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Subject: What is the best size for a graphics tablet?


lululee ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 1:46 PM · edited Thu, 07 November 2024 at 4:02 PM

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Hi, Santa was good to me and I have decided to buy a graphics tablet. Can you give me any advice on which or tablet is the best to purchase.

I am looking at

Adesso CyberTablet M14 Graphics Tablet, 12" x 7.25",

or
Adesso 10" x 6" Widescreen Ultra Slim Graphics Tablet
Any advice is appreciated.


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 1:52 PM · edited Mon, 28 December 2009 at 1:54 PM

If you're planning on holding it in your lap, those sizes are OK.  If you plan on sitting it on your desk next to your keyboard, both are too large (imo).  I have a 9x6 Wacom Intuos3 and to be honest it's quite a bit too large.

edit: count on the bundled mouse being a piece of garbage.  Don't expect to be able to junk your regular mouse and be happy.

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lululee ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 2:01 PM

Thanks pjz,
For working in ZBrush and Max  do you  feel a 6 x 4 would be better?
I do plan on getting a better mouse.
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lululee


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 2:18 PM

Are you going to hold it in your lap, or are you going to rest it on the desk next to the keyboard?  The drawing area for my Wacom is 9x6, but the whole thing is more like 15 inches wide, it's almost as wide as the keyboard itself.

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lululee ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 2:27 PM

it is new to me to use a tablet. I believe I would prefer to have it next to the keyboard.
It is difficult to know which one will work the best.
i appreciate your input.
cheerio
lululee


FrankT ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 2:54 PM

Mine is the A6 version which has a 6x4" active area and sits next to me on the desk (doubles as a mousemat when I'm not using the pen as well)

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pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 3:04 PM

6x4 would have been a better choice for me too, I use mine on the desk.

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Magic_Man ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 3:53 PM

Was fancying a tablet myself so this is good feedback. The Intuos 3 seem very good with excellent pressure levels, sensitivity etc.

What's the workflow like using a tablet in Poser...?


pjz99 ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 4:06 PM · edited Mon, 28 December 2009 at 4:07 PM

I can't get any use out of the tablet for any kind of general 3D app.  Works well with 3D painting in Zbrush and Bodypaint, and 2D in Photoshop, but for camera and other tool control in Poser or Cinema it's a lot easier to work with the mouse.

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dlfurman ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 4:11 PM

Hmm. I have a WACOM Graphire 3 (4x5) and it's just dandy!

I use the mouse for everything, except painting and such.

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RobynsVeil ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 5:33 PM

I have the Wacom Bamboo  (4x5) ... it uses a reasonable amount of desk real estate and I've even got it to work in the GIMP, bit of fiddling there, though. I don't use it in Poser at all.

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FrankT ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 5:59 PM

Quote - Was fancying a tablet myself so this is good feedback. The Intuos 3 seem very good with excellent pressure levels, sensitivity etc.

What's the workflow like using a tablet in Poser...?

I wouldn't use a tablet in Poser.  I stick to the mouse.  For photoshop or ZBrush it's pretty much a requirement to use the tablet (specially in ZBrush)

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Nosiferret ( ) posted Mon, 28 December 2009 at 6:32 PM

I have a small Wacom Graphire, my first tablet. I read somewhere to go small and see how you like it, how you use it, how often you use it. This way you're not out of a lot of $$ when you discover the smallest is perfect for what you need. I've had my Graphire for 3 years now, maybe  a little more. I'm just now thinking about upgrading to a slightly bigger one. Since getting Vista, it's doing weird things such as working in close up mode, the thing constantly wants to bring up the brush size menu. I didn't have a single problem with it in XP.

Right about the mouse. Mine came with one and I never used it.

As Pjz99 stated, look at your desk and see how you would use it, how much space you have. One thing to keep in mind too, do you have children and animals like cats. Slightest scratch on the cover can really mess things up. So you'll want to keep in a safe place for it when not in use, which could also factor in what size you want to get :) 


wcbncal ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 12:04 AM

I have 2 WACOM tablets (PTZ3).  A 4x5, and a 6x11.  I got the larger tablet to complement the 22" monitor I use with Windows 7 (just updated from Windows Vista). 
The 4x5 worked well with a 17" (square) monitor, but was too sensitive for the larger monitor.

I seldom use a mouse!  Tablets are absolute position, and pressure sensitive.  Mice are relative positioners, and too often "off scale".  So, the pen is faster than the mouse.

What I found is that the hand-eye coordination thing is important.  You should select a tablet that has a similar aspect ratio to your monitor.  The largest tablet that you can accommodate in your work space (and afford)  is recommended.  Small tablets with large monitors tend to be very sensitive!  And, yes the mouse does not work well.

You should be aware there is a "learning curve" to use the pen (just as when you learned to write or draw).

Also note DAZ Studio3 has big time problems with graphics tablets (I submitted a bug report).
All other programs I use work well.  The Adobe applications have the most extensive support for pressure sensitivity.

Note, the WACOM PTZ3 tablets have been discontinued, and replaced by the new PTZ4 series.

I use a PS2 keyboard, and mouse because the BIOS in my system does not support USB.  Without BIOS USB support I can not interact with the BIOS or recovery console when things go wrong.  Or interact with "offline" diagnostic or repair tools.


ghonma ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 7:01 AM

If you like to draw/paint mainly with your wrist with small precise strokes (this is also usually the case with sculpting, texturing, modelling etc) get a small or medium size. 6x9 or similar is usually good enough.

If you draw/paint mainly from your elbow with large expressive strokes, get the largest size you can afford. A small one will only make your hand feel cramped.

Don't buy any other brand but Wacom. Other brands are cheaper but tend to fall apart after 6 months. Wacoms are practically indestructible.


spod ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 3:29 PM

I got the Wacom Intuos 4 (small) about six weeks ago.  My incentive was the handwriting support in Windows(XP forward).  My idea was to use it to replace both the keyboard and the mouse in everything.  (After twenty five years of working with computers, this lurch from familiar methods was irrational, not considered.)  I was incredibly lucky.  I have uninstalled my mouse, and stood the keyboard against the wall behind my desk. 

Caveats:

1.  Take the learning curve advice folks have mentioned seriously.  You need to train your reflexes to a new landscape.  But it is worth it.

  1. Train the Windows input programs to your handwriting style.  It really works. 
    3.  Poser, my only graphics toy, was the hardest program to get used to.  There is a 'latency' of a fraction of a second in touching elements or dials, and I think the 'pressure sensitivity' technology affects the results here (It is useless in Poser, but is inherent in the technology.)  However, with practice you get used to the 'feedback' and it works perfectly on dials and the work area. 
    4.  The camera problem mentioned by the other folks is real, but is, I think, part of the learning curve involved in adjusting to the touch sensitivity of the technology.  It was for me.
    5.  I wrote this on the Wacom.


wcbncal ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 4:41 PM

Nosiferret-

Quote - ... Since getting Vista, it's doing weird things such as working in close up mode, the thing constantly wants to bring up the brush size menu. I didn't have a single problem with it in XP.

Have you updated the WACOM driver?

http://www.wacom.com/downloads/drivers.php

I have had no problem with either Windows Vista (32 bit) or Windows 7 (64 bit).


SamTherapy ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 6:03 PM

I find the best size is one which fits easily in the trash when you discover you hate the damn things. :biggrin: 

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bopperthijs ( ) posted Wed, 30 December 2009 at 7:09 PM

I have a Wacom bamboo tablet, and I still find it difficult to find the right direction with a pen, if I could afford I would buy a Wacom cintiq tablet/monitor, which allows you to draw directly on the screen, but at the moment it's too expensive for me (over €2000,-)

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