Sometimes when I apply a preset pose to a character, the character will move into the right pose but her conforming hair and clothes stay behind. I just have to move the camera, the character or a clothing item a bit and everything snaps into place.

I think, although I'm not certain, that this happens after I accidently try to apply a pose to something other than the character. Once the outfit quits conforming as it should, the problem is pretty presistent.

So two questions. What's going on with the conforming items not conforming? What happens when I try to apply a pose or a material to something that it was not intended for? Does a lot of garbage get written to the file, and does a Ctrl/Z undo it cleanly?

My guess it is the refresh of your graphics card trying to keep up with the activity in your Pose room. Had that happen a lot with P7 and my old system, and it all disappeared when I went to a new graphics card, etc.

Might be wrong and the cause is something else. At worst it was annoying, but nothing had actually really changed... clothing was still conforming, just the graphics card took a while to figure it out.

This happens to me in Poser 8+ as well, sometimes.  I don't think it's a big deal because (as you discovered) you can just twitch the camera and undo and it's fine.

Quote - What happens when I try to apply a pose or a material to something that it was not intended for? Does a lot of garbage get written to the file, and does a Ctrl/Z undo it cleanly?

If it's a MAT pose (a pose that changes one or more materials) yes it will write garbage into the file.  I don't know if Ctrl-Z removes it cleanly, I just don't use MAT poses any more for this reason.  As far as joint rotation/translation poses, those won't do any harm if they try to affect bones that aren't present in the target figure.

everything that happens in Poser just affects memory. Thats my understanding anyway.

An undo should put everything back the way it was.

Well oops, I should have said "it will write garbage into the file if you save it".

Well, we can assume that the file itself doesn't get modified until you save to it. I'm a little skeptical that Ctrl-Z does everything it's suppose to simply because of my own experiences, but I can't say for sure.

Hi

Indirectly related- I always go to "memorize all" before I start playing with poses. I find that sometimes "undo" does not always undo everything that changed.

You don't say which version you are using. Poser 7 sometimes acts a little wanky after viewing FLASH files (in Internet Explorer at least). Minimize the program and hit your space bar and then go back into Poser.  Sometimes that fixes things.  I’m finding Poser 7 doesn’t like being left alone on the desktop for long periods of in-activity.  Again, minimize the program and maximizing again seems to fix the problem.

Does your problem occur with all conforming figures or is it a certain set?  Might be a problem with the actual figures … Might be too the pose file is corrupt or missing some information.

I suggest trying to minimize/maximize the program window BEFORE doing an undo.

Best Wishes,
Rªnce

PS: drinking a little Scotch tonight so you may wish to completely disregard my reply

OK. I think I have the definitive answer to the problem of conforming clothes being left behind.

A pose file (*.pz2) should always end with this:

figure
**    {**
**    }**

This is what reconnects the conformed figures to the one being posed. Any pose file that doesn't have that will leave the dear girl's clothes behind.

Sometimes pose files will have up to three sets of these "figure" lines like this:

figure
**    {**
**    }**
}
{

version
**    {**
**    number 6**
**    }**

thighLength 0.188311

figure
**    {**
**    }**
}

In those cases I suspect that whatever software is being used to save the pose is screwing up. By the way, the thighLength line seems to be critical but no one knows why.

thigh length is I believe used for Universal poses. Two sections should be present in most poses but dont ask me why.

If a conformer goes wonky, I just reconform it to the figure, or if really bad , conform to nothing then conform to the figure again.