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Subject: Has anybody tried viewing 3D stereo Poser images on a 3D HDTV?


gagnonrich ( ) posted Fri, 01 April 2011 at 3:45 PM · edited Thu, 21 November 2024 at 5:29 PM

Attached Link: http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play.html

Some new computers already come with the NVIDIA 3D Play software and it's also separately available for purchase. This will play most 3D games in 3D on an HDTV. I haven't picked up a 3D HDTV yet, but have an old shutter glasses system that worked very well on a PC system with most games. This does not require that the games be specifically designed for 3D glasses--just that they be DirectX games that are generating 3D spatial information within the gameplay. I've used the old glasses to walk through Quake in stereo 3D.

I was wondering if anybody has played around with trying to create stereo Poser images and displaying them on a 3D HDTV.

Below is an alternate article showing how to do it with other software. I don't believe the glasses kit they're selling has to be purchased unless somebody bought a 3D reaty TV without the glasses.

http://www.3dflightsim.com/articles/HDTVisHERE_p3.htm#free_sw

My visual indexes of Poser content are at http://www.sharecg.com/pf/rgagnon


Dave-So ( ) posted Fri, 01 April 2011 at 5:41 PM

i can't even afford the glasses, but cool

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FightingWolf ( ) posted Fri, 01 April 2011 at 10:04 PM

It can't be any worst than the anaglph glasses.  In all reality it should be better since there wouldn't be a color loss.  I plan on trying it in a few months or so.  I'm still trying to gauge the market to see if this 3D stuff is really going to take off and be sustainable.



Allstereo ( ) posted Mon, 04 April 2011 at 5:20 PM

Hello,

   For the Panasonic and probably LG models, apparently it is possible to display the stereoscopic images that are converted to the MPO format. MPO format is used by Fuji sterep camera W1 and W3. To convert your stereo images made in Poser (you can use my Python Script available in the freestuff section to generate the two images) to the MPO format, you can used the free program StereoPhoto Maker. Then you save this file on SD card to be play on the TV. Because I don't have a 3DTV, I have not tested myself the procedure. If you have access to a Panasonic 3DTV, just try before. If you have another TV model (Samsung), you have to use a computer connected to the TV via the HDMI 1.4 cable. A player program such as Stereoscopic player.

Here are some links:

My script http://market.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=62715

Stereo Photo Maker http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/

   


gagnonrich ( ) posted Tue, 05 April 2011 at 12:51 PM

Quote - It can't be any worst than the anaglph glasses.  In all reality it should be better since there wouldn't be a color loss.  I plan on trying it in a few months or so.  I'm still trying to gauge the market to see if this 3D stuff is really going to take off and be sustainable.

3D HDTV provides about the same experience as watching a 3D movie in a theater. It's much better than anaglyph. Most stores selling the sets have a demo that you can watch (BestBuy and BJs in America). 3D HDTV ought to have a brighter picture. Theaters use polarized glasses for the 3D effect and that halves the light each eye sees. 3D HDTV shuts one glass rapidly one after the other and the higher refresh rate is essentially providing the original brightness for each eye.

In the end, I'd expect all HDTVs to eventually be 3D capable regardless of whether or not 3D movies last for the long haul. It's strictly a matter of having a faster refresh rate. The next Playstation will probably be 3D and that will provide far more content than just movies for 3D viewing.

My visual indexes of Poser content are at http://www.sharecg.com/pf/rgagnon


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 05 April 2011 at 3:02 PM

also have no 3dtv, but could go into video store and plug in an usb drive before they try to stop me.  they usually let me do anything I want, but maybe this time it shouldn't be a nudie pic.



gagnonrich ( ) posted Tue, 05 April 2011 at 4:20 PM

When I decide to get a new HDTV, I'll probably go 3D, but that will be years from now. 

I was just figuring that a Poser audience would more likely buy a 3D HDTV than the general public. Being able to display Poser images in full 3D would be a nice plus on a big widescreen TV.

Dell is selling a 3D laptop for $900, so it might be a reason for me to puchase another laptop one of these days.

My visual indexes of Poser content are at http://www.sharecg.com/pf/rgagnon


dorkmcgork ( ) posted Tue, 05 April 2011 at 11:54 PM

Quote - When I decide to get a new HDTV, I'll probably go 3D, but that will be years from now. 

I was just figuring that a Poser audience would more likely buy a 3D HDTV than the general public. Being able to display Poser images in full 3D would be a nice plus on a big widescreen TV.

Dell is selling a 3D laptop for $900, so it might be a reason for me to puchase another laptop one of these days.

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yeah i want to try to display them too

i didn't know about the laptop that is extremely killer

 

 

man!  imagine if the poser window could be seen in 3d in realtime!  then we would genuinely be sculpting.

go that way really fast.
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hborre ( ) posted Wed, 06 April 2011 at 11:58 AM

The downside to 3D visual development is how the human brain will interpret and respond to those images without becoming ill.  Studies are now surfacing that long term 3D watching can make you ill.  No telling what it would do if you are mildly epileptic.


Allstereo ( ) posted Wed, 06 April 2011 at 9:41 PM

Hello,

    I would like to see these studies. Stereoscopic vision is normal.


Boni ( ) posted Thu, 07 April 2011 at 11:16 AM

Alas ... stereoscoptic vision may be normal ... but there are those of us out  here who are not.  I only see out of one eye and I hope that 3d tv does not become so  ... normal that that is all that is available.  But that is purely for personal, selfish reasons.

Boni

Boni



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hborre ( ) posted Thu, 07 April 2011 at 11:37 AM

Stereoscopic vision, in deed, is normal, and I also lack this perception.  However, it is the delivery of these projected signals which concern many as more of these sets are produced.  Almost 1 year ago, Samsung released a warning on their site cautioning consumers to limit themselves to long term 3D viewing.  Quoting their official press release:

If you experience any of the following symptoms, immediately stop watching 3D pictures and consult a medical specialist: (1) altered vision; (2) lightheadedness; (3) dizziness; (4) involuntary movements such as eye or muscle twitching; (5) confusion; (6) nausea; (7) loss of awareness; (8) convulsions; (9) cramps; and/or (10) disorientation. Parents should monitor and ask their children about the above symptoms as children and teenagers may be more likely to experience these symptoms than adults.

Many reports began to surface 1 year ago, but conclusive studies do take time to conduct and analyze.  The jury may still be out deliberating the overall hazard to 3D viewing, but there are genuine concerns which cannot be ignored, especially if there are hidden pre-existing health conditions.


ToxicWolf ( ) posted Wed, 27 April 2011 at 1:23 PM · edited Wed, 27 April 2011 at 1:24 PM

I tried making an anaglyph poser image.  If you have a pair of anaglyph glasses, could you please take a look at this and tell me if you can see it okay.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=2195932&section_id=&genre_id=&np

Poser Pro 2012 SR3

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit

Intel Core I7 990x 3.46G 6 core

24G RAM

EVGA GTX580 R Video Card

Single HP LP2475 1920x1200 monitor

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http://www.toxicwolf.com


cspear ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2011 at 8:25 AM

The shortcomings and potential problems of 3D TV / Cinema are easily explained and understood.

When we focus on an object in the real world, two things happen:

  1. the lenses in our eyes change shape to focus the object on our retinas

  2. our eyes swivel in their sockets, converging on the object to see it clearly: the closer it is, the more they converge

But when viewing 3D TV / Cinema our eyes have to remain focused on the physical surface of the screen, otherwise things would be, well, out of focus; but they have to converge / diverge in the virtual 3D space onto whichever object is of interest.

It's mildly amazing that they can accommodate this unnatural requirement at all, but it is hardly surprising that people experience headaches, eyestrain, madness, diaorrhea, etc. after prolonged bouts of 3D viewing.

Me, I'm gonna wait for holographic systems to get here.


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Tguyus ( ) posted Thu, 28 April 2011 at 10:42 AM

I rigged up a dual PC monitor system with a front surface mirror between them.  The equipment is positioned so I can look past the front edge of the mirror to see the right monitor directly.  My left eye sees the left monitor in the reflection of the mirror.  I generate two images in Poser, each one rendered with the Poser camera in left eye then right eye position.  You have to flip the left monitor image and position the monitors and mirror fairly precisely.  But if you do it right, you see a perfect full screen 3D image with no anaglyph false colors, no size constraints imposed by spllit screen stereoscopic images on one screen, and no expensive 3D TV or monitor equipment.  All you need is a second monitor identical to the first and a graphics card which will run two monitors (unless you want to put the images on twin PCs with separate monitors).  I've generated animated 3D clips this way and the results are amazing.  I had all the equipment around except the front surface mirror, which cost about $35.

Here's a link to the concept with instructions: 

http://www.crystalcanyons.net/abouts/3dc9_DualMonitorComplete.shtm


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