Thanks bagoas, I'll do that.

I like these shoes!

Thanks BuEcho - I find that style very comfortable myself, so I thought Antonia should have some too!

Elegant sense of style, Nanette. Practical, yet comfortable. Antonia is going directions I really like, thanks to you.

a woman can never have enough shoes. thank you, nanette!

Quote - Hi, I am thinking make clothes for Antonia, is there any kind of cr2 blank to help the cloth making process?

A blank figure sounds like a good idea. I guess "blank" can mean different things to different people, and depending on what purpose it is supposed to serve, for example "V3 BLANK SAE.cr2" still contains JCM morphs, and all the materials.

So what things would people like to see left in or taken out of a blank Antonia figure?

JCM
Materials
PBMCC channels
?

:tt1: Yea! Shoes for Antonia. This was something that was sorely needed. Thanks NanetteTredoux!  :thumbupboth:  

I was wondering if I could ask a favour of those developing and hosting the files for Antonia?

can we have a clear up and seperation of files? I'm just about ready to give up trying to get her to work since .7 files are mixed in with .9 files with 1.1 files... it's not clear what files should be for the current version. seriously... just a little tidy up?

@Kaibach:Maybe when SF and DigitalLion(Leo) get back from their trip, Leo can upgrade our site to separate the older files from the newer ones. :)

It could be done by creating different directories for earlier versions and latest versions.

Depends on how he is feeling and if he has time.

Quote - a woman can never have enough shoes. thank you, nanette!

Especially heels! LOL.

nice work on the shoes!

Thanks for the encouraging comments - I am still working on the strappy sandals. Please note that if you have PhilC's shoe designer, these material settings can be used on shoes made with it for any figure that is supported (and that includes most of the popular ones).

Hmmm....I wonder what Freak would look like in purple stilettos...

Quote - Thanks for the encouraging comments - I am still working on the strappy sandals. Please note that if you have PhilC's shoe designer, these material settings can be used on shoes made with it for any figure that is supported (and that includes most of the popular ones).

Hmmm....I wonder what Freak would look like in purple stilettos...

I like the way you think, Nanette - freeminded! LOVE it! :biggrin: It's really part of the fun of Poser, isn't it? We can do anything with anything. Freak in purple stilettos... and perhaps the Wow dress? Just made it into a dynamic item: so it should fit... eventually, given 60 frames. :lol:

Quote - > Quote - ... and perhaps the Wow dress?

How about a pink tutu?

Quote - It's really part of the fun of Poser, isn't it? We can do anything with anything.

This isn't said nearly enough.  :thumbupboth:  :thumbupboth:  Poser brings us immense creative freedom.  Too often those of us who've been at it for some time get bogged down in details, easily losing sight of this very important core truth of Poserdom.  :thumbupboth:

Quote - > Quote - It's really part of the fun of Poser, isn't it? We can do anything with anything.

This isn't said nearly enough.  :thumbupboth:  :thumbupboth:  Poser brings us immense creative freedom.  Too often those of us who've been at it for some time get bogged down in details, easily losing sight of this very important core truth of Poserdom.  :thumbupboth:

Yeah but only if you can manage to wrap a dead head around all the complex stuff like dynamics in hair and cloth, magnets, jcms, faceroom functions, bend zones, etc.

I can't, so I just try to use whatever I can find to do my addictive rendering and begging shamelessly to those smarter than me to please offer this or that I depserately need and can NOT make myself!

Thanks to all of you and your generosity.

See this topic I have two weeks. I do not know of
his existence before. But I read the Post and the
post, and 346 pages.

I am flabbergasted with the quality of Antonia.
She makes me laugh with joy as poses. She does
things that made ??no figure 3D. She does it
naturally, without being fragmented into pieces.

I have no right to criticize anything! But I will
dare! I hope not hurting anyone here. Is not
critical, it is good advice.

• Improve the eyes of the eyelids antonia.
• Improve upper and lower lips. He shows 2D.
• The hand must be improved. Has no expression.
  Nails and fingers are on the same line. It takes
  a step that separates the finger nails.
• Improve feet, more expression.
• More expression on elbows and knees.
• The chin is pointed and it is not normal.
• Nose too wide for a delicate woman.
• For more polygons in the genital area, to
  conduct realistic morphs. Genital or make a
  realistic woman, as it should be. This is the
  brainchild of creator of Antonia, a real figure.
  She is real.

In others, it is better than V4.

Thank you all for Antonia, and all the work free.
I will make some conforming clothes and I hope
everyone's help so that the clothes get perfect.
I promise.

Today I worked on a Pic of Antonia, by day and
with great pleasure! I posted in my gallery, and
do many others. For you and for antonia has
eternal life and be known, more and more.

A big hug to all of you with all my respect.

Roberto.

• Please forgive me, for my bad English.

Hi Roberto,

Yes, antonia is imperfect like a ral human. I agree on some of your points, and could add some more.

The good thing about Antonia is that you are totally free, and in fact encouraged! to make and publish your own improved version.

B.

I am happy to share it as on Antonia's site, but before finalizing and uploading I could do with some feedback.  Is there anyone who wants to help and have a go at it?

Don't invest too much time, there is a tool around by Lesbentley, MirrorMags32, that handles up to 16 pairs of magnets. Two mags is not that much for morph creation.

I tell you, antonia is getting a lot more attention now, wow!

BTW: I downloaded a Demo copy of 3D Coat to try.

If I can learn how to use it Imay try to save for a full copy someday. There are endless textures and morphs I could make for our gal. :)

But all the tutorials are video and I need pdf or written, my hearing is too bad to know what is said onthe videos...sob.

@ bagoas,

As Jules53757 said, my "MirrorMags32" utility over as sharecg.com, is for applying mirror symmetry to magnets via ERC.  However that does not mean that it has to be the only game it town. I would be happy to give feedback, or lend a hand.

Wow, lots of things happened while we visited our capital city and her lovely neighbour town!! I told Leo about the desire to split up things in old and new files.

As we have lots of work to do it would be very nice if someone could make a list containing the categories and the items that belong there. Maybe we need something like "Antonia 1.2", "Previous versions (or likewise)" and, eventually, "works with all versions" - if desired we can split up the mappings as well.

About those shoes: Nanette, these are very, very nice! And maybe it means something to you that I once read the sentence (I think PhilC wrote it): If you can make (3d) shoes you can make everything.

Hi SF;

Good to see you back. :)

It feels fine to be home in our little playground again!!

SaintFox,

Damn, damn, damn, that smiley you posted nearly made me wet my pants laughing!

Quote - As we have lots of work to do it would be very nice if someone could make a list containing the categories and the items that belong there. Maybe we need something like "Antonia 1.2", "Previous versions (or likewise)" and, eventually, "works with all versions" - if desired we can split up the mappings as well.

As far as my own content on the site goes, in the poses section, "TGPPoses01", and "TGPPoses01" are for the 1.0 or any previous version. "APUtilityPoses0.9.122" is for the 0.9.122 version. Feel free to move or delete these files. As far as I know, all my other content on the site should work with 1.2 and 0.9.122 or above.

I still use 1.0 quite a bit because of it's better compatibility with poses and content for other figures, Symmetry, and the Walk Designer. I would like to see the 1.0 content maintained, but don't feel it is worthwhile to go to a lot of trouble over it, or make it too prominent on the site. Perhaps one new page "v1.0 or previous Content", and everything that only works for old versions could be dumped there. As for new content, let's hope that the authors specify if it will work in previous versions.

If it would not be too hard to implement, a way for the author to delete their content would be a good idea.

I went through the stuff in the free site, and made a list of all the stuff I found that was for 1.0 or previous. I don't know how to check dynamic clothing for compatibility, I assume it works with any version, but may be wrong. When something said it was for 1.2 (1.02?), I took it at face value without checking, I also assumed that all texture files and shader sets work for any version. Here is what I found.

character_sets:
Morphed_Antonia_124_,  by drapak12.

in character_texture_sets.
All OK.

poses:
TGPPoses01, by lesbentley.
TGPPoses02, by lesbentley.
APUtilityPoses0.9.122, by lesbentley.

hair_models:
All OK.

hair_textures:
All OK.

clothing_models:
Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia,  by  amy_aimei.

clothing_textures:
All OK.

morphs:
All OK.

smart_props:
All OK.

texture_sets:
All OK.

utilities
AntoniaPuppetMastersupport, by  SaintFox.

resources:
All OK.

In addition, there is a problem with the download link for "Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia_Updates" in the clothing_models section. "LidTest-01_cr2" in morphs, is obsolete, and can be deleted.

[edit]

I missed one, xuu4u_-_Extreme_Gym_Poses_for_Antonia"  by xuu4u, is also for 1.0.

Thanks a lot Les, that's a base. Leo already prepared the site so that things can be moved into their places. You assume right, dynamic clothes fit both versions as they do not contain bones or bodyparts. IF the size or proportions would havechanged it would be different (but this can be fixed by the user himself). Leo will start to move content today and if we have further questions (we means: He asks and I read, write and translate) I will give you a holler.

And about the smiley: Your reaction amused me a lot, so much that I dare to post another one that I like a lot ---> Usually I would have to wait until I say something stupid again to use it so this is the perfect chance to use it immediatly.

Hello,

please can everyone in this list send the version-number to me, or tells me, if an item of this list can be deleted !?

by 3Dream:

Face_morph_for_Antonia_by_3Dream

Transmap_brows_&_lashes_for_Antonia

by amy_aimei:

Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia_Updates

Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia

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by Bagoas:

Short_pant_for_Antonia

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by BluEcho:

BE4Danika

by Cagedrei:

Victoria_3_expression_morphs_for_Antonia

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by drapak12:

Morphed_Antonia_124_

Dynamic_bathrobe

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by Fisty:

MuleShoes

DynamicDress

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by LaurieA/AllenArt:

DynamicCocktailDress

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by lesbentley:

UpDo2_Hair_AP_Fit

PTAIL_Hair_AP_Fit

UpDo2_+_AP_Hair_Fit

LidTest-01_cr2

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by SaHaNi:

SkullCap_for_APG

BE4akashaAPG

BE4CelenAPG

BE4Flo-Hair_Textures

Antonia_Face_Morphs

BE4FloHair-AP

BE4antoniaPolygon

**---------------------------------------
**

by sazzyazzca:

sazzyazzca_Antonia_Ethnic_Head_Morphs_02

sazzyazzca_Antonia_Ethnic_Head_Morphs_03

sazzyazzca_Antonia_Ethnic_Head_Morphs_04

sazzyazzca_Antonia_Ethnic_Head_Morphs_01

sazzyazzcaHeadMorphs01

sazzyazzca_Eyeshadow_Resource

sazzyazzca_Eyeliner_Resouce_01

sazzyazzca_Blush_Resource

sazzyazzca_Lips_Resource_01

sazzyazzca_Lip_Resource_02

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by shuy:

Dynamic_habit

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by vex:

Tina

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by xuu4u:

xuu4u_-_Extreme_Gym_Poses_for_Antonia

xuu4u_Antonia_Utilities

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by Zardok:

Dynamic_Evening_Gown_2_for_Antonia

Little_Black_Dress

Dynamic_Evening_Gown

**--------------------------------------
**

thank's

 Leo

Quote - by Cagedrei:
Victoria_3_expression_morphs_for_Antonia

These files should be compatible with all versions.  I've just tested them on version 1.2 and they work fine.  They remain compatible with older versions.

Leo, I will need to go to the site and see which Danika is there.

Originally it was for the older mapping but I converted to the new on.

i'll get back to you as soon as i get a few free moments to check things. :0

BE, I think we should keep things for the old (now "A") mapping as some people like it better. So please do not delete such textures but add a hint about the version (here: mapping not bodypart's naming).

Ok my list...

Older mapping:
1.BE4GramTia
2.BE4AkashaAPG
3.BE4Celene
5.BE4AntoniaPolygon
6.BE4Antonia
7.BE4AntoniaMr

Newer mapping.
1.Be4Danika

Antonia_Face_morphs and BE4APGMorphINJ seem to work on either mapping as they are restricted to the face.

SF, I agree we need to keep the older files and it will help now that they will be in different categories.

Thanks to you and Leo. :)

LidTest-01_cr2 and UpDo2_+_AP_Hair_Fit - These can be deleted.

UpDo2_Hair_AP_Fit
PTAIL_Hair_AP_Fit
From memory I think these were made for 1.2, but should work on any version.

For Poser library files, cr2, pp2, pz2, etc. Anything that contains hip, hip2, or waist actors, will be version dependant. Anything that does not contain these actors will probably not be version dependant from at least v0.9.122 up. Though there could be the occasional exception where INJ poses for v1.2 don't work on earlier versions, this is because v1.2 added some extra PBMCC channels which don't exist in earlier versions.

The Rendo Wiki seems to have been deleted.  Perhaps it is only a tempory glitch associated with the site update, but I fear that some executive has decided to scrap it. If that's so I will be very angry :cursing:, as I spent quite a lot of time working on the Wiki, and it had some valuable info on Antonia.

If you want to complain, below is a link to relevant thread in the Community Center Forum:

Wiki?

I know... Leo already wrote to the admin of the german forum and we hope to hear back from him soon...

I've added my 2 cents - as I am pretty disapointed about the missing Wiki my english was not the best but well...

Ppl already have complained about the missing wiki. So far, not a thing. I worked on it a lot as well and I'm pissed...lol.

Laurie

by drapak12: Morphed_Antonia_124_

My morphs with old name. They do not work correct with 1 and 1.2 version.  Looks good only in "0" pose. Should be deleted.

@ drabak12:

can you please make a 'short-test' the bathrobe for 1.0 and 1.2 version - than I can release it !

Never mind, drabpak, I explained Leo that all dynamic clothes will work with both versions of Antonia. Hard to believe but although he is the modeller of our products he has not the big clue of Poser - that is my terrain

BlueEcho: From what I see in the news the situation in the US about payment for the retired people and social security is still undecided. Just for the case that the Antonia site will go down Leo is creating a backup and a mirror at the moment that we will store on our own host. So you can be sure that the site is not lost if somehting bad happens and can be re-created any time.

By the way: The Wiki re-appeared but RO hopes to host it elsewhere. Anyway, here's the link and the discussion:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrwiki

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2831996&page=1#message_3822926

If I had been an admin, and had seen "", I'm sure I would have been frightened into putting the Wiki back up too. ;)

Good to see that it is back. Sad to see that there is no official link to it in the fora, and that it looks like Rosity is trying to ditch it.  Wiki.

Couldn't resist using a couple of those smileys, even though they are the wrong gender for me.

SF; Thank you and Leo for the back-up, it may be needed.

I'm wondering if it would be permissable to do a "save page as" to back up the Wiki page?

That way some of us could save it to our hard drive and store it on a DVD as well.

LOL about the smileys. I'll have to look if there are some alternatives for gentlemen ;o)

About storing the Wiki: I hardly doubt that it isn't allowed to store it on the harddrive for "offline use" cough  as more as it's nothing but a backup and we do not want to claim it as our own work.

And as said before: If you are able to pay your host over Paypal and need some bucks we should team up here. If I remember right you need round about 10 Dollars, right? We are enough people here to spend a Dollar each and keep the site alive for a while.

You have a donate-button on the site, right?

By the way: As Leo is already working on the page he is about to implement links to commercial items. Tomorrow the input mask should be ready and waiting for input.

Quote - And as said before: If you are able to pay your host over Paypal and need some bucks we should team up here. If I remember right you need round about 10 Dollars, right? We are enough people here to spend a Dollar each and keep the site alive for a while. You have a donate-button on the site, right?

I'd be in that - the site's already up and working, and keeping it where it is is a lot less work! Let us know if this suits, BE...

Any help on the site is appreciated, and , yes there is a donate button. :)

Thanks so much.

As soon as I get my end-month payment I send some bucks as well. I think that this will work following the german saying "Small animals make dung as well" (very poor translation - but take "dung" as something positive here). I think that BE sponsored Antonia over a long time on her own and it's just natural to "protect" the site from going down.

@Digital-Lion

I checked the page http://www.bluecho4u3d.com/Antonia/database/sites/clothing_models.htm

Both descriptions for **Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia_1_2 ** and **Beach_Volleyball_Set_for_Antonia **are correct.  Thank you for maintaining the site.