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Subject: OT - Okay Tell Me About Windows 7


Latexluv ( ) posted Sat, 19 June 2010 at 7:42 PM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 2:08 AM

So, I have a Toshiba Satellite P100 laptop and it seems to be wanting to go to the grave. I started it up yesterday and now there is a thin yellow line running down about the center of my screen. Seems that it is the video card which Geeksquad tells me is hard wired onto the laptop and cannot be easily replaced. So as much as I can't really afford a new laptop right now, I'm gonna have to get one. I'm hoping to hold out until the back to school specials hit at the stores.  I've already called and talked with Bestbuy, Futureshop, and London Drugs, and none of them have any XP machines left, and especially not with a 17 inch screen. So I'm gonna have to get a machine with freaking Windows 7 on it. Can anyone running Window 7 tell me about his operating system????

Thanks!

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 19 June 2010 at 7:54 PM

So far so good just got it today so am still loading my stuff, I got the x64 bit version. I like it, very sleek and customize-able. I had xp pro x64 bit before this. You should check out some of the videos that show 7's new features. 😄

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Latexluv ( ) posted Sat, 19 June 2010 at 7:57 PM

Where are said videos?

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sat, 19 June 2010 at 8:38 PM

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dlfurman ( ) posted Sat, 19 June 2010 at 11:25 PM

You will like it. Just don't install Poser under C:Program Files (x86).....

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Latexluv ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 12:38 AM

I'm transferring files to my big external drive. I've copied over Poser Pro and Poser 8. I am assuming that I could under Windows 7 run both programs from the external?

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thefixer ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 2:46 AM

Windows 7 is head and shoulders above XP. You won't regret the move..

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 7:15 AM

Quote - You will like it. Just don't install Poser under C:Program Files (x86).....

Haven't paid attention to this until now, where do we install Poser while maintaining a standard Runtime folder install?

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thefixer ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 8:31 AM

Mine is where the other poster has told you not to put it....
Mine is there simply because that is where I prefer it and I don't have issues some report because I disable the UAC because A) I know my way around a PC and don't need wet nursing.. and B) My anti virus, Firewall and anti spyware are the best there are and I don't ever do anything stoopid like installing or opening files that I don't know where they come from or that I haven't also scanned them even if I trust the source..

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hborre ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 8:38 AM · edited Sun, 20 June 2010 at 8:39 AM

Bottomline, for those that do know their way around Vista and W7, do what feels comfortable.  Those that haven't a clue, place your app in it's own folder on your core HD to avoid problems accessing runtimes and saving files.

And yes, you shouldn't have problems running off an external.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 8:48 AM

Poser 8 and Poser Pro 2010 can safely be isntalled to the program Files folder, as they do not place their content there. Evene the old Poser 7 and Poser Pro can as long as you install your add-on content to an external folder (V4 and M4 are fine in external Runtimes in P7 and later; choose DAZ Studio as the target application to avoid the installer's check for Poser.exe).

However, the screen symptoms sound rather like a loose connection to me - fatigued cable or loose connector - which should be eminently fixable. At least ask the repair people why they don't think that is the issue.


DarkEdge ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 9:24 AM

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My UAC is already disabled and I still can't install V4. I've tried installing Poser in ProgramFiles and no V4 install, so I uninstalled that Poser. Installed Poser in a folder called MyPrograms and still I can't install V4. Here is the error I keep getting, any help would reaklly be appreciated.

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 9:49 AM

also, sorry to hijack this thread.

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thefixer ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 9:56 AM · edited Sun, 20 June 2010 at 10:05 AM

To me that looks like the DAZ installer hasn't initialised properly, maybe try redownloading your V4 files and try it again.

I actually use Poser 7 even though I have 8, but my V4 is installed in Poser 6 where all my stuff goes. Poser 6 is my install programme, I use 7 but render inside Vue 8.5.

Now here's the thing, when I got this PC, V4 was already installed on my old machine in the P6 runtime. I re-installed all my poser apps and then copied the saved runtimes into those installs, so technically V4 has never been installed on this machine I suppose...
I have no issues though, try a redownload, it could be corrupted..

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 10:00 AM

DarkEdge take a look at this thread for your answer. I had the same errors and found a fix for it.

dzInstall.ini

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DarkEdge ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 10:02 AM

Quote - DarkEdge take a look at this thread for your answer. I had the same errors and found a fix for it.

dzInstall.ini

That was it. I tried doing this trick earlier but didn't create a Common File folder.
Thanks all for the assist!

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 11:10 AM
Darboshanski ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 7:51 PM

Anyhow....lol.... I upgraded both my machines (one a WinXP and one a Vista 64 machine) to windows 7 64-bit and was so glad I did. It kicks vista to the curb.

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Sun, 20 June 2010 at 9:37 PM · edited Sun, 20 June 2010 at 9:41 PM

I'm running Windows 7 now and have been for several months.
When i bought this laptop (HP/Compaq) I also got the free windows upgrade from XP.

To me it is much better, not hard to use at all so far, no error or crashes like with XP.

Mine is a 32bit but my daughter got the same brand with Win 7 pre-installed on a 64 bit and she has no problems.

There are a few things that takes getting used to but they are minor...lol.

Edited to say...
I did get rid of the pre-installed antivirus and switched to AVG.
Last time I used Macafee or Norton's someone snuck a nasty past my firewall and it ate them.
They stick nasties in web pages where you least expect it.
Even Win 7 isn't immune without help.


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kawecki ( ) posted Tue, 22 June 2010 at 7:22 AM

Installers

With Windows64 there are two Program Files folder: Program Files (x86) for 32 bit apps and Program Files for 64 bit apps and Windows does the mess redirecting the file location.
It is possible that dzinstall.ini was intalled in the Program Files folder and when you run Daz program, as it is a 32bit application, Windows will redirect the Program Files path to Program Files (x86) where dzinstall.ini does not exist!!!

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mtfmtf ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 9:09 AM

On the topic of Program Files (x86), I just discovered that the x86 folder is for 32bit programs.  I installed Poser Pro into the x86 folder and have been using the program for all most a year.  Now I am wondering if I am running Poser Pro as 32 bit or 64 bit.  How would I know?  Also, does any one know if I can just cut and paste the Smith Micro folder from the x86 folder to the Program Files (for 64 bit programs) folder?  (Windows vista OS)


mackis3D ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 10:10 AM · edited Sat, 31 July 2010 at 10:12 AM

"On the topic of Program Files (x86), I just discovered that the x86 folder is for 32bit programs.  I installed Poser Pro into the x86 folder and have been using the program for all most a year.  Now I am wondering if I am running Poser Pro as 32 bit or 64 bit.  How would I know? "

A year ago there was no Poser Pro 2010. But if you mean the other Poser Pro, that was a 32 bit app and has to be in the x86 folder. Only the renderer was 64bit. You ran Poser Pro on 32 bit and if you rendered the 64 bit renderer was used when you are working on a 64bit OS.  You can check that with your Task Manager, it's either FFrender.exe (32bit on a 32 bit OS) or FFRender64.exe (64bit on a 64 bit OS)


mtfmtf ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 10:23 AM

Thanks.  I did not remember about Poser Pro (not Poser Pro 2010) being 32 bit and got excited when I read that the x86 folder was for 32 bit programs.  I was thinking about getting Poser Pro 2010 anyway.  Thanks again.


ratscloset ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 11:42 AM

Quote - You will like it. Just don't install Poser under C:Program Files (x86).....

This is not an issue and never has been with Poser 7.0.4.220 or later. Poser 6 and earlier will have issues under Vista or Windows 7, even when installed to a non Program Files location. Those that say you need to install Poser elsewhere are misinformed.

Windows 7 Business can run the older Poser under its compatiblity options.

The Poser 7.0.4.220 and later do not require you to have any content installed in the Main Program Files Folder. Since Poser 5, additional content could be installed in external Libraries if made correctly. Even DAZ3D figures can be installed into external Libraries without issues, if installed  correctly.

Main Poser Library Location (DefaultPoser.ini in the Prefs Folder) is seamless when installed to a location other than Program files. You only need to know where it is to add content. Poser 8 and later, I would not add content to the Main Library Location, instead create external locations and install there.

Since Poser 7.0.4.220 is only available as an update, you will need to create the Default Poser.ini and copy the Main Poser Runtime Folder to that location to set it up in Poser 7. Poser Pro, Poser 8, and Poser Pro 2010, this is an install option. If you use external Libraries for all additional content, you can keep the Main Library location in the Program Files. The issue is Vista and Windows 7 which do not like you to make changes, including adding content, to any Program Files Location. If you do (with UAC on) it will be in the Virtual Store. It will not impact Poser too much, but some content does not like the Virtual Store Location and it also gets confusing if you go looking for the files or if you have multiple users on the machine some users may not have access to some of the content.

If you have Poser Pro or later, do yourself a favor and install the Program to the Default location, and install the content to a Shared Folder or another location on your system. It also makes it easier to back up your Content.

ratscloset
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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 11:46 AM

"Those that say you need to install Poser elsewhere are misinformed."

erm no we're not. I personally found poser 6 and 7 and Pro work better in a folder not in Program Files on Windows 7. in program files they crashed and had problems. outside of program files they work fine.

am I imagining that they7work better? no.  hours of testing proved me right. sorry RC but please don't say we're misinformed when we've actually tested it and it works.



ratscloset ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 11:59 AM

If they are crashing, (other than Poser 6) then something is not right with the install or settings... Poser 6 is another animal altogether... it may work and then one day may not.. . Do not even try Poser 5! (yes, some have gotten it to work, but that is the exception and in my personal tests, it is not real stable.)

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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 12:05 PM · edited Sat, 31 July 2010 at 12:12 PM

erm no... I tried this on 2 different PC's, Windows 7 32bit and 64bit. same results on both, virgin installs on both OS and Poser.

once poser is removed from the UAC controlled areas, it worked just fine. no issues. but in UAC controlled areas, it was unstable. and this is with the main content stored elsewhere.

I know your giving the official line, but I'll go with whats actually working on the systems I have here. I just take exception to being called 'misinformed' when there is a lot of evidence that poser has problems with UAC.



BeyondVR ( ) posted Sat, 31 July 2010 at 1:11 PM

Just to throw another pepper into the gumbo, I have only Poser 6 on a W7 64-bit machine.  I installed it to the root drive, but other than that it is installed just as on my XP machines.  All of my content, including extra runtimes are under the Poser 6 folder.  I don't, however, use the word "runtime" in any but the original.  The others are named for the character, libraries under those foldes.  All geometry and texture files are in the main runtime.  I've used it several times a day for months, and have had no problems whatsoever.

I don't know about DAZ installers; I haven't bought anything from them in a couple of years.  V4 and M4 are SEP (somebody else's problem).

John


ratscloset ( ) posted Sun, 01 August 2010 at 11:26 PM

Quote - erm no... I tried this on 2 different PC's, Windows 7 32bit and 64bit. same results on both, virgin installs on both OS and Poser.

once poser is removed from the UAC controlled areas, it worked just fine. no issues. but in UAC controlled areas, it was unstable. and this is with the main content stored elsewhere.

I know your giving the official line, but I'll go with whats actually working on the systems I have here. I just take exception to being called 'misinformed' when there is a lot of evidence that poser has problems with UAC.

First off, there is no official line.. If anything, the official line is to identify and report all issues. If an issue is found, we also look for any workarounds that we can share with users. These get written up as Knowledge Base Articles in Support.

Most users that have issues, and do not have a default install, resolve those issues with a default recommended install. One reason I harp on this is the number of new users or new Window 7 Users that contact Support with issues and have installed the Program to Documents, an external Drive, etc... because someone in the Forums told them it would not run if they install to the Program Files... Yes, you can get it to work installed to the documents or other location, but it is not needed. If my daughter, who has no real understanding of anything technical about computers, can follow the prompts and install on Vista and the program runs without issues, it should also work for others.

Personally, all of my systems with UAC (Vista, Vista 64, Windows 7, Windows 7 64) all have Poser 7, Poser Pro, Poser 8, and Poser Pro 2010 installed and all use the default install (Program Files with content on Shared Drive, Data Drive and External Drive ) I use these systems everyday to test reported issues or to assist users in resolving issues. The Windows 7 64 Machine is 100% Virgin.. never been connected to the network or Web. If anyone is having issues with a default install for Poser on Vista or Windows 7, they should contact support.

I do have Poser 7 installed to a Data Drive on my Vista machine, and a External Drive hooked to my Windows 7 machine, in addition to the default installs for testing of issues reported by users, but in checking, the last time I used the one on the Vista machine was over 3 months ago and the one on the Windows 7 machine I used just once, to test the issue a user reported.

I will add that my machine I use for my graphics projects is a XP64 System that I had built specifically for doing Graphics work (Quadro Card and all) I actually use this one less than my Vista and Windows 7 64 that I have for work issues, due to time constraints. I am updating that to Windows 7 Ultimate later this year to allow for the multiple Operating System boots, so I can remove a few machines from my Office that I find I am using less and less (my XP, and XP 64 test beds, along with the Vista Home machine hopefully.)

ratscloset
aka John


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