Hi guys.

Vue9 xStream Cinema4d r12

I'm trying to render a short animation in GR mode, but the GR/GI solution flicker a lot, mostly in foreground objects (terrains) that are back-light. I'm not very skilled in Vue, and not at all with animations in Vue. So I tryed to boost both "light/Quality boost/+4" and "Sky, Fog and Haze/Global settings/Quality boost/+4". The frame render time jumped from 7'40" to 53'28", less flicker (GI splotches are smaller, but still jump from frame to frame) but enough to make the animation unusable :(

Is ther something I should know about GR animations modes in Vue9?

I'm with the "Final" preset only. Should I push to Broadcast, or even further? Or how do I personnalise the settings?

Should I check the "re-use indirect lighting" for animations?

Enable the G-Buffer?

Are the Final Gather options for Maya/Mental Ray, or does Vue uses Final Gather? (we don't have FG in c4d). Do I have to settup this things if I only have vue objects in the scene?

Any help will be very appreciated, thanks :)

I allready reply to myself, but any comment would still be much appreciated.

So.
I re-lowered the quality boost sliders to default zero, and checked the re-use light box, and the second frame started rendering after 18'15".

From what I can see, the GR solution seems to be stable ! =D

Have to leave soon from my place, I'll leave the render go and see after work how it went tonight.

Hope it goes ok, I dont do hardly any animation so wont be of much help here, but there are lots of helpful people on here so hopefully if you have any more issues someone will be able to help :)

Jon

Thanks you Jonj1611.

Yes it's perfectly stable now. Arround 17mn per frame in HD 1280x720@25fps, on a 16T macpro.

But I think I was in "preview mode" within Vue, wich explain the GR splotches.

Since I went in "Final", looks stable. How stoopid am I? ^^

I'll most certainly have to do more testing before finding all the good settups, but for now it is OK. :)

C-Ya :)

I dont think Final adds Motion Blur ? So your animation may well look quite "jerky" when you come to play it mate.

Regards

Jon

Yes indeed, a bit jerky. I thought MB might be faster in post (after effects) ?

Never tested it within vue. Sure it must remove lotof flicking in vast trees scenes. I should try it, thanks for advice. Is it fast? I mean, afaic, it preety much sucks in c4d AR3, (VMB isn't always enough, SMB sucks : x20 times); it's very fast with Vray (for example, for a 20mn frame, MB takes 30 secondes). Wonder how Vue handles it?

I'm actually testing a frame with more antialisaing in textures and damn! Renedertimes triple! Mmm, or is it because of the 50 trees I added?

haha I feel so noob in vue ^^

I wouldnt exactly call it fast to be honest, you are probably better off playing with the render settings yourself than using the pre-set ones.

Yeah more anti-aliasing will increase the render times dramatically, if you can find the link on here or just search the forum for silverblade, he has loads of tutorials for things like that :)

Jon

Here it is :-

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/

Jon

Thank you very much for your valuable feedbacks Jon! :) I mostdef check the MB and the personnalised Render settings then, and your link ! Time to sleep here . C ya!

No worries mate :)

Jon

Adding MB in AE is iffy, I get mixed results. I use Real Smart Motion Blur and still it blurs the background with the object unless you do an alpha. Unfortunately most people on Renderosity don't do animation so sometimes you have to look at Cornucopia 3D or Geekatplay to get more animation advice.  Tweeking the blur length in the camera properties and using as few passes in the Hybred 2.5D blur is where you will find your sweet spot.

Another thing I do is that I always render to image files so that at differant points in the animation I can tweak the blur settings and resume from that point on if say things arn't moving as much in one point or the other. I do this for other things besides the blur to keep my render times resonable.

I just cut down a 45 hour render to 9 hours by doing this and the animation looks just as good. This render had reflections in the beginning of the animation and once the camera moved to a point past the reflective materials I stopped the animation, turned off the some of the unnecessary settings and resumed.