also wanted to add that, in DSM-V, they may distinguish between obsessive-compulsive, which
may not be associated with pleasurable actions, and addiction, which may be associated with
pleasurable actions.  we'll hafta wait 'til 2012 to find out, barring unforeseen circumstances.

With the dozens of posts dp's made about Posette, there's not much question that he's got an addictive personality. I can't even guess what got him annoyed enough over this post that he feels he should try to be disruptive and mildly insulting. It's not as if I ever felt it necessary to complain about his many Posette posts. Frankly, that figure is last decade's model. There are many better female models available today that lack widespread support. Some morphs and modern textures help make Posette a better figure, but it still has a lot of limitations compared to more recent figures.

This post came about as a result of discussions in a board game forum whether collectible card games, such as Magic the Gathering, are addictive. I didn't think so and, in the process of talking about the game, it got me thinking about addictions and gaming. One thing I realized is that so many people hated collectible games, with Magic in particular, is that they had once spent tons of money to build fast killer decks that essentially broke how the game ought to be played and stopped making it fun for them. Magic's a great little game that plays out in under half an hour. It was the first card game sold in the same format as baseball cards--minus the gum. The cards come in different levels of rarity such that a pack of 15 cards might have 1 rare card, 3 uncommon, and the rest common. People thought this was being done to hook them on the game to buy more and more packs to get all the rares, but it was really part of the game design to keep the most powerful cards in limited quantities in decks players put together to play the game. It's not much different than chess having a bunch of low powered pawns, some middle power pieces, and a single rare all-powerful queen. People were buying boxes of booster packs for $90 to build decks with all rare cards. That's like playing chess with all queens. It takes the balance away from how the games should be played.

Ten years ago, I'd spent hundreds of dollars buying boxes of Magic cards and stopped when people I played the game with lost interest in it. I could see how I did go overboard on the game, on Poser, and other hobbies. I wondered if other creative people have similar tendencies. I saw them in myself and a few other artists I knew. I still wanted to open it up to a larger audience of creative people to get a better sampling of opinions.

Overall, the majority of people responding to this post consider themselves as having somewhat addictive personalities--though not enough that there is a real addiction. That was something that I wasn't entirely sure about before asking the question. A few people didn't think they had addictive personalities. If I've learned anything in life, it's that everybody is different.

Anything that has a steep learning curve is only going to be mastered by somebody willing to invest the time to learn it. People with creative energies will make the effort to do that. If a little obsessiveness helps get that done, that's not a bad thing.

Because I'm a disruptive and annoying person!  Just ask my wife!
dph

Quote - For me the answer is yes. I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I didn't have the internet.

I'd have to say I'm in your boat! I'm very addicted to the social interactions of forum life. I don't get out much these days.

There's times I wonder how we ever filled up our days without the internet.

It's why I cannot overly blame young people at work for not knowing classic movie comics such as the Marx Brothers and Laurel & Hardy. The half dozen TV stations I grew up with could only broadcast older movies, so they filled much of their schedules with films that were decades old. First run movies didn't go to TV until years after they were in theaters and, if you didn't watch it when it was broadcast, it might be years till it was available again. A child can grow up today without ever seeing a black & white movie.

Quote - A child can grow up today without ever seeing a black & white movie.

Sad isn't it?

 Didn't Ted Turner colorize them all in the 90's? :laugh: they weren't lost or forgotten--THEY WERE ASSIMILATED! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

Must have been the spirit of the Borg or something. Some big machine something or another.

they've got reruns of old b/w flix on cable t.v., if the kids wanna see 'em.
young frankenstein, dead men don't wear plaid, sin city, woody allen, silent movie and that.

Quote - they've got reruns of old b/w flix on cable t.v., if the kids wanna see 'em.
young frankenstein, dead men don't wear plaid, sin city, woody allen, silent movie and that.

Gee, and here I was thinking 'Bringing Up Baby' and 'The Philadelphia Story'...lol. And if you haven't seen 'The Ghost and Mrs. Muir', you haven't lived...lol.

'Room Service' anyone? ;o)

Classics :D

Laurie

Quote - And if you haven't seen 'The Ghost and Mrs. Muir', you haven't lived...lol.

I still choke up everytime I watch that movie! Do you remember the Television series based on that movie? I'd love to get THAT on DVD!

I have to admit, I've never seen the tv series. Didn't even know there was one. But the movie I love ;o).

I grew up watching old movies and I don't regret a minute...lol.

Laurie

In this case, the TV series was superior to both the Movie and the Book!
dph

Didn't the TV series have Two children instead of just the daughter? I seem to remember there being a boy and a girl. Now I'm really wanting to look this series up again!

not sure id call it obsession/addiction... perhaps 'focus' is a better term. when im working on something (3D/leather/sculpting/gunsmithing/whatever) im really driven ... to the point where i dont eat/sleep/talk until i finish. im like a zombie. its pretty brutal in a relationship, cause you are in this work trance and your SO inevitably takes it personally that youre being a douchebag and not paying attention to them.
conversely, i get burnt out easily too.  if i am trying to get something to look/work exactly the way i want it but its just not happening because of the program/medium's limitations, then i get frustrated and discard it.  the few Poser figures ive released are like the tip of a huge iceberg of work-in-progress that never sees the light of day.

as for substance addiction, im strangely non-susceptible. ill smoke for a few weeks, then not even think about tobacco for years. ill be a hardcore alcoholic for a few weeks then not touch alcohol for a year or more.

and sanity? - its overrated. all the sane people i know are boring as fuck. sanity is the playground of the unimaginative :)

Oddly enough, I didn't find drugs addictive during my MidLife party crisis, and boy did I do plenty of them! I quit them all as soon as the crisis was over with no withdrawals, other than from the people I was hanging around with for that two year period.    I won't bother to list what all I did, but let me just say I drew the line at sticking needles in my arms.  Nobody should consider that a Party activity!

@LostinSpaceman;
It's been years since I've read the book, and that was years after I saw the series, but I DO seem to remember both a son and a daughter from the book!
dph

Quote - and sanity? - its overrated. all the sane people i know are boring as fuck. sanity is the playground of the unimaginative :)

Truer words never spoken ;o)...lol

Laurie

Never did drugs, which may seem strange since I'm a guitarist.  But there you go.  Have been known to drink excessively, though.  Haven't done that for some time, not since little Samuel was born.  I don't want him to see daddy drunk, nor do I think it's responsible parenting, let alone the personal pride bit of it.   Never know when I may need to take care of him alone, if Claire is sick or has to be somewhere.

I do have one addiction I can't (yet) shake; I'm a smoker.  I don't smoke in the house, though.  If anyone wonders why I can claim to not have an addictive personality, I'll say this much... nicotine is at least as addictive as heroin, if not more so.  Considering heroin allegedly makes you feel really, really good in return (seen a lot of addict friends die), yet nicotine does very little in return, that shows how addictive nicotine can be.

Yes I will quit but not yet.  Maybe next time I get taken to hospital.  :)

As for Poser, I'm still unable to shake the general feeling of "can't be arsed".  I'm enjoying making stuff more than using Poser lately and even making stuff don't appeal much at the moment.  Most of my time is taken up with family life and playing guitar.  I recently joined a band so I'm learning songs like crazy.

I quit smoking finally and for the last time, last October. Here's how. I started out by cutting back how much I smoked. I'd light a smoke and puff only enough to kill the urge and put it out to finish later. I got to the point where I was finally down to just 5 cigarettes a day doing this and that's when I quit cold turkey. I still waited to quit during a time when my family was out of town for two weeks so they wouldn't have to deal with my grumpies. :tt2:

I also stayed offline as much as possible during those two weeks just to be safe! LOL!

Wouldn't work for me.  Once I cut down I get complacent and start to smoke more OR I sit like an addict waiting for a fix.  I'm thinking of getting one of those electronic cigarettes. 

Quote - Wouldn't work for me.  Once I cut down I get complacent and start to smoke more OR I sit like an addict waiting for a fix.  I'm thinking of getting one of those electronic cigarettes. 

LOL! Well yeah, it does take some "Will Power" as well. :tt2:

Quote - > Quote - Wouldn't work for me.  Once I cut down I get complacent and start to smoke more OR I sit like an addict waiting for a fix.  I'm thinking of getting one of those electronic cigarettes. 

LOL! Well yeah, it does take some "Will Power" as well. :tt2:

Wow, really?  ;)