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Subject: Xstream and c4d


perilous7 ( ) posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 7:25 AM · edited Tue, 24 December 2024 at 6:55 PM

am having problems using xtream with c4d,

i have a vue scene imported into c4d,where do i go to alter the render quality? i have read both manuals and have tried altering render settings in c4d to top quality and putting the render settings in vue to ultra and there doesnt seem to be any change.

is the render setting hardwired into the scene after i have saved it in vue? because i cant seem to alter it. i will try making two or three identical scenes with differing render settings and seem what happens when i render in c4d next.

I cant believe how many there are things wrong with vue and they expect users to fork out  tons of cash for products that dont work properly half the time

 A cleaved head no longer plots.

http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com


kromekat ( ) posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 8:24 AM

Attached Link: CG Talk thread

Mac or PC based?

I am mac based and had nothing hut trouble with any version  of Vue, including Xstream - havent used it since 6.5 but have been making enquiries again lately to see if it is improved at all - according to what I have read, it seems it might be a bit better on the Mac now, and definitely better on the PC, but the opinions do seem very varied - not truly reliable software by anyone's books.

Adam

Adam Benton | www.kromekat.com


Rutra ( ) posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 11:07 AM

I am PC based and had nothing but pleasure with Vue. :-)
I have used it since version 6, I'm now on 8.5 (always Infinite). Vue has always been rock solid for me.

Different users experience different situations but there has always been a certain trend (although not universal) for more negative experiences in macs.

Several things do seem like important for stability in Vue:

  • a graphic card that is explicitely compatible with Vue
  • updated drivers
  • 64 bit systems are much more stable than 32 bits'
  • plenty of RAM available (more than 6GB)
  • a "clean" system (i.e, avoid having lots of widgets and similar stuff)

Anyway, my main point is: your bad experiences are not universal, far from it.


kromekat ( ) posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 11:20 AM

No, but they are frighteningly common.

When the 64bit version is available on the Mac as a demo, I will see how it performs.

Adam

Adam Benton | www.kromekat.com


bruno021 ( ) posted Mon, 14 June 2010 at 1:05 PM

What exactly is the problem, you say quality, but what quality issue? In the render? In the viewport? Global performance?  I am quite competent with xStream for C4D, so, if you can be more precise, I'll be glad to help.



perilous7 ( ) posted Tue, 15 June 2010 at 10:42 AM

hi sorry for lack of clarity.
its when i come to render. i have gone into the render settings for c4d and checked that they are correct and i have used the xstream plugin in c4d to access the render settings for vue there ,but when i put the quality to say ,final it doesnt seem to make a difference to final render quality.
i am aware that vue renders the vue parts of the render and c4d its own

 A cleaved head no longer plots.

http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com


bruno021 ( ) posted Tue, 15 June 2010 at 12:54 PM

You have indeed 2 options for rednering Vue elements inside C4D: either automatic, then most render parameters inside Vue are set to match C4D render settings, whenever possible (max ray depth for example has a maximum of 7 in Vue if I'm correct, so if you have ray depth to 15 in C4D, you won't have more than 7 in Vue anyway), also texture filtering and texture anti aliasing are not matched, there won't be texture filtering in Vue unless you use separate Vue render settings.
Now if using Vue render settings, you can access all presets or create your own render settings for the Vue parts. Using your own render settings will allow to fine tune the texture AA and texture filtering, needed for animation.
Please note that object anti aliasing is always done by C4D, and maybe this is where your problem lies.
If you have AA set to "geometry" in C4D, then the AA quality of the Vue elements will be bad, even if using high Vue settings, because the plugin doesn't deal with AA, it lets C4D do it so AA levels are consistent throughout the whole render. So you'll need to set C4D's AA strategy to "best", with min1x1, max 2x2 to get good AA levels on the Vue elements, even if you wouldn't need such levels for the C4D elements .I rarely use "geometry" anyway, it's not good as soon as you have a Nurbs object in the scene, but sometimes, it can be enough. But if you have Vue elements in the scene, you'll need to use "best".
Let me know if this fixes your problem.



perilous7 ( ) posted Wed, 16 June 2010 at 4:41 AM

thanks for input im sure i have setting in c4d at best but will have a look at the min max levels as it could be that thats affecting the rendering :-)

 A cleaved head no longer plots.

http://www.perilous7.moonfruit.com


bruno021 ( ) posted Wed, 16 June 2010 at 6:45 AM · edited Wed, 16 June 2010 at 6:45 AM

Ok, also, if you could post a render, would be easier to see where the problem might lie, as long as a screengrab of your C4D and Vue render settings.



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