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Subject: looking for a shack


shante ( ) posted Tue, 18 January 2011 at 5:31 PM · edited Fri, 10 January 2025 at 5:47 PM

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Hi all!

Looking for shack that looks like this. Anyone seen one around. If the right one would pay the price for admission.
Needs big doors on front beneath corrugated roof. Doors can be barn-like sliders or opening to outside double door system.
Chimney not necessary but ok.
Boards on window not necessary but great just need them to be invisible when the time required for showing passage of time.
The old worn wood look is important since it would be something found in New Mexico arid/desert areas of SW.
Windows on both sides and rear of shack.
Old strained/distressed wood floor would be great but I will be in addition adding dust/dirt and straw piles and other detritus as needed for the final render as well.
This is going to be used as a storage shack and stall for equines/donkeys so if it looks like it could accomodate them great but prefer open area in front of door.

Any help would be appreciated.


triangle2010 ( ) posted Tue, 18 January 2011 at 7:52 PM

I found one at daz http://www.daz3d.com/i/shop/itemdetails/?item=11550

it looks like near to what you finding, and the old look of the wood , may be you can make in the texture.

 

hope this help😄

 

 


shante ( ) posted Tue, 18 January 2011 at 8:01 PM

Hey thanks. I already got that but it isn't what I needed. I tried.

But thanks.


vintorix ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 2:17 AM

Attached Link: Derelict Barn

 

Dark Anvil excel in all things old and worn..


SteveJax ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 4:21 AM · edited Wed, 19 January 2011 at 4:23 AM

Quote -  Dark Anvil excel in all things old and worn..

All Vanishing Point merchandise was moved to Rosity. Here's the barn now.


vintorix ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 10:04 AM

Attached Link: Or this?

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shante ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 10:33 AM

Nice but it has to be to use in Poser. Have no other app to work with.

I have to come to terms that I may never find the exact look I want. All the models I have been sent to already existing have elements of what I need but not complete. The ideal would be to get it built but I just don't know how.

Thanks all for the help!

I'll keep looking.  :)


vintorix ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 11:27 AM · edited Wed, 19 January 2011 at 11:27 AM

Attached Link: Log_Cabin_Construction_Set

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With a construction kit can you make your own shack exatly as you want it. This product is Poser.


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 1:08 PM

You might be able to use parts of this to make something http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/0/old-shed?item=8664&cat=&_m=d



vintorix ( ) posted Wed, 19 January 2011 at 1:24 PM

Or somerhing like this!


shante ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:25 PM

Quote - You might be able to use parts of this to make something http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/0/old-shed?item=8664&cat=&_m=d

 

yueah I got that and the other garden shack but they are both too small.

I am finding good stuff but it is either too big, more like a full size barn, or too small as in these two shacks at DAZ.


shante ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:27 PM

Quote -

Or somerhing like this!

 

This is the perfect size and shape, especially the roofed porch in front bu the door is too narrow. I wish the door jamb or door way ws wider, I could rig it up with my own door(s) bu it is too narrow, more like a regulr human doorway when I need something wider like a barn type doorway.


vintorix ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:36 PM

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Hmm, difficult case, what about this one, my own model? ;)

You could put some interesting stuff in the door..


vintorix ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:43 PM

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Or does it has to be a barn?

 


shante ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:45 PM

 The big doorway is perfect. The building itself would have to be shorter.  If I could have had this doorway on the first model of the shack you showed me I might have wet my pants with excitement it would have been so perfect. The cabin construction kits bt Transpond you showed me above are sweet but there is no big doorway on any of the construct options.


shante ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:47 PM · edited Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:48 PM

Quote -  

Or does it has to be a barn?

 

 

Cool brn but too big and it has to be rough wood built because it is old and found in New Mexico desert.


vintorix ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 3:50 PM

OK give me 5 minutes!


vintorix ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 4:02 PM

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It needs some staves to hold up the roof but that maybe you can fix that?


shante ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 7:08 PM

Oh jeese! Did you just make this? Actually I needed the doorway at the other end but I guess this is way more than I would have expected.

Nice...real nice. How did you make it so quick?

Did you make the first one you showed me too or was that frm one of the kits you directed me to? i love that one too? God I sound so darn greedy bu I haven't done anything creative in over a year. There were three deaths in my family within the first seven months of last year and I was hoping to get back into it and this porject, something I have ben thinking bout the whole time, was supposed to be something I was hoping would bring me back into the creative stream of life.

Where can I buy these and how much?


pakled ( ) posted Thu, 20 January 2011 at 11:32 PM

Just a guess, but the modeling isn't so hard as the texturing (at least for me).

I've seen a shed at Mapps (I currently stocking Poser 8 with my faves from Poser 5...;) and saw a shed there. Don't remember the details, but there should be a like to his site around here somewhere.

 

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vintorix ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 12:44 AM · edited Fri, 21 January 2011 at 12:51 AM

Attached Link: Forgotten farmhouse

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Ok I have shiftet the door to the side and added some staves to keep the roof up. Remember you must fiddle with the lights in Poser it looks horrible with standard light! And "drop to floor".

The first barn was from Bucharest_Village_Museum, I downloaded the ref from internet. The second (this one) was a picture by the 'master of old barns' hers at Renderosity, I am refering to - of course, tennesseecowgirl! Used with her permission of course. Actually she sent me the original photograph, 3547x1920 px, :)

You need not pay for such a trifle (but send a note to tennesseecowgirl )


shante ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 7:48 AM

looks great...from here and small. So this is a low res image then thus the need for care with lighting? I will need to do many close-up external and internal renders. Do you think it will hold up to that kind of use?


shante ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 7:52 AM

Quote - Just a guess, but the modeling isn't so hard as the texturing (at least for me).

I've seen a shed at Mapps (I currently stocking Poser 8 with my faves from Poser 5...;) and saw a shed there. Don't remember the details, but there should be a like to his site around here somewhere.

 

 

Where is MAPS?

Also have you had any difficulty putting Poser 5 stuff in poser 8 Runtime? Are you using same computer for the P8 Runtime as you did for Poser 5?

I am trying to put P4 into P7 but I want to streamline the P7 runtime folder to get rid of the native characters which I am not too thrilled with and eliminate all the contributing members' products subfolders.


vintorix ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 8:26 AM · edited Fri, 21 January 2011 at 8:40 AM

shante, "So this is a low res image then"

What do you mean do you call a UVmap of 2048x2048 lowres?

With light I mean only that the model is done outside Poser and you never know how it look like before you have actually imported it.

Perhaps you don't know how to add the UV texture in the material room? I can send you a Poser runtime if you want.

 

 

 

 


shante ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 1:53 PM

Quote - shante, "So this is a low res image then"

What do you mean do you call a UVmap of 2048x2048 lowres?

With light I mean only that the model is done outside Poser and you never know how it look like before you have actually imported it.

Perhaps you don't know how to add the UV texture in the material room? I can send you a Poser runtime if you want.

 

So sorry for confusion. I asked question this morning before I had a chance to DL and check the file. And no that is NOT low rez...thank you so very much. I uderstand what you meant by lighting in Poser. I will try and remember your warning.

Why what format is the model in? .obj, .3ds or Poser Prop?

 

Are the support posts you added to roof removable too? I would love to add them or something similar to the inside for interior renders and the old Poser generic straight props I know how to create and texture would not work. If these posts you added are loose or seperate props, I can add them as needed and texture them myself for interior renders or to add more to front to hold up roof.

Again, I feel so greedy asking but what about the cabin you showed me earlier (Not the kit). Is that also available? If so, I can use that for another part of the story as distance exterior shot.

Thank You Very Much For YOUR help and for making this wonderful prop for me. I look forward to working with it!

shante


vintorix ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 2:27 PM · edited Fri, 21 January 2011 at 2:35 PM

Attached Link: Forgotten_farmhouse (Sketchup )

shante, what are you trying to do? What I sent you was an OBJ file,  UV mapped with a high resolution texture. Depending of what you will do with it you may need more geometry and not only walls with texture. But as pakled said, it is the texturing part that takes time. The main part of the work is done!

Almost any modelling application can open OBJ files including Poser. Is Poser all that you have? In that case you must try to specify what you want so exatly as possible.

A better way would be to use the free program Google Sketchup. I have sent you a new link with the file converted to Sketchup format. Why don't you download the program and have a look!

Edit: Yes you can have my other model too if you want, but have you succeedeed importing to Poser with texture and all?


shante ( ) posted Fri, 21 January 2011 at 3:41 PM · edited Fri, 21 January 2011 at 3:44 PM

I am sorry...I am not trying to do anything except infoem myself. I ask questions so when I do work with something I cn figure out beter what to do. My mind is not a sharp as it used to be so questions, questions, questions are important fo me to get answers to...beofr I start to work so I can work better.

Please do not take personal or as criticism. I truly am VERY Grateful for whatever you have done and I am sure, judging from what I have seen and read this will work fine.

Still working on it. I got out from work late and have been communicating with other residents of my condo regarding some legal issues so have not had time to check or try the files you were kind enough to post for me. It is downloaded and I will try it tonight or this weekend. I am sorry. But I am sure they will import fine into Poser. I have worked with such files in the past without problem. THank you.

Or maybe I explain the story a bit:

The shack is abandoned in New Mexico Desert. It becomes a refuge for wild donkeys and burros who wanting to get shelter from heat and severe desert elements use it as needed. That is what I am trying to say with story and renders. So I need exteriors of shack from distance and up close as well as interiors of shack. That is why I ask so many questions and express so many needs in this model. I created an interior already using simple Poser props but it is difficult to move around the interior and maintain a decent consistancy to the look of the interior when I have to move this wall or that prop around all the time to get the right camera angles. Of course this does not allow me to do exterior renders because I have no shack model before for that. I figured if the thing was built to as close to what my needs are it will be easier to render this story. That is why I have been so darn fussy. Since I have already rendered several interior shots using the simple Poser pro p method and didn't want to redo them I tried to find something that looked like my building interior looked. THat is also why I have been so fussy. I am sorry I didn't explan.

I know I sounded greedy but I had a reason and now you know. If I found it Beautiful. If not I go back to doing it the way I have been so far and struggle with it to the best of my ability, with simple textured props.

 

Oh, by the way, yes Poser is all I have to work with now.

:)


shante ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 1:52 AM

OK Vintorix, I did a quick render of the cabin. Please keep in mind that though i got really proficient with the old Poser 4 methodology going to Poser 7 was too an abrupt change for me and I am a bit frustated with the interface. It is proving a freaking nightmare in fact to where  I gotta say I hate the interface right now. It is no longer smooth and easy for me and too convoluted in the way you work with materials and apply simple textures for my tastes.

With that said though the render sucks, it gives some idea of how the shack rendered. First of all I had to enlarge it 500% which I thought odd. I was concerned that enlarging that much it would affect the image but it seemed to hold up though very dark and since I didn't render it large so there is no way of seeing how it works at the size and resoluition I will need to render it yet.

I was hoping the posts holding up the porch roof and the roof of the cabin would be uv'd seperately from the walls so I could texture them alone differently and I was also hoping the posts were seperate mesh so I could add more to the building as needed. The posts you added seem wor and bent or uneven where the Poser 7 primitives I will be winding up with are too straight and sharp edged..look too new. I will need to find some wood posts that are not so perfectly straight and new loking.

for the texture, I am going to bring the textures into photoshop and see if I can perform a little recoloring magic since the wood in the desert sun would be bleached much lighter to a paler tan gray perhaps. This texture with the cabin is from a much weter climate zone and too dark/wet/moldy looking as is to be believable in desert climate.

I added some Poser primitives for door frames to add some realism and thickness appearance to the flat plaed wall and threw together two doors real quick and dirty to get some idea of what it looked like with doors in place. Of course it will be different when I get better textures from my full Runtime from Poser 4 transfered to Poser 7 on this computer (I have many more texturing possibilities there I just don't have here as well as a larger variety of ground props to make the render look better but for the purpose of showing how your cabin looked this served the purpose for now.

Are you still willing to also give me the other cabin you showed me above?


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 3:51 AM

Attached Link: Forgotten farmhouse

shante,

ok, I didn't knew you were new to Poser 7. I have imported everything into a new Poser file with all pieces seperate so you can change or texture as you want. Sorry for being so stupid. I shall send the other too I just have to do some chores first!

 

 

 


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 4:09 AM

I need to finish my shack one day.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 4:38 AM

ShawnDriscoll,

Why don't you show us what you got? Mine were also only half done...

 


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:04 AM

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My shack is going to be next to these things.  Part of an old factory setting.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:07 AM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:11 AM

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And part of a mine elevator thing.  I figure if I make these objects for Poser, they will also work in Vue (if people have Vue also).

You know what? I'm going to stop work on my other projects (too many and I'm spread too thin), and just work on this one scene until it's done.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:14 AM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:14 AM

Looks fine. Old buildings are perfect for science fiction scenes! Poser models can be used in Vue but Vue models can't be used in Poser. I see you are like me, having tons of half-finished works lying around..;)


shante ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:16 AM

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> Quote - shante, > > ok, I didn't knew you were new to Poser 7. I have imported everything into a new Poser file with all pieces seperate so you can change or texture as you want. Sorry for being so stupid. I shall send the other too I just have to do some chores first! > >   > >   > >  

 

Oh no...you not stupid. I did not give all information and I forgot to post render so I am stupid. Here you find render...it is stupid but it show a little what I did so far. Much work yet. I hate Poser 7!


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:22 AM

 

I am glad to see you are coming along. Yes I am stupid, I put the door on the wrong side again..but you are fixing things anyway.


shante ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:24 AM

Quote - shante,

ok, I didn't knew you were new to Poser 7. I have imported everything into a new Poser file with all pieces seperate so you can change or texture as you want. Sorry for being so stupid. I shall send the other too I just have to do some chores first!

 

Ok I opened the .pz3 file and first it is wrong building. Door on wrong side. Second texture all messed up on roof and such. Looks distorted or something.


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:30 AM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 5:31 AM

I find that using Bing street level views of old factory blocks are great references to work from and get modeling ideas from.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 6:01 AM

 

Thak for the tips! I try that immidealty! :)

 


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 6:15 AM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 6:16 AM

 "Second texture all messed up on roof and such. Looks distorted or something."

shante I made this half- finished models for six months ago, I just saw that the other barn also show this strange behavior. They UVmapper texture look ok in all other programs, except in Poser. I have some detective work to do. (Regardsless of you I need to understand what is wrong).

As is it so long time since I did this I don't remember exatly what I did so I have to recreate all. I mail you.


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 6:16 AM

Downtown Detroit has burned out boarded up houses that look like they are a hundred years old.  Lots of slum.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 7:13 AM

 

It is gefundenes Fressen!

 


vintorix ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 7:20 AM

shante,

I have sent you the 2 models in Poser format with mail. When I imported ín 3ds format there was no problem. Obviously Poser have some secrets still!


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 10:00 AM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 10:09 AM

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



shante ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 11:40 AM

Quote - Something like these?

http://www.sharecg.com/v/39235/related/3D-Model/Old-Barn

http://www.sharecg.com/v/39299/3D-Model/Old-shed/11

http://www.sharecg.com/v/24520/gallery/Poser/Little-Cottage

Hi Acadia

thanks for the links. I was at ShareCG and trid their search engine to find such models and these 3 did not come up. I wonder what else did not come up?  :(

They look very nice. Have you used these?

Old-Barn is nice and nice textures too. I wish there were more views included to see from many angles because view offered does not show much of what I need.

And

I wondered if Old-Shed has a UV Map so I can try and texture myself since it doesn not have textures included?

And

I wonder for Little Cottage if the railing ramp can be made invisible or removed since I do not need it all?


Acadia ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 12:02 PM

I searched for the following:

 

shed

building

barn

house

I haven't used any of them.  But you can make a texture map with UV Mapper. It's free.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



shante ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 4:04 PM · edited Sun, 23 January 2011 at 4:06 PM

Yeah, those are the excact same search criteria I used but never got the links for these models. I did get others ok but not these.

I am on a Mac running Mac OS 0.6x (SnowLeopard) and I was lead to believe that the old dummied down version of UV Mapper for Macs no longer works with newer Mac OS.

Even the older version for Mac users left a lot to be desired and never really had good luck with it. Always had to beg friends on Windows machines to do the uv mapping the right way to get anything done.

If it already comes with a high res uv map template and is labeled so I can figure it what part is what, I could dummy up some of my own textures otherwise....... :(


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 23 January 2011 at 4:20 PM

Webshots is another great source for ref images of barns.

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


ShawnDriscoll ( ) posted Sun, 30 January 2011 at 12:03 AM

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An update on the shack.  I'm not even sure what I'm modeling, or what this thing really is.  Anyone live near one of these that hasn't been torn down yet?

www.youtube.com/user/ShawnDriscollCG


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