ITs the start of the new year, and there is a product that really caught my eye so far. Not to dis anyone's new stuff, as they all fit in for somebody, but this is the type of character I look for.

A new one from Rebelmommy....RM Elaine ...
I love the marketing presentation, first off...a bit new from the norm. The entire character is presented very well...and the character herself, looks like she needs to be in our runtimes.

http://market.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=83994&WhatsNew=Y

Hi as stated on the Top front page of these forums

"Here in the Renderosity Poser Forum, our goal is to create an excellent learning environment for those of us wanting to learn new aspects to make our Poser-including artwork better. We strive to create an environment that is not only conducive to learning, but also to kicking back and having fun, and getting to know one another. If you have a product in the Renderosity Marketplace you want to show off, please do so in the Marketplace Showcase forum."

any promos for commercial products need to be posted in the

product showcase forum.

Cheers

and the rule is, that applys to the maker. not someone who bought it and wants to give a shout out.... ask a mod they'll tell ya.

Ahh I see

Well My vote for product of the past year goes to:

"Preta3D"

http://www.daz3d.com/i/shop/itemdetails/?item=11203

The Dazites are making some nice renders over there.

Cheers

well then get a mod to delete the damn thing. jeez..............

can't even explitive a cool product. Screw this place. Happy New Year to ya'all

and do you know what?

I don't have time for this whiney, tattle tale, school daze BS anymore. Hoping 2011 would start off cool, but NOT ............

Well as Magnus Greel stated you apparently are not violatiing any rules as I mistakenly first thought.

Cheers

Quote - well then get a mod to delete the damn thing. jeez..............

can't even explitive a cool product. Screw this place. Happy New Year to ya'all

chill out man. there was a mix up, it's settled. end of problem.

Don't make me post cat pictures here.

here's the points

#1 I'm chilled

#2 who made anyone other than the mods the rule police around here. If you think the rules are broken, go whine to a mod and they can take care of it.

#3 I'm chilled

#4 deleted ..I'm chillin

#5 I still think its a real nice character package by a very talented artist.

#6 I'll think of it upon the next post

"I love the marketing presentation, first off...a bit new from the norm. The entire character is presented very well."

So it is now the marketing presentation that "needs mention"?

Can we next recommend beautiful avatars? It would be less spam.

Attached Link: Super Burger Pak

Quote -  I get so unexcited about the never ending flood of Poser female stuff.  I like seeing something different with lots of choices/options.  My vote for one of the best MP items this past year is for the Super Hamburger Pak.

 

Wow now im hungry!!

Cheers

{sigh} Is that photographed-in reflections I see in the eyes? :blink: Oh well, I suppose it doesn't matter. Based on what one sees in the marketplace, it's still a requirement to have them in the eye colourMaps, for some inexplicable reason. I even purchased a set from a vendor, asking her if she'd be willing to send me the original ones (the images before inserting the reflections) and she seemed puzzled: why would I want that?

The vendors don't read the forums, that's clear. Or we'd see a lot less of this.Or maybe not, because those that require burnt-in reflections don't read these forum either.

Otherwise, a stunning character.

OK.. Sorry couldnt resist

Cheers

@Robynsveil

Those can be removed right?

I find them utterly useless as well

but users of older poser versions might like them

they are in separate channels

in my rendering program and are promply deleted

after import.

Cheers

Yes, Wolf, you can get rid of them with an effort, but it requires cloning and detail work.Oh well, the market drives this stuff, and the market is largely ignorant about stuff, so... can't really blame the vendors, I suppose.

Quote - and the rule is, that applys to the maker. not someone who bought it and wants to give a shout out.... ask a mod they'll tell ya.

I agree.  :)

its your smile ... even I melt..can't be chilled.
ok..I'm all better now.

Youse guys don't like burned in reflections?

This may be a popular trend for current offerings, but I think plenty of V3 products had "plain" colored eyes.  I like using older products when possible.  The system requirements are usually much less.  I would think at least some vendors read the postings in Marketplace wishing well forum.  If folks started posting they would like some eye packs without reflections, I would think someone would create such a pack? 

All I see is another digital barbie as we see arise day after day in the marketplace. I'm sure lot's of people will have fun with her, but I fait to see why she needs to be in my runtime.

Quote - All I see is another digital barbie as we see arise day after day in the marketplace. I'm sure lot's of people will have fun with her, but I fail to see why she needs to be in my runtime.

QFA !!

Cheers

Quote - its your smile ... even I melt..can't be chilled.
ok..I'm all better now.

Youse guys don't like burned in reflections?

No, because they conflict with the reflections in the eyes of the lights in the scene.

It wasn't an issue until I started using a more enlightened approach to reflections and eye textures. There's heaps of discussions on the topic on here. However, only the fewest of those who frequent the marketplace (Rendo customers) actually come and have a peek in here. It's like we're two different communities. Hence, the profliferation of this sort of thing: most customers want this! Just like burnt-in specualr on the skin: impossible to find a resource kit that doesn't have it.

"I'm sure lot's of people will have fun with her, but I fait to see why she needs to be in my runtime."

She doesn't and won't be in mine either.  But I don't think Dave's main point was that everyone needed to buy it.  I took it more as a figurative "loks like she needs to be in our runtimes" as a way of describing his enthusiasim for this product. 

Have you thought to e-mail one of the vendors who's product you like that came with reflections in the eyes and asked about them creating something like that without it?  On several occassions I've e-mailed a vender and told them how much I liked their item, but wish it came with this or could they create one like it with these.  And bless their hearts!  They said, "Good idea!"  Not long awards, I got my wish.  It seldom hurts to ask someone directly.

Quote - Have you thought to e-mail one of the vendors who's product you like that came with reflections in the eyes and asked about them creating something like that without it?  On several occassions I've e-mailed a vender and told them how much I liked their item, but wish it came with this or could they create one like it with these.  And bless their hearts!  They said, "Good idea!"  Not long awards, I got my wish.  It seldom hurts to ask someone directly.

Actually, I have. Once I explained why I didn't like/need those photographed-in reflections, she promised me to get me the original images ... haven't heard back from her.

Probably wouldn't hurt to ask a few others, though...

ETA: do you think posting this request on the Vendor forum might have the desired effect, ialora?

As for burned-in reflections (in any product), it's a nice option but I wouldn't want it to be the only option.

Don't like burned in reflections or baked in speculars.  Never have.  A lot of eye textures have reflections, though.  Bleah.

I dunno... I've always found Rebelmommy's characters to have more personality than most, and much less Barbi-esque. This pack certainly has body morphs you don't find very often.

As far as baked-in eye reflections, it's a minor point, especially in comparison to the good textures, interesting face, body morphs, and number of options she comes with.

You can say all female characters are Digital Barbis. It all depends on what you do with them before you hit Render.

Sorry but I Disagree
I Just  popped over to the Daz Galleries and grabbed the first random image
Nothing particulaly compelling about the character being discussed in this thread
IMHO
you see Many Female Character packs of the same look/style all over

Cheers

RM does good work, I have a few of her characters...

And I see this is the one with the funky eye makeup she posted in her gallery.

Which vendor forum?  I'm not familar with that one.  I know the "wishing well" is the designated place for posting product suggestions and requests. 

Um, this one - actually, it's called Vendor Support forum - my bad. I guess perhaps the Wishing Well might be a more appropriate place, though...

Quote - Um, this one - actually, it's called Vendor Support forum - my bad. I guess perhaps the Wishing Well might be a more appropriate place, though...

Robyn you do realize that only us active vendors

can access that forum ??

Oh, I see... thanks for that, Wolf... I didn't realise.

We must have vastly differnt opinions of what defines Barbi. That is a darned fine render, and an interesting face. Too bad she's not eligible for America's Next Top Model. And, as I said, what you do before rendering makes the difference. Just because you like a face doesn't mean you can have a mess-around with it.

I use both reflected and non-reflected textures, if that's the right terminology. I do whatever needs to be done to get away from that blank stare we all love :) It would be great if the vendors included both types with a character, though.

And yes....i was merely stating my excitement on this product. I thought it was somewhat unique with the eyelashes ... the body morphs, a ton of very nice eyes, etc. The face is beautiful...and yes, there are a ton of the same everywhere..and I sometimes think to myself, there are so many look alike characters, why bother? How many can you deal with? Other than portraits and stuff, who needs them all?

But certain characters just sort of strike me..this one did, most of Phoenix1966 stuff does.. Syyd's Sky over at RDNA is great, most of Mec4D stuff... SteffyZZ when she was around.... what every happened to Stefania anyway?

I rarely use the textures with the included face.. I like to dial up my own, so i use a combo of heads, faces, morphs, etc.

Quote - I rarely use the textures with the included face.. I like to dial up my own, so i use a combo of heads, faces, morphs, etc.

I do the same thing, I texture my own and customize my own.

I have to say, I rather like the pic posted above.  Much better than many recent V4 characters I've seen.  I haven't bought many V4 characters because most of 'em seem lousy IMO.  This one, however, is pretty good.

Ah, OK.  So it was the vendor "only" forum you were refering to. 

Cute face and a fun presentation. Thanks for pointing her out Dave. Though perhaps I should point out that the 'Look' thing doesn't initiate a 3D page turning effect and the lines of text at the bottom are too close together, all so Web 1.0, but I guess if it sells - just to stay in the spirit of things :-)

its good to think a bit outside the box, as RM does here. The sameo sameo marketing presentations get a bit old after looking at, what, several thousand, V4 characters :)

Why would I even buy any of them at this point? Something needs to stand out, and at this point, it needs to be almost human or something. At least a different presentation catches your eye. Will I buy this one? Probably not, I already have at least 40 V4 characters, maybe more.

Quote - > Quote - ...more personality than most, and much less Barbi-esque. This pack certainly has body morphs you don't find very often.

 

Sorry but I Disagree
I Just  popped over to the Daz Galleries and grabbed the first random image
Nothing particulaly compelling about the character being discussed in this thread
IMHO
you see Many Female Character packs of the same look/style all over

Cheers

Yep, good example of a digital barbie indeed, looks like all the rest.

Why should Vickie be any less predictable than the comments here? 

I asked Amy (RebelMommy) if she was planning on doing makeups without speculars because I always render in Vue or Max and prefer to do the highlights etc. there.  Within a couple of hours I had them!

I have a lot of her characters and they are all very good.  Good customer support too

I prefer no reflections myself, or, like Kendra, would prefer that it not be the only option. Hence the reason I tend to mix and match between textures, and why I tend to purchase eye texture packs (when they can be found, anyway), that offer multiple options.

Do I not browse the Marketplace enough? This is a lovely character IMHO. And, despite a looming plumbing bill, I'm raiding Rebelmommy's store today. RM Aubry looks sassy enough for a Full Throttle Render, and I have to have RMTH Laura, 'cause Angelina rocks. There a couple of others that are great faces, but I can't conjure up any images they'd fit. Think I'll add this new one, too, if for nothing else than the textures.

Barbie clones seem to be more rampant in Hollywood than in Poser. You know you're getting old when they all seem like 'the brunette one' or 'the blonde one'... dozens of surgically altered Stepford starlettes. Ah... for a good Kate Hepburn face once in a while...

"Ah... for a good Kate Hepburn face once in a while..."

Now that would provide some non-Babiesque variety to the Poserverse, though I've always been partial to Bacall myself. Doubt that too many of today's content producers know who they are much less what they look like :-)