Can someone running Vue Complete 8 on a windows 7 64 or Vista 64 OS with 8 gigs of ram
start a render of the scene fine " Peaking Through" which is on Vue 8 Extras disk>Scenes>Samples3

Before you start rendering,convert it to a 6000 by 4000 scene. Don't make any other changes. Then hit render.

I want to see if you get a " Your memory requirements for this scene exceed you your
current system resources"

You don't need to finish the render, I don't need you to hang your system all day for me.

On my 32 bit 4GB mem system I can only render this at 2500 by 1666 ( this odd number is
3x2 format that I like same as 6000 by 4000

So I'm trying to figure out if upgrading to 64bit and adding 4 more gigs mem will allow me to render this scene at 6000 by 4000.

My mobo maxs at 8 GIG total. Trying to avoid mobo swap for more gigs if possible.

I realize that other scenes will allow more or less size depending on complexity.
But I had to pick something that I would consider average for the sake of this test.

That's just a guess so if you have another scene from the vue 8 extras disk that you think would better represent average complexity. Use that and let me know if your 64 bit windows with 8 gigs can do 6000 by 4000.

I realize there are other variables. But just trying to figure out ( ballpark) if I want to bother with upgrading it. If there might be enough over all increase in render size to justify it.

If you have time let me know if you can go even bigger or if you can't render that big , how close can you get?

Current system
CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
MOBO ASUS P5K Deluxe
1X Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT
MEMORY  4 GB Corsair DDR2 @ 800 MHz
OPERATING SYSTEM VISTA ULTIMATE 32

After planned upgrades
SAME CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
SAME MOBO ASUS P5K Deluxe
SAME 1X Nvidia Geforce 8800 GT

NEW MEMORY ( 4 more gigs) 8 GB total Corsair DDR2 @ 800 MHz
NEW OPERATING SYSTEM Windows 7 64 or Vista ultimate 64

Thanks for any help.

Hello,

I'm very interested in doing gigantic renders with Vue also.  I'm happy to try your scene but I only have the PLE version so you'd have to send it to me.  I was hoping to verify that I can do a gigantic render before I buy it :)...  I have Windows7ultimate w/12G RAM.

It seems to me that the most logical way to accomplish this is to render in tiles - that way, you conceivably could render an arbitrarily large image on any system.  AFAIK, the region/blowup function could be used for that purpose, however, it appears there are several problems that prevent this approach.

Not at all sure but... what I (think) I have observed is 1. Vue appears to allocate memory resources based on the total image size - not on the region size.  2. The region/blowup dialog does not seem to work above a particular number, i.e, if you spec 16000, 16000 then set a region to 8000, 8000 - the numbers don't stick.  The viewport shows some arbitrary area after I enter the values (10655, 8000).  Since there is no viewport snap (AFAIK), there is no way to precisely define subregions to divide up a large render.

It would be very cool to be able to render huge, if Eon is paying attention, this is a feature request.  Support tile rendering and accurately report resource usage prior to starting a render.

to jester
I instant messaged you
thanks

to every one else
I still need someone with 8 gigs to help.

Thanks
Frank

Oooo... nice.  I just tried a 16k x 16k render of a single piece of terrain.  It's working fine.  No resource warnings.  Also... it's very fast.  Rendering to screen is almost done - less than a minute on a Win7ultimate machine w/12G RAM, CoreI7 920 2.7Ghz.

Check that... it was in preview mode, and it's still not done post-processing.

Set render options to "final" and I'm getting the resource warning...

Quote - to jester
I instant messaged you
thanks

to every one else
I still need someone with 8 gigs to help.

Thanks
Frank

Re: 21_Peaking Through.vue

Set render size to 6000x4000, final quality.  Started render.  No warnings w/12G RAM (rendering away - est. time=29h20').

After ~5min; est. time is showing 5h29'.

Task mngr is showing ~10G RAM free... (that sounds wrong, but that's what it shows).

thanks for the info

hopefully someone with 8 gigs will chime in

Hi,

I am using Vue 7 Complete, getting 8 in next couple of months, don't know if it helps or not, but changed the image to your resolution and started rendering. Started render with no issues.

I have a Q6600 with 8GB DDR2 ram

Jon

hi Jon
that's probably good news for me unless drastic change in the way version 8 handles stuff. are you using win 7 64 or vista 64?

Hi, I am using Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit

Jon

Quote - Can someone running Vue Complete 8 on a windows 7 64 or Vista 64 OS with 8 gigs of ram
start a render of the scene fine " Peaking Through" which is on Vue 8 Extras disk>Scenes>Samples3

Before you start rendering,convert it to a 6000 by 4000 scene. Don't make any other changes. Then hit render.

I have a suitable machine, but how do I convert the size of a scene?
I know I can change the render size in the render settings, but this doesn't change the original scene.
What do you mean exactly?

Hi Crowing I just meant change render size in the render size settings to 6000 x4000 so that the rendered file would wind up being that size.

Hope hat helps
Thanks

Quote - Hi Crowing I just meant change render size in the render size settings to 6000 x4000 so that the rendered file would wind up being that size.

Hope hat helps
Thanks

Did that without any problems. Settings were 6000x4000, 'Render to Screen', 'Preview quality'.
Vue 8, Windows 7 64 bit, 8 GB RAM.
If you want I can test higher quality settings later today.

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Did that without any problems. Settings were 6000x4000, 'Render to Screen', 'Preview quality'.
Vue 8, Windows 7 64 bit, 8 GB RAM.
If you want I can test higher quality settings later today.

Yes can you try that at the ultra setting.

That's good to know, sounds like my current Mobo can live a while longer:)

Also can you double those settings to 12000X8000 and still be problem free?

I ordered the extra ram last night.

Now I just have to get the 64 bit OS and figure out if I want to do dual boot from a separate drive.
My main drive is so full of apps that I can't really do a partition.

Or maybe do a start fresh saying bye bye to any software that can't be used in 64Bit by going 64 bit only.

I'm not sure how much of my software will work in 64bit. I'm thinking I might have to access the 32bit OS to be able to run some things.

I have the Adobe Web Design Suite CS3 and many many useful plugins that I have used for years, some of he plugins go way back, like KPT 5  Shape shifter that I'm just not sure if they will work in 64 bit or not.

Windows 7 64 bit
Core Quad Q9300
only 4 GB RAM
Geforce 8800 GT

Vue 8 complete, resolution 6000x4500,  render runs OK (veery slowly, but it works). However, when I hit render button, Vue8.eon process took 1,4 GB of memory, now after 2% it is on 3,1GB and still grows, so it is possible that it will crash in a few minutes (or hours).

As far as I know, in 32 bit system any process can use max 2 GB of RAM, so if you switch to 64 bit, I´m sure it helps. Amount of RAM is not main problem IMHO.

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Yes can you try that at the ultra setting.

That's good to know, sounds like my current Mobo can live a while longer:)

Also can you double those settings to 12000X8000 and still be problem free?

When I use your 3:2 aspect ratio the largest image I can render locally without a warning is 7700x5133 pixels.

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Yes can you try that at the ultra setting.

That's good to know, sounds like my current Mobo can live a while longer:)

Also can you double those settings to 12000X8000 and still be problem free?

When I use your 3:2 aspect ratio the largest image I can render locally without a warning is 7700x5133 pixels. At ultra setting!

Great that sounds like real good news, thanks for the effort.

Don't be to afraid of a 64bit OS ...

On my Win7 64 i got a lot of apps, games whatever installed - just about everything runs fine in the 64bit OS - running everything before on Vista 64 since january 2007, too (upgraded my running Vista with Win7).

If something didn't work no more, than it was mainly old,old programs, that i've never used anymore since years, just noticed it by testing different stuff.

OK
I have my 64bit win 7 Pro OS with 8 Gigs Ram up and running as a part of my dual boot system.
I hit render in ultra at 6000 x 4000 , works fine. I was able to do a 9000 x 6000 with that scene.

Says 300 plus hours to complete so I did not let it finish. But at least I know that will work for me If I want print big and clear.

My current ASUS P5K Deluxe Mobo is showing it's age already by maxing out at 8 Gigs Ram

Win 7 pro 64 can handle 192GIGS RAM, Might be a while before Most Mobos can catch up with that.

Next system upgrade will be when a Single 8 core( not 2 quads) Processor is more common and much less expensive, then I'll get a new MOBO that can handle that as well as much more Gigs of Ram.

Oh and of course Vue 9, Lord Willing and the creek don't rise.

Thanks for the help.