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erosiaart ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 2:02 AM · edited Sat, 02 November 2024 at 9:38 AM

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AgentSmith ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 2:09 AM

"Place newspaper over head".....omg.

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AnnieD ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 3:21 AM

good grief..   :scared:

 

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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 4:31 AM

 hahaha hey, at least you'll use your newspaper for something right?

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TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 7:18 AM
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Just as bad as the advice in the UK. "Hide beneath a mattress."

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Skygirl ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:33 AM

This is just a joke...isn´t it ?!?....Please....


bobbystahr ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:41 AM

We had get under you desk in elementary [kindergarten -Gr6]...tells ya how long ago the 'ColdWar' was.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


erosiaart ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:46 AM

Attached Link: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/01/awesomemorbid_cold_war_era_civil_de.html

skygirl, there is a discussion here as to whether it was real or fake.. there were handouts made during the coldwar. the mayor's seal it seems is real...


pakled ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:53 AM

'duck and cover' was a thing at school (ended just before I started) where you hid under your desk...;)

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TheBryster ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 10:19 AM
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In the event of a nuclear attack:

#1 Stand in a doorway
#2 Place head between knees
#3 Kiss your ass goodbye.

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tjohn ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 10:21 AM

Oh that is very real. I started school in '59 and we had drills where we would sit against interrior cement block walls in prepration for nuckear attack. The "Duck and Cover" was made into an actual film by Civil Defence and shown in schools and on TV as a PSA. You can probably find it on You Tube,

The best way to survive a nuclear blast is get into a refridgerator. This may only work if you're Indiana Jones.
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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 10:56 AM

ohh the days when the government could shamelessly let the public commit bullshit just so they would feel safer...
I wonder which things we'll laugh at another 50 years into the future :-P

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tom271 ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 11:21 AM · edited Mon, 25 January 2010 at 11:23 AM

I remember duck and cover in school......   It gave a feeling of security, that's all....

-we were asked to ducked and covered in the cold war.. and so we did...
-we were asked to placed duck tape on our windows in the terror war..  and so we did...
-now we have to cover our nuts in front of an x-ray machine at the airport. and so we do..

when are they going to ask us to roll over and play dead.....  :)  and where is my biscut..?



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Rayraz ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 11:36 AM

Quote - and where is my biscut..?

They ate it! But dont worry, sooner or later a terrorist will get blamed.

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AnnieD ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 1:49 PM

Quote - I when are they going to ask us to roll over and play dead.....  :) 

that one is reserved for politicians....its mandatory if you want the job. 
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electroglyph ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 5:36 PM

The heat flash is like standing next to a welder. It really can be stopped by something as thin as a newspaper. If you could manage to put one up seconds before you saw the flash It would help.
The 300mph wind filled that follows a few seconds later with bits of trees and bricks will not be stopped by the newspaper.


scanmead ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 5:43 PM

You know, even as a 6th grader, I had to question the efficacy of hiding under a desk next to an entire wall of windows that faced the air base. And they were the desks with the attached chair, and no sides, at that!

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Quest ( ) posted Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:47 PM · edited Mon, 25 January 2010 at 9:48 PM

Not to mention that those tables were made of wood...perfect kindling (makes one wonder if they had your best interest at heart). The best you can ask for is to have it drop right into your rear pant pocket. That way you don’t have to worry about kissing your ass goodbye. ;-)


UVDan ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 7:24 AM
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The good old days.  I can remember rummaging through the base dump in Montana and finding minuteman missile parts.  On Okinawa some friends and I found an x-ray tube at the base dump and made a home made x-ray machine.  We used lithography film to x-ray dead animals.

For years and years we had used a rocket motor storage cannister from the 60's made of fiberboard to hold our winter blankets for storage.  A year ago we decided we do not need winter blankets in Arizona so the cannister  just sat around.  I decided to kick it to the curb with a free sign on it.  I forgot there was a big EXPLOSIVES sign on the side of it.  A little while later, I heard a helicopter circling overhead and went out to see what the excitement was and there were three police vehicles in front of the house.  I calmed everyone down and took the lid off to show it was empty just as somebody in a van drove up to claim it and take it away.

That cold war stuff gets me all bubbly with nostalgia.

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 10:03 AM

LOL...that musta been quite the scene Dan...too bad y never got it on film...coulda been a modern sorta keystone cops kinda thing.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


TheBryster ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 10:07 AM
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Actually Dan, you terrify me. Have you been scanned with a gieger-counter lately?

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UVDan ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 11:24 AM
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Rayraz ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 11:26 AM

 Ah i see, you're only in the yellow :-P coulda been worse hehe

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silverblade33 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 11:26 AM · edited Tue, 26 January 2010 at 11:29 AM

Clock factory where Dad worked used radium then phosphorous to make the dials glow...
when they demolished the factory, the walls were GLOWING, only one person who worked in the radiation section lived to be over 56....they had to get the international atomic energy agency to over see its safe removal.

idiots lied about the threat of nuclear war, Reagan copped out of going to his nuclear briefings while hawk psychos WANTED a first strike on Russia, jeesh. when he did go he was given the stark assessment that the projected minimum likely US death toll would be 110 million.
he pooped his pants, as any sane perosn would and started a dislaogue and stopped the "Evil Empire" bullshit against the Russians (for which the psychos in his party never forgave him)
See the "Able Archer" event on wiki, we almost all got nuked cause of American hotheads, ick
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Able_Archer_83

AMericans had a false sense of security in that their nation had never been slaughtered (well, apart from the Natives) so didn't have social grasp of what total war really meant (GI's dying is not the same as seeing your cities raised like Europe and others did, as a cultural horror), plus the illusion of a large landmass providing safety from harm.

the reality was different.  the Russians SS18 ICBM could fire ten warheads with 750kilotons EACH, or a 20 megaton bomb.
Russia has 8500 warheads ready, and 11,000 in storage in the 80s.
The incredible damage, firestorms and fallout means you don't need many warheads to waste an entire US state, especially if it goes "total war" and they decide to hit cities, civilian nuclear reactors etc

modern cities have about 5 times as much fuel sources for fire as those in 1940s, we're richer, more plastics etc, so firestorms form nuke attacks would be immense. Imagine the entire Chicago, LA, New York areas as hurricanes of fire.

the we have Nuclear Winter....anyone who says that's not poossible really does need their head examined. thousands of firestorms would cause perpetual twilight, just like immense voclanic eruptions do (flood basalts)

Human Beings are not fit to have such weapons.

 

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UVDan ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 1:40 PM · edited Tue, 26 January 2010 at 1:42 PM
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Hey silverblade33.  People here in the states like to give Reagan credit for bringing down the Soviet Union.  He actually did nothing of the kind in spite of his speech where he implored Gorby to bring down the wall.  The Soviet Union would have went bankrupt even without Reagan as president.  It was bound to happen eventually.

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silverblade33 ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 7:02 PM

The SDI crap though made it worse, and instead of the USSR folding "naturally" it imploded, so now we have the KGB in charge there, to no one's benefit
Hard to believe Russian Nazis, actual Nazis are on the increase, as the state has gone fascist loony :(
Cold War was not a just war of democracy/freedom versus Socialism/Repression, was just another big male member waggling fight over who'd get to run things and both sides commited terrible and dumb acts. The West on balance was better, but lost that moral authority when it got up to vile, stupid stuff like Operation Ajax etc.

I can only dream of what might have happend if Lenin hadn't got power and Stalin had got ganked, if more moderates had taken power...rather imagine a moderate Socialist Russia than leaving the Czar and Western industrialists in charge, or Stalin, ick.
there was a proto-Russian democracy movement before the Revolution, but contrary to what folk think, many populaces simply don't get what Democracy REALLY means, and requires, so they lacked support, where as the ordinary Russian could see the Bolshiveks point, and UK/USA supported the Czar to keep money/power and invaded Russia, which of ocurse soured later relations
http://www.historywiz.com/invasionrussia.htm

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scanmead ( ) posted Tue, 26 January 2010 at 11:06 PM

Funny, I look back on the Reagan years with fond nostalgia. There was something comforting about having a president who was only vaguely aware of what was going on, but could read his lines like a pro... erm... like the professional actor he was. That whole period was a step back into a fantasy land reminiscent of the late '50's, early 60's. If we pretended hard enough, everything was peachy keen.

hmm... maybe if we pass out t-shirts that say "I reject your reality" to Wall Street, stocks will go up?

I will say Reagan is  one of the few presidents I still quote. Evil Empire is a favorite term, although I've never used it to reference the Soviet Union.


Rayraz ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 3:58 AM

 @silverblade33:

 - Whats SDI?
 - What's operation ajax?

I dont think we learned those things in school here..

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erosiaart ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 4:29 AM

SDI.. can't remember the exact meaning..but was supposed to have been an invisible umbrella over the US to protect it from any sort of nuclear attack. I remember Times mag and other mags and ads showing pictures that kids drew of it.. rainbows over the US, with rain falling, but naught falling onto the US. The rays were supposed to get bounced back and either sent up into space.. (Chris..Mars!!! Watch out!).. or back to Russia.. where of course, that was where it was supposed to have started from.
Huge hue and cry over it.
Wonder where all that has gone to? All that gazillions of dollars spent on research would have nipped the recession in the bud.
DAN!! Lol..using  silverblade's experience.. .. are you glowing??? :b_funny:


Rayraz ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 4:35 AM

hmm.. you mean they were actually trying to build a sort of sci-fi like shield? and they actually spent money on that?? damn... 

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erosiaart ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 4:42 AM

Attached Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative

yup..they were.. do a google on it. I've added wiki's link. Times had done a cover story.. and I bet youtube has some stuff on it..


Rayraz ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 4:47 AM

 ah thanx for the link!

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TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 10:47 AM
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SDI as I recall was simply a method of using laser technology to hit income soviet missiles before they detonated over US landmass. It was nicknamed the 'StarWars' Defense Initiative. The thing is the US didn't have lasers powerful enough to do the job so they started researching it/delveloping it. Apparently, this was enough ot make the Soviets shit themselves and more or less wave a white flag, even though they threatened to start WW3 to prevent the US technology - which the Soviets could never afford - getting off the ground.

In fact, it was the threat of nuclear winter that made both sides realise that MAD was a real possibility and that every living thing on the planet would die.

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bobbystahr ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 10:48 AM

the star wars shield...it's still up there IIRC, they just don't talk about it anymore.. ...

 

Once in a while I look around,
I see a sound
and try to write it down
Sometimes they come out very soft
Tinkling light sound
The Sun comes up again



 

 

 

 

 


UVDan ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 12:39 PM · edited Wed, 27 January 2010 at 12:46 PM
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SDI stood for Strategic Defense Initiative.  Popularly called "Star Wars".  It was supposed to consist of conventional anti-missile defenses on the ground and space based laser weapons that would shoot missiles down from orbital weapons platforms.  The research has continued in the airborne laser research currently being done by the Air Force and Boeing where a high powered chemical laser is employed on an aircraft to shoot at enemy missiles and satellites.

Silverblade33 the US expeditionary force in support of the Czar is not documented in the public education here, but astute students of military history will eventually stumble upon it.

Rosy the only thing glowing is my third eye.  Sorry I duplicated your link.  I did not notice it at first.

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erosiaart ( ) posted Wed, 27 January 2010 at 9:44 PM

UVDan.. failure of third eye? LOL! not a probs.


Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 28 January 2010 at 3:32 AM

 Didnt they do some research after the 3rd eye too? :-P

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electroglyph ( ) posted Thu, 28 January 2010 at 5:47 PM

The recent movie Men Who Stare At Goats was based on stories about the army experiments to create psychic soldiers. I guess they did research on the third eye too. They probably really checked to see if eating Menthos and Diet Coke could kill you as well.


Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 28 January 2010 at 6:09 PM

 haha yea i know they did experiments on  "remote viewing" or such.. rumours of some amazing success stories surface about that every now and then. I even saw a documentary about it on discovery channel once.

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