your an absolute hero eonite! thanks for this!

Thank you for all the nice comments. I hope that others, besides Gill and Mazak, had a chance to go through the lesson. 

Andrewe-665: Those are nice stacked lenticular clouds. Shouldn`t be too much of a problem to recreate those in Vue.

I just uploaded a render in the gallery here.  Made a double-stacked one :)

Quote - I just uploaded a render in the gallery here.  Made a double-stacked one :)

Hey Gill, that`s a nice surprise! A stacked lenticular cloud :-)

I am curious to know how you were proceeding. Did you add a second cloud layer or did you manage to do it within one layer?

These clouds don't just appear over mountains.

Eonite - I added a 2nd cloud layer and gave teh top one a smaller scale and a few other adjustments and made that layer higher in the altitude than the lower one.  Fiddled around till it sat on the first one.

Bryster - yes, I've seen a few recently hanging over Cannock Chase which is forest and heathland near where we live.  Always annoyed when I don't have my camera with me !!

Bryster: Sure, those clouds may appear elswhere too. And it should not be too hard to build multiple stacked lenticular clouds in Vue as well. The ones in the second picture look like UFOs :-)

Gill: Cool. I have not tried with multiple cloud layers yet.
Basically, as an alternative, you could create another cloud by adding some more nodes to the existing function and making the required connections and settings. This might (or might not) save some render time.

With a quick fiddle I got this if you can see from the little preview window.

When I have more time I'll try other routes

 Hey, you are learning fast :-)

And to think at school I wasn't that interested in maths.   As long as I could do basic calculations I didn't see the point of tangents, sines, cosines etc..........

Mind you, at least when I was at school we did all the caluclations ourselves.  Not an electronic calculator in sight

*Mind you, at least when I was at school we did all the caluclations ourselves.  Not an electronic calculator in sight

• Now you're just showing your age :lol:

I'll bet you were good at maths too!!!! Your spelling is awful.:lol:

My sppelin is perfick just me tiepin that's badd  :lol:

Yeah yeah! It's the fairy's having sex on your keyboard that make the typos.

I've been the slow coach on this one...a couple of not very brilliant days :( I guess I can do it - thought I'll try it as a dress rather than a hat:). However, I cant say I really mastered it.  As usual I like to try 'what happens if' and many of my trials of changing a parameter or two  did not yield the expected results. But I didnt take notes so I cant give examples. Positioning the cloud is actually annoying - it's OK following eonite's instructions, and if the cloud is positioned first and everything else added later. But I wanted to put a second cloud in a completely different location, above the mountain, and it wasnt trivial,a bit  like driving blind. So instead I modeled an object (in hexagon)  with a similar shape and textured it with volumetric material, aligned it with the mountain in the x,y direction with the align tool and moved it up, and that's that. The objective was to   see if its worth the effort doing it in the FE.  A cloud has several more paramters I could play with, like feathering and altitude details, but I'm not sure its worth it. I only played with the object-cloud a very short time, so I'm sure it can be improved. (I dont understad why it has such a crisp edge at the bottom though). So the jury is still out. Thanks eonite for the explanations - quite helpful and a fun exercise. If I get around to it I'll make it into a metanode and then it should be easy to combine several shapes in the FE.

 Quite unusual use of lenticular clouds. Looks funny though :-)

Positioning of the cloud can be annoying, however when you consider the potential benefit it`s worth some additional effort. I mean you can always use Metaclouds instead, but it will be hard to create clouds like the lenticular cloud example.

The best way, if you want to have one single cloud positioned precisely over a mountain is to place the mountain at position 0/0/0 and to leave the offset of the cloud in the FE at X=0 and Y=0 . This way the cloud will be at the same position as the mountain.

Using an imported object and adding some volumetric mat won`t look good because you cannot achieve the kind of smooth edges you would expect from a cloud.

Quote - And to think at school I wasn't that interested in maths.   As long as I could do basic calculations I didn't see the point of tangents, sines, cosines etc..........

I don`t think it requires a lot of knowledge of math to get along with the FE. Some basics are useful though.

I can handle the FE because I spent  a lot of time with it, you know experimenting, figuring out, etc. 

Thank you very much Eonite and everyone that have pushed this topic to a great level - I am currently traveling now with limited access to the net and this forum and will get back in full force once I return from the road- I am now working on lenticular over Fuji and will post once completed to my satisfaction!
I am really glad to see this awesome capability that VUE has to create clouds in this way!
Thank you so much to all and see you again soon!

Looking back, I think mine had a bit too much lumpiness.  They should be smoother than that but next time...... :Smile:

hehehe - I hope you post your finished scene with lenticular over Fuji when it's finished !!

well done gill on getting picture of the day!

What better way to find out than here at Rendo :lol:

Thanks Rich - and of course to Eonite without whose guidance 'Eria' would never have been made

 Congrats, Gill! :-)

Further above you said, those clouds had too much lumpiness. Who cares as long as it serves the composition. To me it looks like a mountain underneath 2 giant cushions. Gives the image a mellow feel. I love it! 
Of course, from what I know about lenticular clouds, they tend to be thinner and less textured.

Anyway, it`s cool the Vue guys have chosen your picture. Well deserved!

Btw. I have seen a couple of movies with lenticular clouds on YouTube. It seems that those are stationary clouds. They are standing still while all other clouds are passing by. Quite remarkable.

hehehe: Youre welcome.  Have seen some nice pictures of Mount Fuji created by you, so Im curious to see the result. In case you have questions, just post them here.

Hi - I've followed the various threads about "clouds", function editor etc. with a great deal of interest. Lenticularly about the particular clouds - sorry - the other way around :) and I've come up with "something" I think. I know that the debate has been about cloud layers, but what if you decide to have free choice and positioning of the clouds. That's why I think the metaclouds may of some use, at least :) I did some experiments this afternoon, took photoreferences (Google) and have come up with this. If you like I'll make the metacloud material available in the freestuff section, maybe the whole scene, so you can tear it apart as desired :)

Tell me what you think.

• Lars "bigbraader"

I'd love to see the metacloud material!

 Surprise! Nice scene and convincing lenticural clouds, bigbraader!

You`re right to try with Metaclouds. Positioning is a lot easier.

Would love to check out the whole scene :-)

Well, I got carried away further experimenting and totally forgot that I've promised you the scene as it looks in the previous post. Now it looks like this (see above), almost surreal now. The mats are the same, I've just played around with the metacloud objects.

I haven't been able to upload etc. before now. Real atmospheric phenomena put a stopper to that, as my internet provider's "gateway" hardware was struck by lightning last night :)

And - "eonite" etc. - don't be mistaken: I'm in deep awe over the mastery you've displayed, I just got inspired, started experimenting, and came up with "something".

The scene will be available as soon it is approved, but you can get it here already:

http://www.morkelstedet.dk/Zipfiler/Lenticular_test_1.zip

• some 6 mb. download

Hope you find it useful

• Lars "bigbraader"

 Thanks, just downloaded the scene and checked it out. Those Metacloud scapes really look kind of surreal...but amazing nonetheless and different from anything we have seen before.
It`s always satisfying to see when a seed begins to germinate... :-)

Thank you!