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Subject: Question about flickering and TextureFiltering!


Horsepower0171 ( ) posted Wed, 03 November 2010 at 11:57 AM · edited Sat, 28 December 2024 at 8:16 AM

Question about flickering and TextureFiltering!

Hi to all!

I installed 3dsMax2011+Vue 8.5 xStream.
I made a scene with strata terrain with a car that moving along this terrain.
The problem is that:

-I made a first version of this animation as .tif images, with default settings in Vue xStream-Plugin.
The settings for AA in 3dsMax 2011-MentalRay, are Min: 1/64, Max: 4.
Precisely I set Automatic in VuePlugin>Options>RenderQuality: Automatic (based on native renderer sampling quality).

-Now I made a second version with Options>UserSettings>AntialiasingOptions:Texturefiltering=33%.
This due to the flickering of bushes, that appear in the first version of the movie.

Now, the flickering over bushes it is corrected; bushes appear smoothed.

-But the problem is that at certaint intervals the branches of "WinterTree" specie, appears and disappears, with TextureFiltering=33% enabled!
In the first version of the rendered movie WinterTrees were perfect.
Why?

I also had to correct the settings manually for "Object Antialiasing" in Vue Standalone, because in 3dsMax after rendering, it appears the following message with

"UserSettings" switched On, in "RenderOptions":

"Your MentalRay render settings are too low compared to your Vue render settings. Results will be of low quality and will not match the kind of results you would expect from your Vue settings, due to the poor sampling level. You should either increase the sampling level in MentalRay, or check the "Adjust native renderer settings to match Vue scene" option.
Do you want to start rendering anyway? Yes/No?"

This message appears anytime 3dsMax render each frame...
I want check this button:
"X.Don't show this message again."
But it is uncheckable, not available, blocked.
-So I corrected the "ObjectAA" settings manually (Min:1,Max:2,Quality:40%) in Vue Standalone, to match the native 3dsMaxAA as around Min: 1/4 (retouched to 1/64) and Max: 4.
OK?
The problem is solved in part: the message doesn’t appear anymore.

-But my settings on “ObjectAA” in Vue Standalone are correct?
-I am also curious to know: with “Automatic” RenderQuality setting in Vue-Plugin, the corresponding value of “ObjectAA” of Vue Standalone what is (to match native renderer sampling quality)?
-Is it Min:1,Max:2 as I set manually?

Many thanks!
Horsepower0171.


bruno021 ( ) posted Wed, 03 November 2010 at 1:13 PM

Reading red in the Rendo color scheme is really painful to the eyes.

Object anti aliasing when using xStream is performed by your native (MR) renderer. Vue doesn't perform anti aliasing AT ALL.



R.P.Studios ( ) posted Wed, 03 November 2010 at 1:54 PM

NO kidding with the red.

I havent drank since Halloween and still seeing double everything WTH !!!

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.




Horsepower0171 ( ) posted Thu, 04 November 2010 at 4:27 AM · edited Thu, 04 November 2010 at 4:29 AM

Quote - Reading red in the Rendo color scheme is really painful to the eyes.

Object anti aliasing when using xStream is performed by your native (MR) renderer. Vue doesn't perform anti aliasing AT ALL.

So why if I try to decrease the AA in Vue Standalone the warning message (too low render settings compared to Vue) disappear?

I think that exists some link from Vue ObjectAA to native AA...so by decreasing the VueAA (Min:1,Max:2) it match the mentalrayAA (Min:1/4,Max;4).

Otherwise it is no explanation of why the warning message disappear...

-Have you tried to check: "Adjust native renderer settings to match Vue scene" option?

-When checked and when you change low the Vue ObjectAA, it decrease the native AA!


bruno021 ( ) posted Thu, 04 November 2010 at 1:17 PM

Yes, if you lower some settings in Vue, the native renderer's settings will be lowered accordingly, so the "Adjust native renderer settings" option does indeed match your  Vue render settings. In your case, you should've increased your MR settings to match Vue's. But as I said, Vue doesn't do the anyti aliasing. It just tells MR that to match it's settings, MR settings must be higher. And when you separate render settings, Vue will still check that MR and Vue will perform a "consistent" render, hence the warning. If you do decide to render anyway, I agree the message should not appear at every frame, but that has to be suggested to e-on directly. Maybe this is intended, I don't know, ask them.



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