Hi This 10 minute presentation might be of interest to some who have opined here, that the $$profit $$motive has actually Degraded the poser market

LINK

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There's two sides to that - the consumers are very much part of the equation.  Supply and demand.

Yup, it's a two way thing.  merchants don't make it cos consumers won't buy it :)

And I'm not convinced that its all about profit.  Part of the satisfaction is knowing that people are using your models.

Why make somethign that no one is going to use? give it away I hear you say, well that doesn't really work, for the 1000s of downloads for each free item, does anyone actually ever use it?  Probably not I suspect, since I gave it no value to begin with how will the consumer value it?

Until there is a sensible connection between merchants and consumers regarding what is really wanted in the marketplace, things will not change.

It's not about one or two specific requests in the wishing well, that's all very well but not representative of consumers as a whole.  We need to ask the community, as a whole, what do you want, in broad terms?  Nothing specific like, a dress for blah blah, but broader strokes. 

If we got an answer that said 50% of consumers wanted more support for M4, then I am sure merchants would start supporting him more.

or

60% of consumers want a bigger range of lighting rigs
45% want buildings
35% want more materials

and so on and so forth.

Rant over ;)

John

Indeed interesting, but he missed one distinction near the end.  Companies that
operate on a profit motive will generally do the "right thing", because failing to
serve the customers decreases profit.  But most big corporations today DO NOT
operate on a profit motive.  Their goal is to increase share price.  This is almost
completely disconnected from actual performance, product quality, and service
quality.  The stock market moves partly on pure emotion, partly on maneuvers
by insiders.

Add the fact that the financial reward for making Poser content is far less than, say, flipping hamburgers or pushing a lawnmower.

What motivates me to make something is believe or not : Girls.

well that and happiness.

Quote - There's two sides to that - the consumers are very much part of the equation.  Supply and demand.

Then you miss the entire point of the presentation im afraid
its about what motivates us individuals to produce our highest quality or be our most Creative.
Not what the prevailing market forces are demanding of us.
That is why when you look at REAL
3D/CG Gallery(not just the MP promo shots you see in the "gallery" here,)

You will inevitably find the personal pieces
to be of higher quality that the Commercial pieces.

Maybe, but a very key item from that presentation is that basic needs have to be met.  You get better performance from people when they are at the point where they do not have to think about money any more and can think about their work 100% - get to that point with making Poser content only.

Quote - Indeed interesting, but he missed one distinction near the end.  Companies that
operate on a profit motive will generally do the "right thing", because failing to
serve the customers decreases profit.  But most big corporations today DO NOT
operate on a profit motive.  Their goal is to increase share price.  This is almost
completely disconnected from actual performance, product quality, and service
quality.  The stock market moves partly on pure emotion, partly on maneuvers
by insiders.

Thank you Sir
The Main "motivation" for the modern
worker is DEBT SERVICE.
Nearly everyone in the world is a SLAVE to Debt.
I find it interesting the Masters Of Debt creation
THE PRIVATELY OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE,
Conducted the initial study cited in the video.
but I wont comment further on that matter
as the linked comic in my sig explains it more clearly.

Cheers

Good presentation.  I agree with Ockham's observations, too.  Cases in point, the privatised water companies in the UK, most of our banks, public transport. 

Quote - Companies that operate on a profit motive will generally do the "right thing", because failing to serve the customers decreases profit.

There's a very big caveat to that, and not a pretty one: the great majority of humans do the "right thing" out of fear of punishment, and if they can easily evade punishment - for example if they can make an inferior product at a higher profit with less work or quality without being caught, or if they can ignore expensive safety precautions without consequences - then they'll do it.  The current BP spill is a perfect example of this.  Sure, it's going to cost them money NOW, but before the spill I think it's pretty clear they didn't have any fear of consequences.

The studies this thing was based on forgot one thing: stress.  While they gave people a big reward, the fact there was a big reward for cognitive skills probably gave the people a ton of stress which caused them to screw up.  I mean you don't get a lot of oppertunities to make 2 months salary for a little test all the time.  Plus I know someone who just got a 10% pay cut and is now much more unmotivated to do hard work.

I think self direction and mastery are important to people personally but there's a lot more going on than that.  And this is the huge problem with psychology, you miss the little things or you've got ideological blinders on and your theory is bunk. 

BTW, as someone with a degree in management, I know the idea this is based on is pretty old.

Hierarchy of Needs

I also forget the name of it, but there's another theory based on positive and negative motivators.  Basically you've got things like money where a lack of it is a negative motivator, but doesn't positively motivate you if you have a lot of it, but you've got other things which can positively or negatively motivate you.

For over 15 years now I've believed that money was not the prime motivator, as mentioned in that presentation the money needs to be adequate, but the prime motivator is knowing at the end of the day that you have done a good job.

I also agree with Ockham's point about the difference between profit and share value.

While not agreeing or disagreeing with the statements, there is something wrong with the research presented....... it was only done on a very select group of people, a number of students at MIT for a short period of time. That is way to limited to make any definite conclusions.

Money only doesn't drive me to create content, although earning a little is very nice. There's more to it.... but money is part of it. If I try to sell content and no one does buy them, no matter on how many other reasons I may have to create content, I will give up..... there's no point in creating something no one does buy.

While money isn't my main motivator, it plays a huge part.....

I think almost nobody (and possibly, no one at all) who makes their primary income off of doing Poser content falls into the "overcompensated" category :)

Quote - it was only done on a very select group of people, a number of students at MIT for a short period of time. That is way to limited to make any definite conclusions.

You haven't watched the video to the end, have you? :)