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Subject: PP12 in Vista can't save files to Libraries


Iuvenis_Scriptor ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:01 PM · edited Wed, 12 February 2025 at 4:40 PM

Whenever I try to save something to the Libraries in PP12, I get a "Warning: cannot open " followed by the path of the file I'm trying to create.  Also, I can't save anything directly into my Runtime from Poser File Editor either.  When I do, it doesn't appear in the refreshed Libraries.  I have to save it to my Desktop and then copy it in.  I suspect it has something to do with Vista's ever-annoying security hang-ups, but I've tried editing file permissions to no avail.  Is anyone else having similar problems and, better yet, any possible remedies?

Thanks in advance!


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:31 PM

Probably related to the UAC..

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Iuvenis_Scriptor ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:33 PM

What the heck is UAC?  User Access Control (just a guess)?


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:36 PM

Yep, if you have it "on" and your runtime is in your main "C" drive it causes issues so I'm told..I don't have issues because it's switched off, I'm using w& also but the UAC works the same..

Two choices...

  1. Switch it off.

  2. Move your runtime..

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Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Iuvenis_Scriptor ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:46 PM

How do you switch it off?


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 12:56 PM

It's in the control panel of W7, can't remember Vista but prolly the same..

You should only switch it off if you're switched on with computers and you have a good AV and spyware software..

I use AVG pro..

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


jestmart ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 1:22 PM

UAC prevents programs from writing to the Program Files folders. The User/Documents folder is the recommended location for user created data.  However you can place data pretty much anywhere you want except those protected OS folders.  The absolute best option is a separate internal harddrive if that is possible.


thefixer ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 1:30 PM

UAC is a nanny, it's a PITA at the best of times...

 

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LaurieA ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 2:25 PM

The best way to avoid UAC problems with Poser and still retain the benefits of it is to keep it on, but install Poser outside the program files folders.

Laurie



taboki ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 3:55 PM

Try to run Poser as admin.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 29 September 2011 at 5:57 PM
Online Now!

Admin does not always correct the problem.  As many before posted, install Poser outside the Program Files folder and leave UAC deal with everything else.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:33 AM · edited Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:42 AM

Don't install Poser outside Program Files. If you do that, it is vulnerable to a virus. The point of UAC is to block any program from modifying any file in the Program Files - that is almost 100% of the time a virus. The tiny bit of other times, it is a content installer or it is Poser.

When you ran the PP 2012 installer, the default choice for locating the main runtime was not in Program Files. The first choice was "highly recommended" I believe. Yet you changed it, right?

The correct solution is to do what was suggested by the installer - let it put your main runtime in your data area.

My Poser Pro 2012 Content is in:

c:/Users/Ted/Documents/Poser Pro 2012 Content

And every program has no trouble to read and write this folder.

I have to tell you another bit of advice, though:

You are making a grave mistake installing or saving things in your main Poser library. There were reasons to do this long ago. There are no such reasons now.

If you use the main library as a dynamic content area that you are always adding to or changing, then you will waste time doing backups of a big pile of content that came from SM, and you will have a tougher time keeping track of what's what if you decide to re-install or do a system restore.

I keep all content made by me in a Bagginsbill library. Nothing goes in there but what I created or saved myself.

I keep SM content in the main runtime and nothing else. Doesn't matter where that is because I actually never ever want any changes to that one.

I keep Daz V4 content in an external runtime specifically for V4 and related figures. It's a large pile of stuff which I can disconnect from Poser if I'm not working with V4. That makes loading and searching for content quicker, since Poser can just ignore that whole pile of files, which is well into the thousands at this point.

None of my "dynamic" libraries are in Program Files so reading and writing them is no problem.

Before anybody says that Python scripts have to be in the main runtime, no they do not, unless they have hard-coded paths. The technology of Poser and Python does not force a dependency on location. If a script has such a requirement, it is because that author did something foolish. All the scripts I write have been running fine no matter where you keep them. I have some that are not even in a runtime structure of any kind.


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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:42 AM · edited Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:45 AM

"Don't install Poser outside Program Files. If you do that, it is vulnerable to a virus."

 

BULL! oh c'mon Bill you know FAR better than that! be serious. your supposed to be a "professional". you know if you have an Anti virus program (which everyone should have, there's no excuse. there's many free ones that do an excellent job, including Microsoft Security Essentials), you can put what you want where you want safely.

sorry if that offends y Bill but YOU don't like it when ppl spread FUD.. so why do it yourself?



bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:52 AM · edited Fri, 30 September 2011 at 8:54 AM

Then what is UAC for?

Anti virus finds them after the fact, right? I thought UAC prevents the modification altogether.

Don't say sorry if it offends you when I haven't even responded yet. I'm not offended. Are you expecting me to be for some reason?

I was offended when you claimed to know how many polygons were in my prop a long time ago and would not believe me. Not been offended since then.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 9:12 AM · edited Fri, 30 September 2011 at 9:13 AM

I have no idea if this article is reliable or not, but it seems understandable for non-tech readers. It also supports exactly what I said. Do whatever you like.

http://www.tweak-uac.com/what-is-uac/

Quote - How does UAC protect us? Since the virus infects your computer when you use it as a standard user, the virus cannot get access to the global system resources, and therefore the amount of damage it can do is severely limited. Although it still can corrupt your documents and read your email, it cannot infect Windows system files or install itself to be automatically activated everytime you login to the computer. If a virus attempts to modify the system files and settings, UAC will alert you by displaying an elevation prompt.


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stewer ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 9:19 AM

Quote - When you ran the PP 2012 installer, the default choice for locating the main runtime was not in Program Files. The first choice was "highly recommended" I believe. Yet you changed it, right? The correct solution is to do what was suggested by the installer - let it put your main runtime in your data area.

That's the best way to go indeed. There is a good reason that it is the default choice.


kawecki ( ) posted Fri, 30 September 2011 at 5:24 PM

If Microsoft virus protection would be so effective then wouldn't be hundreds of millions infected computers. Enjoy the UAC and don't forget to install the latest security patch

Stupidity also evolves!


thefixer ( ) posted Sat, 01 October 2011 at 2:13 AM

I've used computers since the early days of the acorn and spectrum with memory managers and such, not once has any of my computers had any viruses..Why!!? Because I know what I'm doing, I don't need microsoft and it's nanny telling me what I can or can't do inside the box..

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


Netherworks ( ) posted Sat, 01 October 2011 at 4:29 AM · edited Sat, 01 October 2011 at 4:30 AM

I've always been under the idea that UAC is really to keep people from accidentally deleting things in program files that they shouldn't be.  Or to keep folks without administrator privledges in a multi-user environment from doing the same.

I've always installed Poser outside of Program Files and have never had an issue with a virus hitting that folder... though I run a pretty tight ship here.  I also have UAC disabled (vista 64) and personally I also see it as a nanny ;)

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thefixer ( ) posted Sat, 01 October 2011 at 4:36 AM

Quote - I've always been under the idea that UAC is really to keep people from accidentally deleting things in program files that they shouldn't be.  Or to keep folks without administrator privledges in a multi-user environment from doing the same.

I've always installed Poser outside of Program Files and have never had an issue with a virus hitting that folder... though I run a pretty tight ship here.  I also have UAC disabled (vista 64) and personally I also see it as a nanny ;)

Agree, nobody uses this pc except me, it's off limits to anyone else in the house...

Injustice will be avenged.
Cofiwch Dryweryn.


kawecki ( ) posted Sat, 01 October 2011 at 5:48 AM · edited Sat, 01 October 2011 at 5:50 AM

I have a very small drive C:, only 20 GB and used only 10 GB (XP64). I don't install anything in C. Some nasty programs don't give any choice than to install in C, I try to avoid using these programs and even if installed I try to move them to other drive once installed.

I have a drive D for only the swap file (virtual memory) and a temp folder, nothing more there and have no swap in any other drive including C.

The advantage of a small drive C is that for Microsoft only exist drive C, all the mess is done there and the other drives are always clean of Microsoft's garbage. As C has limited capacity the trash cannot grow forever there, in one moment there will be no more room for trash and so, a forced cleaning operation.

The other big advantage of a small C is that I can create a disk image that fits inside a DVD, it gives more or less 3 GB compressed, in my case. If some program or crapy driver update makes my computer don't work anymore, I restore drive C from the image with a boot CD and in less of 5 minutes I have my Windows working again. I never re-install Windows !!!

All my programs and data are in E,F,G,H,I,J,K and L   M is the DVD

Stupidity also evolves!


owi2000 ( ) posted Sat, 08 October 2011 at 10:42 PM

Quote - When you ran the PP 2012 installer, the default choice for locating the main runtime was not in Program Files. The first choice was "highly recommended" I believe. Yet you changed it, right?

The correct solution is to do what was suggested by the installer - let it put your main runtime in your data area.

My Poser Pro 2012 Content is in:

c:/Users/Ted/Documents/Poser Pro 2012 Content

And every program has no trouble to read and write this folder.

I did this initially, however I ran into a problem when trying to install Victoria 4.  The V4 installer wouldn't let me install her into any runtime except for the one in which the program was installed in. 

Judging by what everyone else here has been saying, there must be a way around this, right?  However I'm rather clueless as to what that way is, so could someone fill me in?  Having my runtime in my documents would make my life alot easier.


Netherworks ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 2:05 AM

Yeah, just make a blank text file and rename it to poser.exe and put it in your content Runtime.  I remember older DAZ installers insisting on being installed where Poser exists but that's around the "Poser 6" days.

 

Quote - > Quote - When you ran the PP 2012 installer, the default choice for locating the main runtime was not in Program Files. The first choice was "highly recommended" I believe. Yet you changed it, right?

The correct solution is to do what was suggested by the installer - let it put your main runtime in your data area.

My Poser Pro 2012 Content is in:

c:/Users/Ted/Documents/Poser Pro 2012 Content

And every program has no trouble to read and write this folder.

I did this initially, however I ran into a problem when trying to install Victoria 4.  The V4 installer wouldn't let me install her into any runtime except for the one in which the program was installed in. 

Judging by what everyone else here has been saying, there must be a way around this, right?  However I'm rather clueless as to what that way is, so could someone fill me in?  Having my runtime in my documents would make my life alot easier.

.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 7:47 AM

Note - operating system noobs pay attention!

The default setup in Windows is that you do not see the extension of known file types. The extension is the last part of the name beginning with the last period - .txt, .exe, .jpg, etc.

If you are in that mode, attempting to rename "New File.txt" to "Poser.exe" will fail. It will be named "Poser.exe.txt".

You must truly name the file "Poser.exe".

Go into your file manager options, find the checkbox that says (something like) "Hide extensions for known file types" and disable that. Note that I'm drinking my Sunday morning coffee and typing on my Mac and do not feel like running downstairs to look up the exact phrase on my Windows machine, so I may have that label slightly wrong.


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owi2000 ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 8:15 AM

Yeah, now that I've read that, I remember doing that in poser 6 and earlier, but since I didn't need to in poser 7 I'd forgotten about that lil trick.  Thanks for the reminder.


LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 9:33 AM · edited Sun, 09 October 2011 at 9:35 AM

"Go into your file manager options, find the checkbox that says (something like) "Hide extensions for known file types" and disable that. Note that I'm drinking my Sunday morning coffee and typing on my Mac and do not feel like running downstairs to look up the exact phrase on my Windows machine, so I may have that label slightly wrong."

The option to see extensions is under "Folder Options" and should be at the top of every window. If not, it will be under Control Panel/Appearance and Personalization/Folder Options/Show hidden files and folders. Uncheck the box that says "Hide extensions for known file types" It's one of the first things I do when I get a new computer or reinstall Windows. Microsoft thinks I don't need to see these things, but I absolutely do..LOL.

Laurie



bagginsbill ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 9:39 AM

Thanks Laurie - I'm on my 4th cup and still haven't moved. grin


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LaurieA ( ) posted Sun, 09 October 2011 at 10:20 AM

LOL....hook up the IV then :P.

Laurie



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