Frankly, I've just about had it with Poser 8. I've been fighting the lockups on render problem for over a month. With help from SM's support, I got rid of that problem by doing a clean uninstall, then reinstalling. Ran tests tonight, render now working - did several renders of Alyson. Great! Now, I'll install V4 Base, ++ Morps, G4, A4, etc. No such luck.

Ran all the V4 installation programs, everything appeared to install. Started Poser, no DAZ People folder - checked P8 runtime folder, nothing! None of the V4 stuff installed. WTF?? I've tried several times, same result. It appears to install, but does not. the V4 software will not allow you to install to a seperate runtime - it HAS to be installed to the Poser directory, which is exactly where it refuses to install.

Before I just chuck the whole $%%^ thing and go back to a pencil and paper, does anyone have any ideas??

A very discouraged Poser beginner......

have you tried creating a txt file named poser.txt and then renaming it to poser.exe in an external runtime to trick the installer ? 

You can install to another runtime, just check DAZStudio instead of poser when the installer asks what program you use. It installs the same files, but doesn't check for the poser exe.

Are you looking in Characters? You said DAZ People, but I think that's what studio calls characters?

-Sarah

Sounds like you're on Vista with UAC enabled? The true location of your main runtime is magical under those conditions. The most common symptom is that if your main runtime is under Program Files, then when you try to install things, Vista doesn't put them in the main runtime. It puts them in some virtual extension of that. What one program does to Program Files (such as an installer), another program cannot see. This is to "protect" you from viruses that install nasty things such as trojans in the various programs you already have.

Your best bet is never install anything new/additional into your main Poser 8 runtime, in that case. Always use external runtimes.

And as others have said, Daz are the boneheads here. There is absolutely no reason you have to install V4 in your main runtime. They think you do, but they also think that transparency maps work right even if you don't plug them into Transparency_Edge. In other words, listen to Poser experts, not Daz experts.

Actually, this machine is running XP - SP3, but what bagginsbill describes sounds a lot like what I'm encountering - the V4 content is being installed somewhere in a parallel universe. I sure can't find it....

I'll monkey around with it a little more tonight (I'm 'supposed' to be working at the moment ;-O). If all else fails, it works fine on my laptop - a little slower, but it works. I'll try a couple of the ideas folks here have suggested and see what happens.

Thanks, everyone!

The idiotic DAZ "Millenium" installer strikes again, I see.
I wonder just how many threads there have to be on this subject before DAZ asks themselves just what they were thinking when they decided on that and change it? 1,000? 10,000? 50,000?

What makes it even stranger is that there is no good reason whatsoever for them to do it that way. None of those DAZ figures "need" to be anywhere near Poser.exe in order to work. You could have them in a runtime on a drive on a network computer halfway across the globe and they'll still work just fine. Might take a while to load though. ;-)

I have all my DAZ stuff on separate physical disk, for all intents and purposes about as isolated from Poser.exe as can be and it all works just fine.

I have nothing to add to the instructions on how to install V4 (or M4 and probably Aiko 4 too), as it's already been explained above, but my advice is once it's all updated  in a runtime somewhere, burn it to a CD and throw away those DAZ installers forever. You will never need them again once it's all successfully unpacked.
And "unpacked" is the correct word for it since their stupid installer is little more than a glorified Zip file.
Why don't they just use a Zip file, you ask?
I guess that's just not high tech enough.....

Plus, Zip files might cause confusion in the Poserverse, unlike the totally flawsless and confusion-proofed installer they created... :blink:

Just a thought, when you run the installers, do you navigate to P8's location, the sequence as I recall is you get asked where you  want to install, the box will show something like "Poser (All Files) yes to that and next select the version/location, if you have run installers before they will remember the last specified place, so you may just be re-installing in your previous Poser Runtime.

:-D
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In other words, 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it?' Sounds like these folks should have a look at Murphy's Laws.....

Thanx for the chuckle - I needed one!

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Why don't they just use a Zip file, you ask?
I guess that's just not high tech enough.....

Plus, Zip files might cause confusion in the Poserverse, unlike the totally flawsless and confusion-proofed installer they created... :blink: