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Subject: Hope this is the right place to post.....tornado....


SAMS3D ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 3:15 PM · edited Sat, 01 February 2025 at 2:46 AM

 We had one in upstate NY yesterday, it was only a F1 but upstate NY.....weird weather we are having this summer....if you want to call it that.  Sharen


AnnieD ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 3:25 PM

I think we can safely call it weird!  I'm in Missouri and we had hurricane winds in May...straight line and close to 100 mph.  We usually have tornadoes.

 

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 3:35 PM

Oddly here in Texas we haven't had many tornadoes..usually we are swamped with them..we get more per year than Kansas if you can believe that

Wish it would rain over here..been without rain for almost 2 months or more and up to 110 degrees in the shade :sad:

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LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 4:29 PM

It's strangely cool here this year. I don't remember such a cool summer in recent memory...
(Pennsylvania)

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Ravyns ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 4:51 PM

Summers been cool in Ohio too.  And...Don't know if it's just me or not but I think it's been extra windy here.

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MrsLubner ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 4:59 PM

I noticed Cleveland (family still living there) it has been very warm last week but otherwise, the weather has been cool enough. Here, we have been cooler than usual but we also have spurts of blazing hot, over 100 temps. No rain at all for months.

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SAMS3D ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 6:39 PM

 I have been watching the weather in Texas, it has  been brutle on you over there.  I am praying that all the rain we have had, anymore coming will go straight to you.  Sharen


Ravyns ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 6:55 PM

How close were you to that tornado Sharen??

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Sun, 26 July 2009 at 8:50 PM

Ooo def send us rain.....minus the tornadoes of course LOL

Hope that one wasn't too close to you Sharen..I hate those things..even the little ones.

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SAMS3D ( ) posted Mon, 27 July 2009 at 3:30 AM

 We were about 60 miles away from where it hit the ground, we actually only received rain (again), but it is so strange that we had one here.  I heard that the last time we had one in upstate NY was about 40 years ago or longer.  Does not happen here. I think that Sydd and Colm of RDNA might have been closer to it then us.  Sharen


LaurieA ( ) posted Mon, 27 July 2009 at 9:02 AM

When I was a kid I saw one pass by the house about a mile away (PA gets a lot of tornadoes too - I kinda live in PA's tornado alley...lol) and it was a very scary experience. Once was enough for me ;o). I'm glad it was far away from ya Sharen!!

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Mon, 27 July 2009 at 3:34 PM

We're getting alot of wind and black clouds around my place right now..we need several days of steady slow drizzly rain, but I bet we only get a few sprinkles if anything.

Seems like all the storms here of late putter out before it actually gets to us :sad:

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ockham ( ) posted Fri, 31 July 2009 at 3:52 PM

There was a tornado near Spokane a few days ago.  Overall we're getting
the heat that the rest of the country is missing, plus a Midwestern pattern
of thunderstorms.   I keep track of my old stomping grounds in Oklahoma,
and for the last month Spokane has been steadily warmer than Ponca City,
often by 10 degrees.   Normally it's the other way around. 

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Sat, 01 August 2009 at 1:14 AM

Wow, we actually got some rain today down here...not a 'whole' lot..but a bit more than none...we have been without rain here where I am for about 2-3 months now..

Weird weather all over the place eh?

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MikeJ ( ) posted Sun, 02 August 2009 at 4:27 PM · edited Sun, 02 August 2009 at 4:28 PM

Been sweltering away in Florida, like usual.

It is just soooooo unfair - we'll have unseasonably warm winters, but God forbid we can ever get an unseasonably cool summer. ;-)

Seems like we're having more rain this summer than normal though.



Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Tue, 04 August 2009 at 1:03 AM

I hear ya Mike..I just wish once we could get a cooler summer...what makes it really bad is it is sooo humid, and no wind. Blech.

Give me late spring and early fall..that's my kind of weather. :)

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bonestructure ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 10:56 AM

Weather has been hot as hell here in Texas. Fortunately for me, my AC died before the worst started, and they replaced it with a kick ass industrial model that just ignores the heat.

I don't know if the weather is that weird. We had tornados in California for years, but they refused to call them tornados. It's only in the last 10 years or so that the country outside of tornado alley is willing to admit that tornados happen elsewhere. And I suspect that's only because someone caught one on video and they couldn't deny it any more.

I do think the weather will get weird, though. I think we're heading into a very bad period in which earthquakes are going to get real bad, and the Pacific line will spawn a new series of volcanos, possibly in California as well, and perhaps the big one in Yosimite will blow. No, not a Christian and don't think it's end times or anything like that. Just think the planet is making some adjustments.

Here's a foolish thing which isn't as looney as it may sound. Oil is lubricant. Oil is underground. We've sucked all the oil out of the earth. No lubrication. Causes friction, Causes earthquakes I think. I know it sounds silly as hell, but if you check the numbers, earthquakes have increased since we've been drilling for oil. Coincidence?

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Hawkins-GraFX ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 12:08 PM

Bone,

"Here's a foolish thing which isn't as looney as it may sound. Oil is lubricant. Oil is underground. We've sucked all the oil out of the earth. No lubrication. Causes friction, Causes earthquakes I think. I know it sounds silly as hell, but if you check the numbers, earthquakes have increased since we've been drilling for oil. Coincidence?"

I agree with you 100% on this. I feel confident that all the oil drilling in Texas has caused the rash of plate shifts.

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nyguy ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 12:55 PM

Quote -  We had one in upstate NY yesterday, it was only a F1 but upstate NY.....weird weather we are having this summer....if you want to call it that.  Sharen

That tornado was about 3 miles from my Aunt's House and 500 yards from my cousin's work.  The weather hear in Upstate NY  is definitely weirder than normal. The other night it was raining in the front yard but not a drop in the back :lol:

Today the weathermen (all 4 channels here) called for 0% chance of rain while out side during lunch (45 minutes ago) we had a quick rain shower.

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CaptainJack1 ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 1:15 PM

Oil drilling doesn't occur where the lithospheric plates (the ones that move and cause earthquakes) meet. Most of the plate edges are under too much water to make it practical, and there wouldn't be much if any oil to find, because the plates are relatively thin at the edges.

The deepest oil wells we've ever drilled on land go down about 24,000 feet in areas where the plates are about 150 kilometers thick (through the continental crust). Oceanic crust is thinner, but we can't get very deep into the sea floor because of having to go through all the water to get to it.

Since the mid nineteenth century, world wide we've extracted about 125 billion barrels of oil from the ground, with a total mass of about 16.8 billion metric tons. The total mass of the lithosphere is in the neiborhood of 225 quintillion (that is, billion billion) metric tons.

The plates themselves have never had oil lubricating them at the junctures or anywhere else. The plates float on a sea of what is mostly magma, and shift because of currents in the fluid. Oil is found in pockets in the rock, not in the interstices between plates. The plates are a good three billion years old, whereas oil deposits created from the compression of carboniferous life is more like 300-400 million years old at most.

One way to think of it is that drilling for oil has as much to do with plate tectonics and earthquakes as a mosquito bite does with whether a burrito is going to give you heartburn.

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MikeJ ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 3:21 PM

Thank you, Captain Jack.
Everything I ever wanted to know about oil drilling but was afraid to ask. ;-)



Hawkins-GraFX ( ) posted Fri, 07 August 2009 at 4:25 PM

Well - there ya go.
I'm better educated now.  :)


TrekkieGrrrl ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 9:55 PM

 It IS interesting though.. I live in Denmark where there's normally NO eathquakes at all.. Yet we've had a few within the last couple of years - one big enough to actually break smaller things. Still a baby-scale earthquake compared to what may happen elsewhere - but major compared to the usual "none" - and guess what... We've just about exausted our few and puny natural oil reserves..
(yeah we do everything in small scale here...)

The summer has been miserable here btw. Mostly wet and windy. With a few periods of heat and humidity. Not at all a summer like the ones when I was a kid (and that's not just wishful thinkning, that's backed up by meterological data)

So it's not just the US that is affected. Scandinavia is, too. And I don't like it!

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bonestructure ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2009 at 10:37 PM

"and guess what... We've just about exausted our few and puny natural oil reserves.."

See. I stand by my hypothesis.

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MikeJ ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2009 at 5:30 AM · edited Wed, 26 August 2009 at 5:30 AM

Quote -

See. I stand by my hypothesis.

Well, you'd be the only one.
I've seen a zillion tectonic plate-type shows on Discovery, TLC, and so on, plus a whole lot of other geological-based Earth shows. Usually with real brainy type scientists, like guys from MIT and Cambridge and such.  And I've never heard one of them suggest we're drying up the Earth's lube and causing earthquakes.

On the other hand, Nikola Tesla would have been very proud of this new discovery, had he lived to see it. I guess he was barking up the wrong tree, trying to use sympathetic vibrations to make earthquakes, when all he had to do was build the world's biggest oil well.  ;-)

I really do hope you're kidding...



bonestructure ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2009 at 8:07 AM

Actually, no, I'm not. Just because science has yet to discover something, does not mean it doesn't exist. Pulling all the water out of the deep ground is part of it as well.

And I revere Tesla, whose theories were also laughed at. Until they worked.

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