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Subject: Nvidia driver update 293.75


Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 1:46 PM · edited Tue, 07 January 2025 at 9:44 PM

For those of you that have Nvidia cards as of 21FEB2012 Nvidia has posted an updated driver 293.75 I like to let others know but sometimes I forget ;).

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Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 2:03 PM

Speaking about the newest Nvidia driver update - I was hoping it would cure my latest problem with Vue 10 Inf. but not so.  Has anyone else experienced frequent black screens and then a message popping up directing you to the OpenGL message “lost connection”  Web page? It explains the problem as being due to mposed time limit (TDR) being exceeded.

I have the NVIDIA GTX 260 graphics card and didn't experience this problem with any of the previous versions of Vue Inf. 9.5, 9.0, 8.5, etc.  Granted, it's not the top of the NVIDIA line and I did have quite a few items in the scene. 

I have tried going to the NVIDIA control panel and switching power management mode to Prefer Maximum Performance, but that didn't help.  I don't know if it's safe to mess with the Win 7 Registry (64-bit) and increase the timeout.  Any thoughts or advice?


bruno021 ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 3:37 PM

I had the problem with previous Nvidia drivers, but not only with Vue, but C4D, even Firefox, if I wasn't doing anything with the computer, the drivers  would randomly crash after some time (randomly, because it happened sometimes only). And to thicken the mystery it only happened on my new workstation with Win 7 X64 and a GT560 Ti. It never happened on my other Win 7 X64 machine (laptop), with a GT 240M.

Haven't worked much yet on the new machine to see if the new drivers fixed the problem, was hoping it would, now I know it won't...



Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 3:52 PM

I'm really surprised you still had the proble  with a GT560 Ti, Bruno - I thought that was supposed to be a real top-of-the line NVIDIA card!  I was doing some research and found that my 2-yr old system only has a 460 Watt power supply so the GTX 550 card is about as high as I  can go.  I have a feeling I wouldn't see too much improvement though so I hesitate to spend the $185 +-.  I even checked into a new "custom built" HP, but at some $2,500, you don't get more than 10GB RAM and a GTX 550 card.  And here I thought computer prices were coming down!  Ha!!


bruno021 ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 4:43 PM

Yes I have the problem with the higher specs and newer chip, weird, right? No problem on the old (well, 2 years old) GT 240M (a notebook card!) I'll let youknow if the problem is gone on the new machine with these new drivers. Maybe it is down to card manufacturers, and not on the Nvidia chip itself?



Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 5:29 PM

I wondered if it wasn't something within Vue 10.  As the new stackable renders feature, for example, since I never saw the problem in lesser versions.  But yes, please report on your success (or lack thereof) with the new machine.


phey ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 6:58 PM

Unforunately the problem is not with Vue or other software it is a problem with 64 bit I read about video card problems all over the internet and 95 percent of them involve 64 bit and win7. I run one of the latest drivers from Nvidia but I also don't run win7 or Vista you can hope it is addressed in win8 when it comes out, but don't count on it.

I was given the chance to upgrade my system to 64 bit and turned it down and it was for free. 64 bit is not yet stable with many software programs and with much hardware and their drivers.

I run a 32 bit system and although not what many are pushing as state of the art I have none of the problems with any of the hardware or software I run, Vue, Daz, Bryce, Nvidia, and more.

Just because some company comes up with an advance in technology and is touted as the new end all does not mean the rest of the world is in step with it. How long did it take 32 bit to become stable when it replaced 16 bit.

Just my take on things with the constant problems people have. I do hear that win8 will support both 32 and 64 but thats just a rumor.

Oh I am sorry I can't be of much more help here. I really wish I had the answer, but I don't.


Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 7:13 PM

Very interesting, phey - I am always late in upgrading to any new Windows OS so even if Win 8 is on the horizon, I doubt I'll jump on the band wagon for a while.  I keep coming back to the fact that I didn't have this problem with earlier Vue versions, though.......hmmm


phey ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 8:12 PM

Mari-Anne

Try droping down in drivers. Nvidia has all the older drivers on it's web site you have to search for them then unistall the one you have and then let windows run the video so you have a GUI and then re-install the driver you used before if you have updated the driver after you updated Vue. It takes 10 to 15 mins total. But then I am not sure with win 7 that and Vista where a big mistake by Microsoft. But it's about money with them not quality.

Good luck.


Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 23 February 2012 at 8:34 PM

Thanks for your suggestion, phey, but I don't think that'll do the trick.  I've used Vue 9.5 Inf quite extensively along side with Vue 10, and it's only in Vue 10 I get the TDR message. Unfortunately, I can't totally confirm this as I can't open the exact same files in 9.5 that I created (and had trouble with) in Vue 10.


DMFW ( ) posted Sat, 25 February 2012 at 7:25 AM

Just to add some more information to this thread although I'm afraid I don't have a solution. I have seen exactly this problem on my machine when I import Poser 2012 into Vue 10, but only if I am asking Vue for Poser support (either to render with the shader tree or to allowing posing inside Vue). I have Vista 64 bit with 12 GB of memory. I'm using the latest patch for Vue and the latest SDK for poser (August 2011) and a GForce GTX 295 graphics card. My driver version was 285.62 and I get this problem in Vue 9 and Vue 10. I don't believe it is anything specific to the version of Vue. 

I posted another thread first before I saw this one when I thought the problem might be due to the importing options and there are more details on that thread...

I'll try the new driver but after Mari-Anne's second post I won't hold out too much hope of a fix :-(

Will post again when I know the results in case it is of interest...

 


DMFW ( ) posted Sat, 25 February 2012 at 7:58 AM

Just confirming that I took the upgrade and I still have the problem :-(


Mari-Anne ( ) posted Sat, 25 February 2012 at 10:31 AM

Quote - Just confirming that I took the upgrade and I still have the problem :-(

Darn it anyhu, eh, DMFW?!  Thanks for reporting back, though. It sure would be nice to find a workable solution. 


bruno021 ( ) posted Sat, 25 February 2012 at 12:32 PM · edited Sat, 25 February 2012 at 12:33 PM

And oddly enough, my problems seem gone... I need to spend more time working on the computer, but so far, no loss of driver display.



Vege-Mite ( ) posted Sun, 04 March 2012 at 8:38 AM

The new Nvidia driver has solved two problems for me. My Vue Preview renders sometimes turned black at the end. I also have a TV card and occasionally watch a bit of TV on my PC. The window which displayed the TV image would be Black until I moved the window around a bit.

I have Win 7, 64 Bit and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 560 Ti.

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Mari-Anne ( ) posted Sun, 04 March 2012 at 9:58 AM

Just out of curiosity, Vege-Mite, what kind of wattage does your PSU have?


Vege-Mite ( ) posted Tue, 06 March 2012 at 5:44 AM · edited Tue, 06 March 2012 at 5:46 AM

Quote - Just out of curiosity, Vege-Mite, what kind of wattage does your PSU have?

Wish I could answere that Mari-Anne; all I can say is that it's a DELL XPS 8300.

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Darboshanski ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2012 at 2:14 PM

Mari-Anne both my machines are custom built but not any of the mainstream PC company for some reason it seems that some of the mainstream PC companies seem to limit what they out inside the case. I gave up on the mainstream PC makers years ago and selected the parts I wanted and had the machines custom made.

What is the specs of your 2 year old machine? Can your present PSU be replaced? One of my machines runs a 750w PSU and the other a 1000w. To me the most important item inside your PC is the power supply unit. You can have all the neatest, most powerful stuff in your PC but if the PSU is under sized it means nothing.

I am not having issues with the newest driver but I don't use Vue 10 I didn't jump on it as I felt there was nothing super duper about  vs 9.5.

If it is older Nvidia drivers you are looking for try http://www.guru3d.com/ they have a list that goes way back Nivida only keeps a few older drivers on their site.

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Mari-Anne ( ) posted Thu, 19 April 2012 at 3:35 PM

Hi  PaganArtist,

I realize I'm just sort of luke warm about replacing my video card at this point.  I've mostly been working with Daz Studio 4Pro lately - since it became a freebie - and haven't had any problems. Especially since the newest 296.10 NVIDIA driver. I think I'll wait until my next computer and go all out in the power supply/video card department (or as far "out" as my pocket book will allow). 

I see what you mean, though, about the mainstream PC companies limiting what they put inside their computers.  I went with the highest video card HP offered at the time I bought my current desktop PC. And you really have to dig in the specs to find the wattage of the power supply unit. Having a custom built PC sounds tempting.  The upcoming Windows 8 doesn't fill me with thrill & delight so I think I'd prefer the option of sticking with Win 7.


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