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Subject: Antonia - Opinions?


odf ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 12:44 AM

I just had a brief look at the Wikipedia page that bagoas made. Excellent work! Thank you, good Sir!

I'm not sure, though, that I'm entirely comfortable with the fact that 50% of all Wikipedia pages containing my name now also contain phrases like "detail level of genitalia". I think maybe it would be sufficient to say that there's a small number of body morphs included to provide backwards-compatibility with pre-release versions of the figure, or something like that?

Also, maybe it would be nice to replace the picture with one that shows off the whole body (sufficiently clothed, obviously)? SaintFox has made some great promo pictures for Tony, maybe we could use one of those?

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.


ice-boy ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 3:13 AM

phantom3D at runtimedna is showing how he riggs Antonia with weightmapping. its AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZING.


Diogenes ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 3:27 AM

Hi odf :)

I needed a sleep but I'm back at it..  I just love the weight mapping and Antonia was such a great figure to work with. I am really enjoying myself again. Working with joints used to be such a hectic brain numbing thing, but with the weight mapping it is as easy as the morph brush.

Antonia is superb as always, and the weight mapped version will be very easy to work with for making clothes and other items. So anyone who would like to make something for her will be able to do so. 


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odf ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 3:33 AM

Hi Diogenes :)

Yes, that should make many things much easier. For some reason, I never expected weight-mapped bulges, even though that's an obvious thing to add once one has weight-mapping in general. Looks like there'll be very little need if any for corrective JCMs now.

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.


Diogenes ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 3:40 AM

Yup just very small litlle JCMs once in awhile for the most part though they are a thing of the past. Still usefull for shaping or specialized things a person may want to add. :)  It also makes things like helper bones usefull for something LOL.  I am thinking along the lines of using a few helper bones with weight mapping and DP for some natural muscle movement. We shall see.

I wish I could post pics here, but for the moment NDA restricts me to RDNA. 


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bagoas ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 12:37 PM · edited Sun, 21 August 2011 at 12:38 PM

Quote - I just had a brief look at the Wikipedia page that bagoas made. Excellent work! Thank you, good Sir!

My pleasure! and welcome back, Sir!

Quote - I'm not sure, though, that I'm entirely comfortable with the fact that 50% of all Wikipedia pages containing my name now also contain phrases like "detail level of genitalia". I think maybe it would be sufficient to say that there's a small number of body morphs included to provide backwards-compatibility with pre-release versions of the figure, or something like that?

Sure. I can change that, if you want. in fact any Wikipedia user can change it, but I will take the effort on me. To be honest I had not thought twice about this and assumed you would be comfortable with it because the morph was there in the main figure. It is said here now in public from reputable source that the morph was maintained for backward compatibility only, so it can be echoed in the article. (That's how things are with an Encyclopedia.
Will have access to the system with access to my Wikipedia account later tonight and make the change.

Quote - Also, maybe it would be nice to replace the picture with one that shows off the whole body (sufficiently clothed, obviously)? SaintFox has made some great promo pictures for Tony, maybe we could use one of those?

More pictures can be added. I considered using a picture with clothing but clothing quickly hides one of Antonia's main 'selling' points: her good bending. For the top image I had chosen this 'portrait'. showing shoulder/arm bending as a catcher. There is not much space at the top of the page and a full body shot would be 'overwhelming' when at same scale. On smaller scale it would not show much detail at screen resolution. Also, a full body shot would give a greater sense of 'distance' towards the reader.   

If there is anything else anyone thinks should be added or modified, by all means let's hear it. This about both Antonia and about the community event laid down in this thread which was her creation. I think the process is more unique than the figure.


bagoas ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 1:27 PM

Quote -
Will have access to the system with access to my Wikipedia account later tonight and make the change.

Done now.


SaintFox ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 1:30 PM

Hi!! Nice to see you her on our little playground!!! 

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



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joequick ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 8:53 PM

Is anyone over at Rdna weight mapping Apollo?

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odf ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 8:59 PM

@bagoas: Thanks for the edit! Changing the page without discussing it first seemed a little bit naughty to me. I think you did a great job collecting the relevant information and providing references.

@joequick: Diogenes is, apparently. :)

-- I'm not mad at you, just Westphalian.


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:23 PM

Quote - @joequick: Diogenes is, apparently. :)

Weight-mapped Antonia AND Apollo, right from the beginning. I'm a happy happy player :3

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SaintFox ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 9:59 PM

file_472130.png

How's about something like this to show Antonia in a dress???

I can render something with a supertiny bikini as well...

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 10:18 PM

Lady's got a fine attitude, that's a given.

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SaintFox ( ) posted Sun, 21 August 2011 at 11:06 PM · edited Sun, 21 August 2011 at 11:11 PM

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And here's a sample with a bikini showing more face, skin and bending 😉 I think it's obvious that this little heap of polygons (odf may forgive me this joke) is my favorite toy...

Bagoas: If ou want to use an image or both you can use them as you feel they fit - and if you  need a different size, ratio or a completely different image - let me know and I'll do them.

 

...and I chime in and say: A weightmapped Antonia? Soon? And Apollo to finally give her a partner to hug her and bring her the morning coffee but most of all weightmapped as well? WOW!!!! (What does not mean that I do not still hope for Brad, Diogenes, any time, I can wait...).

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



The Home Of The Living Dolls


NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 12:54 AM

She has grace and style and now she will have more of it! SaintFox, you are a Poser par excellence!

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SaintFox ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 3:32 AM

Within Renderosity this is a big, big compliment, thanks a lot!! :biggrin:

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



The Home Of The Living Dolls


SteveJax ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 5:55 AM

Looking good as always.


SaintFox ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 6:23 AM

file_472136.png

I couldn't resist and had to create a Diva from Antonia, just for fun 😄

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



The Home Of The Living Dolls


Faery_Light ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 7:47 PM

file_472163.jpg

Here's an image of the just the face for the texture I'm working on.

The face morh is my Nicol.

Still a lot of work to go as I do the body and limbs. :)


Let me introduce you to my multiple personalities. :)
     BluEcho...Faery_Light...Faery_Souls.


Cage ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:13 PM

Is one permitted to alter Apollo in such ways as weight-mapping the figure?  I seem to recall a troublingly restrictive EULA accompanying the figure.  :unsure:

Really excited about your experiments, diogenes!  :woot:  Are you one of the PPro 2012 beta guys, then?

I have high hopes that it will be much easier to create conforming clothes for a weight-mapped Antonia.

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:16 PM

As far as I'm told, Apollo's creator is weight-mapping him himself.

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Cage ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:17 PM

Whoa.  Anton has returned?  That's big news, in itself.  Guess I need to go back to the P9 RDNA forum again.

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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:24 PM

I dunno, that's what I was told... but I might have misunderstood it.

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Diogenes ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:26 PM

Excellent I was wondering if he would. Now I can concentrate on Antonia. :)

Cage nice to see you. I was beginning to worry.


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Diogenes ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:28 PM

Quote - Is one permitted to alter Apollo in such ways as weight-mapping the figure?  I seem to recall a troublingly restrictive EULA accompanying the figure.  :unsure:

Really excited about your experiments, diogenes!  :woot:  Are you one of the PPro 2012 beta guys, then?

I have high hopes that it will be much easier to create conforming clothes for a weight-mapped Antonia.

Ya but you can create add ons for him and send them to Anton and if he likes them he will put them on the Apollo site.


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:34 PM

Quote - Excellent I was wondering if he would. Now I can concentrate on Antonia. :)

Cage nice to see you. I was beginning to worry.

Don't trust that info from meeeeee ;-; as I said, I might have misunderstood it...

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Diogenes ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:56 PM

Quote - > Quote - Excellent I was wondering if he would. Now I can concentrate on Antonia. :)

Cage nice to see you. I was beginning to worry.

Don't trust that info from meeeeee ;-; as I said, I might have misunderstood it...

 

Thats Ok I have been planning on shooting Anton a email soon to get his thoughts on this. Keeping my fingers crossed, a weight mapped apollo would be a great addition to Poser. :)


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Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Mon, 22 August 2011 at 8:57 PM

I do agree!

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joequick ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2011 at 8:05 PM

I'm eager for confirmation as to if Anton has returned.

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Thu, 25 August 2011 at 10:48 PM

file_472287.png

Another preview of my new texture work.

This is a close-up of the hand in a lower resolution, no bump maps or shaders added yet.

I still have work to do on the inside of the fingers and palm, the feet and toes. :)

 


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jancory ( ) posted Fri, 26 August 2011 at 8:08 AM

that's looking really nice, blu


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shuy ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 10:54 AM · edited Sun, 28 August 2011 at 10:55 AM

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BluEcho, I'm impressed. About 2 weeks before you wrote that you are creating new texture I started to work with mine morphs/textures set.

I have 2 morphs "teenage" and "30+". They were ready within 1 week. Later I started to work on new texture. 4 weeks passed and I have ready face and torso (still need a lot of adjustments BTW).

I wish to be a woman. I heard that they see more colours. I'm similar to windows 3.11 and I seee 16 colours. I have a lot of problem to adjust part of photoreferences to each other. I think that BuffaloBill from "Silence of the Lambs" have good idea. I need shape girl and scan her skin to obtain photo reference suitable to my skills.

Above is sample face and torso for "older" character. Bump and specular maps are made by Saintfox. My only succes was refit of Jessi hairs.


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 11:43 AM

Looking good! I'm a woman and I don't see color problems, except for the yellow bloom Poser makes when there's no gamma correction (and if you have GC on, something is making that yellow :| )

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 11:51 AM

Looks good to me.

I still have png files to do, the pose mats and mc6 after I do a shader for her.

As for the texture, I think it is finished but I still check for any little probs.

And I definately want to do a set of face morphs, not sure if I want to tackle a body morph yet...lol.


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shuy ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 12:18 PM · edited Sun, 28 August 2011 at 12:24 PM

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If you need body morph resource I can send you mine. They are little bbit messed, but should be easy to use. It is possible that if I do not finish my characters within few weeks, I'll give up. Then I'll be happy if somebody use my work. There are hundreds magnets morphs and sculpts and it is a pity to waste them.

Link - 2 FBM left with boReeL texture right with SaintFox. Picture canoot be loaded here (too big). I heard that this site contain popups, but I do not know which server is free of them.


bagoas ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 3:31 PM

You may want to check this link you are giving, shuy.


shuy ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 3:49 PM · edited Sun, 28 August 2011 at 3:55 PM

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file_472342.JPG

> Quote - You may want to check this link you are giving, shuy.

Why? Work correct in Firefox. I have admuncher and do not have any popups. Anyway I did not notice that picture was bigger then 200KB. It is compressed now


Thalek ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 6:20 PM

I know I was a bit busy with other things, but I didn't realize so much was going on.  I was aided and abetted in falling so far behind by Renderosity:  they stopped sending me thread updates.

As always, I'm impressed by all of the creators here.  I'm having trouble rigging the heat beam of George Pal's Martian war machine, and you guys are creating gymnastic ballerinas!  Of course, you've all been willing to work harder than I've been, in order to learn all this stuff . . .


GeneralNutt ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 6:21 PM

Quote - I wish to be a woman. I heard that they see more colours

I work with colours in my industry, and we have to take tests to see how much colour we can see. I would say 90% of people have some deficiency in colour. I have heard that women see colour better then men too, but I think this is a rumor started by women. In practice I find the best colour eyes are held by men. Mind you this is a pretty small sample of people, maybe 20 that deal with colours all day



RedPhantom ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 7:17 PM
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Quote - > Quote - I wish to be a woman. I heard that they see more colours

I work with colours in my industry, and we have to take tests to see how much colour we can see. I would say 90% of people have some deficiency in colour. I have heard that women see colour better then men too, but I think this is a rumor started by women. In practice I find the best colour eyes are held by men. Mind you this is a pretty small sample of people, maybe 20 that deal with colours all day

 

I think that the real reason is because women actually think there is a difference between eggshell, ecru, cream, and off white.


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RobynsVeil ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 8:07 PM

I too haven't recieved updates on this thread - and yet, I see:

[top] [reply] [unsubscribe] [print] [save]

So, I'm subscribed?

In the dynamic cloth for Antonia camp of try-ers:

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There is so much about dynamic cloth still to learn, tho... :blink:

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Faery_Light ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 8:14 PM

file_472350.jpg

The texturing is finished and now the png files, mat pz2 and mc6 files to be created. I need to add shaders and want to do at least a face morph.

The poses shown here are from SF's pack and I used the LD for Antonia to help create this texture.

And I decided on a name, Jorita. :)


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Thalek ( ) posted Sun, 28 August 2011 at 11:11 PM

Quote - I too haven't recieved updates on this thread - and yet, I see:

[top] [reply] [unsubscribe] [print] [save]

So, I'm subscribed?

I also appeared to be subscribed, but no messages.  [helpless shrug]  I don't understand it.


bagoas ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 11:16 AM

Quote -
Why?

because firefox returned and still returns a page saying:

The requested URL /aAfkjfp01fo1i-30815/loc393/37111_Ant04_123_393lo.jpg was not found on this server.

Quote -  Anyway I did not notice that picture was bigger then 200KB. It is compressed now

Good. Water under the bridge. What condition/form are those morphs in? Guess we could do with some more body morph shapes.


SaintFox ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 4:22 PM

I asked Leo about color-blindness (what is not exactly the same you are talking about, I know). He was an optican and digged out some statsitics about it. He told me that 9% of those who suffer from color blindness are men and 0.8 % are women.

I'm not always right, but my mistakes are more interesting!

And I am not strange, I am Limited Edition!

Are you ready for Antonia? Get her textures here:



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RobynsVeil ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 6:21 PM

Quote - I asked Leo about color-blindness (what is not exactly the same you are talking about, I know). He was an optican and digged out some statsitics about it. He told me that 9% of those who suffer from color blindness are men and 0.8 % are women.

So, there is some truth to that, then. Interesting. Oh, meant to say: your most recent images are breath-taking, Mieke. Re-downloading stuff - looks like a lot more morphs and stuff have come out since Rendo stopped sending me Antonia thread updates.

Can't wait for PP2012 and SSS to come out: I'm keeping the skin purposely simple atm.

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lesbentley ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2011 at 11:08 PM

Quote - In the dynamic cloth for Antonia camp of try-ers > Quote -

Looks very nice to me RobynsVeil. 👍


lesbentley ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 12:56 AM · edited Tue, 30 August 2011 at 1:07 AM

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file_472406.png

 

I made a simple lollipop smart-prop. I have posted it to the Smart Props section of Antonia's Free Site. Its got some morphs, and there are also some poses included in the zip. One of the poses is shown in the above image. With a diffrent texture it might also serve as a passable cookie.


shuy ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 2:21 AM

Quote - I asked Leo about color-blindness (what is not exactly the same you are talking about, I know). He was an optican and digged out some statsitics about it. He told me that 9% of those who suffer from color blindness are men and 0.8 % are women.

That means that it must be determined by recessive gene on X chromosome. Anyway I think that it is manipulation. When I worked in printing press I have seen all colours clear, but when I am in shop with my wife I see no difference between new dress and dress which she bought few days ago.

I have question for morph creators. What would be more comfortable for users? How do you choose channels number? If all morphs would be injested in PBMCC_00 - PBMCC_01 etc. they would overwrite.

I think that if everybody create inj for first channels I should choose last. Then you can inj more morphs to one figure. Am I right?

Or maybe I should make my own channels?


Afrodite-Ohki ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2011 at 11:39 AM

I was considering this problem. Is there a way to "initialize" morphs for Antonia like we have when we install morph packs for V4? If I do manage to make morph packs for her, I'd like them to have their own channels so as to not limit people with custom morphs.

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