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Subject: Forum attached image - aspect ratio problems


bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 4:12 PM · edited Tue, 19 November 2024 at 9:21 AM

I seem unable to upload images to the forum and have them display with the correct aspect ratio.

Historically this has never been a problem, but lately images above a certain size are squashed horizontally, but not an equal amount vertically.

This is extremely annoying and totally unnecessary.

Further, when I have attempted to reference external images, and I explicitly set an acceptable size for the forum (600 by 400) my instructions were ignored and the image was arbitrarily squashed.

Is the dev team aware of the change? Is it intentional? If it is I'm moving permanently.


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StaceyG ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 4:26 PM

Hi bagginsbill,

 

I'm checking with the techs on this and will get back to you as soon as I know something.

 

 

Thanks

Stac


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 6:38 PM

bill, I dunno if they can change this back, as I know they useta get complaints from some users when the page went over 800 px wide, causing said usrs to hafta scroll right/left.  I'd also like to request that we have more poser info threads in poser forum and less OT threads.  maybe move 'em to an OT forum where those guys can post 'em.



bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 7:13 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 7:14 PM

MN,

I'm not arguing against scaling the image. I'm not asking to keep it full size.

I'm asking that the programmers use basic HTML skills and set the width and height to equal reduction ratios. It's called preserving aspect ratio and it is a basic skill for anyone in the graphics/GUI business.

There are lots of ways to do it.

Here's one involving CSS

img {   width:  75px;   height: auto;}

Not exactly rocket science, is it?


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:09 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:23 PM

file_473073.jpg

 

o.k., they may be able to do that.  lemme try it.  no, it didn't re-aspect one I just posted at 1200X600.  it didn't re-aspect this one either (posted/viewed in FF).  how do ya post one so it gets aspect ratio changed? 

o.k., I'll try external one, per the following post.



bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:15 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:17 PM

Now, I think it's not doing it to uploaded ones. It think it's just externally referenced images.

Let's try one.


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:34 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 8:37 PM

o.k., one more try with 1600X1600 ext. img.

werty

o.k., got it - does it when width/height declarations included in img src tag. doesn't do it when no declarations.



bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 9:26 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 9:27 PM

You're confusing me by saying it does it when declarations are included. I did not enter any value. I pasted the URL and that is all. It is squished. There are no declarations.

In another thread yesterday or the day before I did the same and it squished. Then I explicitly entered valid dimensions and it ignored them. It showed the image squished no matter if the dimensions were both blank, one blank, or both specified.


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 9:50 PM

the source code for your "angry woman" msg shows height and width decl.:

the bondware forum software limits page width, hence it shrinks img width to fit (because 1 or more users complained about having to scroll right/left several yrs ago), but allows height decl., thus changing the aspect ratio.  when I post an external img, I paste in the img src code via html editing, i.e. I don't paste an img into their reply box.  doing the latter adds the width and height to the source code of the msg., thus allowing their software to squish the img horizontally.



bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:02 PM

I don't paste an image into the reply box either. You are really confusing me.

I click the picture of a tree.

A dialog appears called "Insert/Edit Image".

I enter the URL and click the Insert button. That is all I did. If the width and height got populated it was Rendo's code doing it.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:04 PM

file_473081.png

This


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:06 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:06 PM

Here is a screen shot I uploaded in another thread. When I wish to show someone these again, I use the tree, insert the URL, and hit the Insert button. Like this:

I did not enter any dimensions. It is squished.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:07 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:09 PM

Now I will instruct it to show that image at 100 by 100.

Like this:

You should be able to tell fairly easily that this is not 100 by 100.

The site has modified it to 100 by 78. The site refuses to do what I said, because it knows the correct aspect ratio.

When I tell it what to do, it refuses and computes a consistent aspect ratio.

When I do not tell it what to do, it computes an incorrect aspect ratio.

 


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:11 PM

Now let's try just entering a width of 400.

There is a checkbox called constraint proportions. That is supposed to maintain the aspect ratio. As you can see, it did no such thing. In fact, it used a height of 0.

This is egregious.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:12 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:12 PM

How about a height of 400 with "Constrain Proportions" checked.

Look at that - it is the right aspect ratio.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:13 PM

Now 400 by 400, without constraining aspect ratio.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:14 PM

Keep in mind you have to read what I said I did. You cannot look at the HTML and assume I did that. My complaint is that the HTML does not say what I asked it to do.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:15 PM

Once more with feeling. Insert URL - say nothing about dimensions.

You get:


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:43 PM · edited Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:50 PM

Quote - I enter the URL and click the Insert button. That is all I did. If the width and height got populated it was Rendo's code doing it.

yes, is correct. Rendo's code is doing it.  is what happens when one clicks on the "insert img"  button.  this passes the img attributes to the forum software, which then uses height attribute whilst limiting width attribute, in case width attribute exceeds whatever maximum they've set.  now that they know your issue, they can address it.  the way I avoid it is to paste the img URL into the html editor box that one gets by clicking the "html" button on the upper left.  this prevents the forum software from wreaking havok with the aspect ratio.

p.s. the forum stylesheet contains the line

#forum_outer_table img { max-width:600px; }

editing this would only affect the usr who modifies it himself. everybody else would still see the squished img.



infinity10 ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2011 at 10:49 PM

Sounds like some default setting if no dimensions or scaling are declared.  

Programmers got to take a look.

Eternal Hobbyist

 


StaceyG ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 11:07 AM

This is more about not “uploading” but linking to external images. We had to constrain the width of the forums so it doesn't break the entire layout for the page by pushing the right sidebar WAAAYYYY off to the right.  If you just use the “Attach a file” functionality – it will drop the image in with the correct aspect ratio AND make the image linkable so that it can open up full size. 

 


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 11:13 AM · edited Thu, 22 September 2011 at 11:14 AM

" We had to constrain the width of the forums so it doesn't break the entire layout for the page by pushing the right sidebar WAAAYYYY off to the right. “Attach a file” functionality – it will drop the image in with the correct aspect ratio AND make the image linkable so that it can open up full size. "

 

but not the height??? so hang on. you stopped ppl breaking the forum [<--->] .... but not up and down and did'nt think to keep the ratio of the height to the width...?

 

erm. sorry to say this... Halfassed job! you can say " If you just use the ..." but the fact remains a half assed job was done in the first place.



StaceyG ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 1:06 PM

The constraints were placed on the width of the forum thread itself …. Not any sort of adjustment for offsite images that are plugged in via html.

 

We can put it on the “todo list” to try to come up with a solution … BUT – in the meantime, if you just use the “attach file” feature on upload it will work the way you want it to.  


bagginsbill ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 1:43 PM

When it's my own image, that happens to be loaded here in Rendo's server, that will be OK.

But sometimes I link to external images because that is allowed, but making a copy and storing it on this server is not allowed.

Oh well.

As long as my own uploaded images show correctly.


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Miss Nancy ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 3:33 PM · edited Thu, 22 September 2011 at 3:45 PM

there may be another easy way to do this and retain aspect ratio, but I can't upload img right now, due to ddos attacks AFAICT.

no, wait , it was internal server error.  trying again:

no, it doesn't work.  still need to paste into html editor.



Miss Nancy ( ) posted Thu, 22 September 2011 at 7:44 PM · edited Thu, 22 September 2011 at 7:52 PM

lemme try it with "constrain",  per bill's post(s) (see, I did read 'em :lol:).  no, "constrain" didn't work.  trying it without "constrain" didn't work.

only html editor works for external img. bottles

onmouseover also didn't work for img swap.



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