Ahhh.... that looks good BE!!!! I like the shimmer on her skin a lot.

I am working on a solution featuring a master dial 'MDAvatar', in Antonia's body actor, with input value 1.0 causing the figure to be in MD fitting pose whilst the rotation channels are zero. This would provide a solution for dynamic clothing.

Now THAT would be a handy tool!!

Attached Link: Wading

That little black dress is fabulous!

how do you like this hair for her?

It is a new one for me but I just had to have it when I saw it...lol.

I think the hair is perfect for her (and the color goes very well with the skin color). I've added it to my wishlist!

It is easy to adjust for Antonia and looks perfect on her. :)

It has a lot of options and can even be used on the male models...I love it!

Playtime is over, so it's back to  real life and my 3d work. lol.

Beautiful!

Nice hair!

spend all my week-end to play with my evening dress, i am not 100% happy and think to rework some parts, the pic is a WIP i need to correct some obvious flaws and fine tune many things.

a vietnamese Ao Dai, two piece outfit

This Might have been asked already, but 342 pages is a lot to slog through. How tall is  Antonia on the Poser scale compared to P8 Alyson and V4?

Attached Link: Scale of Models in Poser

Using the scale that seems most sensible to me (i.e. not Poser's built-in scale), Antonia is 1.7 metres tall, or a little over 5' 7" as opposed to Victoria 4's 1.79m / 5 feet 10 and a half. Alyson I don't know about.

@rjjakck: These are going to be fabulous.

I love the way the LBD is so easy to use and next I want to try the long gown.

Quote - It depends what scale you use.

Using the scale that seems most sensible to me (i.e. not Poser's built-in scale), Antonia is 1.7 metres tall, or a little over 5' 7" as opposed to Victoria 4's 1.79m / 5 feet 10 and a half. Alyson I don't know about.

Thanks, Bob. I still don't know how Tall Alyson is supposed to be, but I loaded her up next to Olivia G2 and she's definitely shorter. But why did you measure V4 and S4 standing on their tip toes?

Quote - It depends what scale you use.

Using the scale that seems most sensible to me (i.e. not Poser's built-in scale), Antonia is 1.7 metres tall, or a little over 5' 7" as opposed to Victoria 4's 1.79m / 5 feet 10 and a half. Alyson I don't know about.

Thanks for that link! I never knew about Kez! Morphograpy.uk's figure. Nabbed!

Quote - But why did you measure V4 and S4 standing on their tip toes?

I didn't - V4 and M4's basic meshes are modelled on tiptoe, so I had to pose them and S4 to get a proper flat-footed measurement. For other figures, I measured their mesh without any posing involved since their feet are already flat.

I think I must have done something similar with Antonia, since her basic pose is with her legs splayed, which would reduce her height. I forgot to make a note of it though, so I should check that I did what I think I did before I get much further.

Quote - I never knew about Kez! Morphograpy.uk's figure.

Kirwyn's figure, to give proper credit. I wasn't clear if you were thinking I made Kez. I didn't - I'm just a happy host. :)

Yes yes, of course, just as Antonia is ODF's figure but she's known also as a Renderosity figure because this is her home.

Quote - How tall is  Antonia on the Poser scale compared to P8 Alyson and V4?

The question is not as simple to answer as you might think (or is it just me, making it more complex than in needs to be?).

I addressed the question of Antonia's hight in a couple of posts a few pages back, see the links below.

Antonia's Hight, and how to change it.

How to scale props to match Antonia's hight.

The value I get for Antonia's hight is:

0.699620 PNU
6' 0.2008"
72.2008 Inches
1833.9 mm
1.8339 Meters

The values for inches and mm are as given by P6 (rounded out for the last decimal place).

The value you get depends on how you take the measurement. My measurement is what you get if you load Antonia and measure the altitude of the top of the head without doing anything else to Antonia.

I measured V4's hight, though not with the same exactitude I used for Antonia. Here is the value I got with V4 in a zero pose, except for the feet, which were posed flat on the floor:

0.733620 PNU
75.709586 Inches
1923.023424 mm
1.923024 Meters

A bit of a confession: whilst I've pretty much downloaded every item known to be part of this product and even installing Antonia into her own runtime, I haven't really done all that much with her: programming in matmatic Python and more recently dynamic cloth explorations have taken all my time and energy ... not that there's limitless time an energy at my disposal.

But, now that SaintFox has put her incredibly compelling resource kit for Antonia on special, that's it: broke down and got it. No more excuses! Now I'll find out what all the fuss (fun!) is about.

Welcome abord RobynsVeil!

Quote - @rjjakck: These are going to be fabulous.

I love the way the LBD is so easy to use and next I want to try the long gown.

they are fun but more challenging to use than the LBD, currently they are on hold until my current work is finished.

the long gown is already on the antonia site but i am not happy with her, so i am working on a version 2, currently i have made these changes :

can be used from the Antonia zero pose, she don't need a special pose anymore
bottom is larger and train a little longer
bodice is redesigned and more fit to the body

ETA : this week-end if i can get enough free time

Is there anything like an Antonia Complete package out there? Maybe someone could put one together? A freebie zip file with everything you need to get Antonia up and rendering? Just a thought.

Quote - Is there anything like an Antonia Complete package out there? Maybe someone could put one together? A freebie zip file with everything you need to get Antonia up and rendering? Just a thought.

no complete package so far but below is my suggestion for it, Antonia, a texture set, some morphs and a set of poses, enough to be started

Antonia-1-2-0

http://www.antonia.bluecho4u3d.com/database/sites/base_figure.htm

Anna_for_Antonia

http://www.antonia.bluecho4u3d.com/database/sites/character_sets.htm

SF-DL-Toni-Polgon-Base-Texture
Toni_Polygon_MakeUp_Expansion
Toni-PolygonforDAZStudio

http://www.antonia.bluecho4u3d.com/database/sites/character_texture_sets.htm

Antonias_Assorted_Poses_Vol_1 - 5
APUtilityPoses1_2_0

http://www.antonia.bluecho4u3d.com/database/sites/poses.htm

Antonia-1_2_FBMs_by_Jules53757
Antonia-1_2_FBMs_by_patorak3D

http://www.antonia.bluecho4u3d.com/database/sites/morphs.htm

Theoretically this could be done, creating a little Antonia Bundle. But on the other hand I wouldn't want to be the one to decide what is essential and what is an extra - no, really not! I mean: As I have a penchant for nudes and half-nudes I think that it is able to live without Les' "Dial-a-nipple"... but in fact this would be pure existance, not really a life :laugh: And (thanks for the nice words, RobynsVeil!!) not having sazzyazzca's makeup templates as a texturer will end in endless experiments to get those darn liners right. And so on, and so on... So each one has his own focus depending on what he wants to create.

@rjjack: The render with the icescater is a little wonder - it belongs into the gallery!!

...and I know that I owe you a pm but my computer decided to refuse working and needed a reinstall of the OS (the first after five years so I am not complaining too much). In other words: I am far behind.

Quote - @rjjack: The render with the icescater is a little wonder - it belongs into the gallery!!

...and I know that I owe you a pm but my computer decided to refuse working and needed a reinstall of the OS (the first after five years so I am not complaining too much). In other words: I am far behind.

once i work on the outfit, i have saved the scene and can do something far better than this quickie

APG's Resource kit from Saintfox and Digital Lion is wonderful to work with. :)

And I might get some more sets done if real life would give me a little more time...sigh.

The silver texture is coming alonf fine but I ran into one little barrier...getting the genital area to blend with the torso without a seam...ugh.

Quote - Theoretically this could be done, creating a little Antonia Bundle. But on the other hand I wouldn't want to be the one to decide what is essential and what is an extra - no, really not! I mean: As I have a penchant for nudes and half-nudes I think that it is able to live without Les' "Dial-a-nipple"... but in fact this would be pure existance, not really a life :laugh: And (thanks for the nice words, RobynsVeil!!) not having sazzyazzca's makeup templates as a texturer will end in endless experiments to get those darn liners right. And so on, and so on... So each one has his own focus depending on what he wants to create.

EClark1894 was asking for a starter kit and by definition this is something to start, targeted to the newcomer who want to discover Antonia but don't know exactly which package they need to download to have something working, the seasoned users know what they need.

IMO the starter kit is a good idea and we it need to help the newcomers to start with Antonia

Or at worst, several text files with various starter kit suggestions, with information on where the various bits can be obtained.

That would let everyone interested state their opinion on the "optimum" starter kit, and give the neophyte several suggestions to choose from.  We know there is no starter kit that everyone would agree on, but there's no need for anyone to feel slighted that their idea wasn't used . . .

A starter package is a good idea but it would need to be kept a reasonable size.

As for putting the "Anna" texture in it, isn't that one of SaintFox's retail sets?

Maybe her free texture could go in and if someone wants to get a package together, they can add the free Nana Mae set too.

On another note:My silver set is coming along nicely now that I found why I had the seam issue, and should be ready for testing in a week or so.

I'll post to let everyone know when I get it to the testing phase. :)

Anna is just a morph set and comes without textures. Toni Polygon (and, if desired, the Makeup add-on) are the textures.

....again I am getting no ebots - but for no thread add all I answered to!

Attached Link: Silver and Gold

I started playing with shaders and my silver texture and created a gold one too. :)

If you'd like to see an image of Antonia with both textures,  follow the link.

Quote - Or at worst, several text files with various starter kit suggestions, with information on where the various bits can be obtained.

That would let everyone interested state their opinion on the "optimum" starter kit, and give the neophyte several suggestions to choose from.  We know there is no starter kit that everyone would agree on, but there's no need for anyone to feel slighted that their idea wasn't used . . .

Well Thalek had a great idea. In lieu of a starter kit. How about a "Basic Starter kit" file. What you would need to have and where you can download it. It might be nice if the mods would Sticky it too!

On he last days of my leave I finally got round to purchasing&instaling Wardrobe wizard support for Antonia. She runing around now playing pick and choose from the other girl's closets, LOL!

I had a good laugh about this bagoas - indeed it feels a bit like little sisters robbing from the closets of their sisters and then this feeling: All for free, all for free!

Yup! And her grandmother's! (that is a worthy title for Posette, I think). Amazing stuff mothballed there.

Okay, so I got rid of all my Antonia files and started redownloading them and reinstalling them with an eye to what I need at minimum to get up and rendering.

So far, I downloaded the Base figure file which has four Antonia object files. This confused me a bit. Okay so I get the point of the lo resolution figure. But Why the different v120 and v120A versions?

I also couldn't find a texture file that said it was for the v.120 figure, but I found two files for the v.120A and downloaded that. So while my v.120 figure is still textureless, the v.120A file isn't.

Also found some poses and templates that work. Also some head morphs.

Fortunately all the files I've downloaded so far can be found on Blue echo's site.

Quote - But Why the different v120 and v120A versions?

Unless stated otherwise, textures are for Antonia1.2 (without 'A').

The 'A' versions are the original rather unconventinal mapping, featuring the bust, shoulders, arms and upper end of the back as one continuous, sort of 'poncho' shape.

Wouldn't it be simpler to just get rid of the 1.2A version then and just deal with the 1.2 version?  I thought the 1.2A version was the latest one.

Some of the textures won't work on the latest set.

A few of my texture sets were made for the first release and I haven't converted them as yet.

Likewise there are some morphs that haven't been converted for the latest release.

That is why the earlier releases are still around. :)

Many people said that they like the mapping of the A (the older) version better - and many liked the new mapping better. As Antonia is a community project and a kind of experimenting platform, too, we decided to keep both.

Let's see if I can help you out....

These are for the new mapping (the standard without an A)

Nana Mae

Toni Polygon and Toni Polygon Makeup (an add-on)

For more variety I would recommend sazzyazzca's ethnic head morphs and 3Dream's headmorph

(I confess that I am not sure if the other head morphs on the freebie site still work)

Then, as said, pick up "Dial-a-nipple", it still works with the most recent version of Antonia and makes it easy to alter the appearence of the breast.

The bodymorphs by Jules and patorak are a must have - and maybe someone helps me out and points me to  more morphs working with the actual version?

If you want poses: All the "Assorted poses" I've uploaded here and at the freebie site work with Antonia 1.2

Clothes: At least all the dynamic clothes work with any version. The little black dress by rjjack contains a how-to and poses helping you to fit a commercial set of Hi heeled pumps (those by Ali for Angela).

Okay, I did it - that's what I think is essential to get started and to have some variety and fun from the first try and for weeks. And I am sure that I forgot things (and that's what I wanted to avoid...)

So be sure to check out this section as well:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/index.php?section_id=452&

Here you'll find additional hair fits, morphs, clothes and so on.

the skin is an experiment with the living doll from SaintFox, i have no experience in texturing and tried to make a gothic doll, but the recipe failed, too much milk and not enough cocoa :biggrin:

Quote - > Quote - Or at worst, several text files with various starter kit suggestions, with information on where the various bits can be obtained.

That would let everyone interested state their opinion on the "optimum" starter kit, and give the neophyte several suggestions to choose from.  We know there is no starter kit that everyone would agree on, but there's no need for anyone to feel slighted that their idea wasn't used . . .

 

Well Thalek had a great idea. In lieu of a starter kit. How about a "Basic Starter kit" file. What you would need to have and where you can download it. It might be nice if the mods would Sticky it too!

I'm glad to have been useful.  I don't normally contribute much to the community except for talk, so I'm grateful it's at least useful talk.  [grin]

That's a very nice dress, rjjack. As for texturing and paler skin: If you are not (very) experienced you might get seams when color-shifting textures. So maybe you want to try VSS? Just apply the Toni Polygon texture, change the textures (bump and color texture, in some places transparencies) against those you've made (not colorshifted) and change the color of the "tint" node (all on the left)?

You may as well look here:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2737823&page=33#message_3295614

and look for examples by bagginsbill with his Vargas-Shader (available here, together with the Albino Shader):

http://sites.google.com/site/bagginsbill/free-stuff/random-shaders

If the shader looks puzzeling: I swear that it's not that complicated as only few nodes hold textures and only these need to be changed (as long as you are not in an experimenting mood, of course you can do far more with them).

This way you can alter the appearance of the skin without touching the seams!

I've been having fun with the Living Doll textures this weekend as well (when I got 5 minutes at the computer - my niece's birthday sort-of took centre-stage). Only thing is the eyes: I can't seem to figure out how the eye textures are meant to work. For the iris, I've got pupil, iris and schlera texture all in that region. I've tried to find a reference to it here in the thread - daunting task! - and on the wiki... but somehow I'm missing those instructions.

Could anyone direct me, please? :blink: Thank you so much (in advance)

Give me a moment, I will post what I have in the material room for those parts.

So what you need is only one eyetexture containing iris and eyewhite (I've added the pupil to the Living Doll set to fake a natural, uneven look) and, if desired (and recommended) a bump map of the sclera only.

Thank you, Mieke - vielen Dank! - that was extremely helpful! This information on texturing the eyes needs to be in the wiki, I reckon...