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Subject: About Idol for A3 by Yomato


lior ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 4:03 PM · edited Sat, 11 January 2025 at 7:44 AM

Attached Link: http://forum.daz3d.com/postimages/origimage_1_162272.jpg

Hi,

Speaking of Idol for A3 at forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php but their topic was in 2004 and most of the links don't work any more.
Has some one the new download link of this item Idol for A3?
Was this item updated from A3 to A4?


R_Hatch ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 4:48 PM · edited Sat, 05 June 2010 at 4:49 PM

Attached Link: Web Archive copy of DigitalBabes2.com Costume Festival page

See attached link :-) It doesn't look like it has been updated for Aiko 4, so you'll have to get your hands dirty with some Poser magnets.


lior ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 5:01 PM

Thank you very, very much for this link 😄


lior ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 5:16 PM

Would some one of the market place be allowed to realise an update to V4? Do the TOS allow this?


hborre ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 6:07 PM
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You would have to contact the original vendor for permission to update and distribute.  If your intent is personal use, then you could use a conversion program to update to V4.


lior ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 6:30 PM

Quote - You would have to contact the original vendor for permission to update and distribute.  If your intent is personal use, then you could use a conversion program to update to V4.

Isn't it possible to update do A4?
What is this program?


kobaltkween ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 8:39 PM

first of all, i don't think any of that content allows commercial use at all, let alone selling an edited copy.  second of all, what you'd need to do is change both the shape and the rigging.  there are several programs that either do this automatically, or help with it.  if you want someone else to do that, they would have to get the rights to do it and give it to you.  most people who can would rather just make their own clothes.  if you want to do it yourself you can use either Wardrobe Wizard (which comes with Poser 8), CrossDresser by EvilInnocence, or OBJ2CR2 by PhilC, and some form of morph tool (like the one in Poser 7 and up).  there are probably some other solutions, but those are the most common.



hborre ( ) posted Sat, 05 June 2010 at 8:56 PM
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In agreement with you, kobaltkween.  At the moment, those apps you mentioned are about the best that exists.


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 1:17 AM

Quote - first of all, i don't think any of that content allows commercial use at all, let alone selling an edited copy.  second of all, what you'd need to do is change both the shape and the rigging.  there are several programs that either do this automatically, or help with it.  if you want someone else to do that, they would have to get the rights to do it and give it to you.  most people who can would rather just make their own clothes.  if you want to do it yourself you can use either Wardrobe Wizard (which comes with Poser 8), CrossDresser by EvilInnocence, or OBJ2CR2 by PhilC, and some form of morph tool (like the one in Poser 7 and up).  there are probably some other solutions, but those are the most common.

I'd be using Blender to make those items fit, and then import into Poser with Obj2Cr2... I'm imagining for personal use, the original mesh maker wouldn't have any issues. And that's the beauty of being able to have access to programmes like Blender: you can make pretty much anything you want work for Poser.

I even take garments designed for a figure into Blender to fix issues with the mesh.

I'm so grateful to the developers of Blender for providing such a powerful programme (for free, no less!) and to PhilC for making it easy to bring clothing into Poser in conforming format.

Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2

Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehen
[it is clear that humans have contempt for that which they do not understand] 

Metaphor of Chooks


lior ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 2:33 AM

Quote - > Quote - first of all, i don't think any of that content allows commercial use at all, let alone selling an edited copy.  second of all, what you'd need to do is change both the shape and the rigging.  there are several programs that either do this automatically, or help with it.  if you want someone else to do that, they would have to get the rights to do it and give it to you.  most people who can would rather just make their own clothes.  if you want to do it yourself you can use either Wardrobe Wizard (which comes with Poser 8), CrossDresser by EvilInnocence, or OBJ2CR2 by PhilC, and some form of morph tool (like the one in Poser 7 and up).  there are probably some other solutions, but those are the most common.

I'd be using Blender to make those items fit, and then import into Poser with Obj2Cr2... I'm imagining for personal use, the original mesh maker wouldn't have any issues. And that's the beauty of being able to have access to programmes like Blender: you can make pretty much anything you want work for Poser.

I even take garments designed for a figure into Blender to fix issues with the mesh.

I'm so grateful to the developers of Blender for providing such a powerful programme (for free, no less!) and to PhilC for making it easy to bring clothing into Poser in conforming format.

But not every one knows how to use Blender, I read your tutorial www.renderosity.com/mod/tutorial/index.php and I was completly lost 'cause of Blender.
CrossDresser by EvilInnocence seems to be easier.

PS
When I saw a wonderful item but for V4 and I asked the designer why not this same item for A4?This designer said he works only with Vicky.Suppose this designer sees his own item, in Poser gallery , on Aiko???


RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 4:44 AM

Quote -
This designer said he works only with Vicky.Suppose this designer sees his own item, in Poser gallery , on Aiko???

I'm going to assume Aiko4 / Victoria4. If you have a look on the marketplace, you'll notice that a lot of clothing offers A4 morphs for V4 items and vice-versa. If the designer says it's for V4 only and you show it in your gallery on a A4-based figure, he'd congratulate you on successfully using Morphing Clothes. :biggrin:

Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2

Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehen
[it is clear that humans have contempt for that which they do not understand] 

Metaphor of Chooks


kobaltkween ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 4:50 AM

it's always easier to choose an automated solution.  the downside is that the automated solution doesn't always work.  if CrossDresser works for you, that's absolutely great.  if it doesn't, heavier duty tools are necessary.

as for your question, my guess is that the creator won't change their mind.  the problem isn't making something that works for one person in one particular scene.  it's making something that works in general and doesn't take more time and/or money than it's worth it to make.  most merchants know all about the different tools to fit morphs.  the problem, in my experience, is that most people don't dial body morphs much, and those that do tend to choose popular characters.   not too many really dial a lot of morphs.

super-conforming is really based on a bug that should be fixed.  and every morph makes clothing more resource intensive.  simple clothes with lots of morphs will be just as heavy (if not more) as something incredibly detailed but with a limited number of morphs.  then consider that most clothes are conforming, so quality clothes need a whole lot of morphs to duplicate what actual dynamics do. 

so it's all a balance of usability, audience, and resources.  if a merchant has already decided that it's not worth it to support a particular FBM, one customer's modifications probably won't change their mind.  if anything, they could probably say it's easy enough for customers to do the fit themselves and point to the render. 



RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 5:10 AM

About the only morph I ever really need for clothing is shoulder up/down. The rest I can usually insert myself with Morph Clothes... and that way, I can really tailor the item to truly fit my own morphed characters really well.

Monterey/Mint21.x/Win10 - Blender3.x - PP11.3(cm) - Musescore3.6.2

Wir sind gewohnt, daß die Menschen verhöhnen was sie nicht verstehen
[it is clear that humans have contempt for that which they do not understand] 

Metaphor of Chooks


lior ( ) posted Sun, 06 June 2010 at 5:26 AM · edited Sun, 06 June 2010 at 5:27 AM

Not every one knows to modify an item for ajusting it on the characters he's working with.

All the best Poser renders I saw  were made by designers!!!


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