I'm searching for clothing that will lay on a flat surface. I tried to morph and flatten a pair of shorts that were designed to be worn by a figure but they get too distorted to appear natural. This is a bedroom scene where clothes were thrown on the floor, they need to look natural. -TOM-

At some point, you are going to have to use the cloth room for this methinks.

You can either use a conforming piece you have saved as an OBJ or you can use a piece of conforming clothing.

Either way, you need to release all of the constrained groups. If you don't they will retain the figure shape even laying on the floor.

Be sure to check the "cloth self collision" box when you set up the simulation.

Set ground as the collider.

Set fold resistance to "1" and sheer resistance to 10."

Run it.

Wiser heads than mine may have a better solution, but this typically works well enough for me.

Your best option is to use dynamic clothing or convert any conforming clothing to dynamic. There's tutorials on here on the subject iirc.

Thanks for the suggestions. I follow what you're suggesting to do. Have never done anything in the Cloth Room. I know that a lot of great things happen there but I've never taken the time to master that learning curve. I will try and locate some tutorials and take things step by step. If you  know of any direct links please send me a reply. Many thanks! -TOM-

Nice render dadt.  Very nice!

Quote - Dynamic cloth is the way to go, whether you want to lay it down neatly, drop in an untidy heap or hang it up on a hanger.

I will have to sharpen my pencil and learn about dynamic clothing. Guess it's time to unlock the Cloth Room and see what I can do there. Thanks! -TOM-

Once you go cloth room you wont want to go back.  :)  

Quote - Once you go cloth room you wont want to go back.  :)  

Just be very honest with me...is the Cloth Room friendly? Poser is packed with so many things to learn. I want to completely master the entire software program someday. -TOM-

Quote - > Quote - Once you go cloth room you wont want to go back.  :)  

Just be very honest with me...is the Cloth Room friendly? Poser is packed with so many things to learn. I want to completely master the entire software program someday. -TOM-

According to SM, yes.  According to everyone else, no.

That being said - there a lot of really great tutorials here - also check the Dynamic Cloth - the cloth room for compleat dummies thread (I thought it had been stickied) - lots of great information there.

It is real easy once you get your head wrapped around the basic concepts.

Mastering Poser is only possible if you stop upgrading - everytime I think I have figured it out - SM comes out with a new version that has major upgrades.

That isn't a complaint - I would have never stuck with this if we were still stuck with Poser 4 capabilities (VENDORS TAKE NOTE!)

Definitely look for a few tutorials because you could have to deal with setting the constrained groups and the tutorials should cover that.  I know I've bought dynamic clothes here that were missing that part.  Not difficult once you get the hang of it but definitely easier for the cloth room beginner.  I'm still learning and Forest-Gumping my way around cloth room but the results, when I get it right, are so much more satisfying than conforming.  

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Once you go cloth room you wont want to go back.  :)  

Just be very honest with me...is the Cloth Room friendly? Poser is packed with so many things to learn. I want to completely master the entire software program someday. -TOM-

According to SM, yes.  According to everyone else, no.

IMO Poser is very friendly application. You cannot open and use all tools after 1 hour with manual, but I have no idea, how can it be easier.

Just in case here you can find few clothes on hangers. You can use them, before you discover how drop them on the floor.

Thanks "shuy"... appreciate the LINK! -TOM-

In Free Stuff there is a lot of dynamic cloth you can use without being familiar with the cloth room.

Just use a basic tutorial and you can be on your way. I use a lot of dynamic stuff and figured most of it out without to much trouble.

I've personally always had trouble with posers cloth room.  Maybe I'm just dense.  That was before I upgraded to the newer version though.  Who knows if it will be easier in this version, I haven't had the guts to try it yet.  I too shall have to one day get there though.  I don't want to waste a penny of what I spent on this program lol.

Quote - In Free Stuff there is a lot of dynamic cloth you can use without being familiar with the cloth room.

Just use a basic tutorial and you can be on your way. I use a lot of dynamic stuff and figured most of it out without to much trouble.

Thanks for your reply. For my current composition I'm looking for freebie clothing that is already dynamic so I can position it on a chair or on the floor. I've done some searching. Hopefully I didn't pass up something available. If you know of a direct link I would appreciate taking a look. Thanks! -TOM-

Here are a few dynamic outfits. This was just a quick search for dynamic here in the freebie section. I don't know what style you are looking for.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=51631

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=38078

www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=63624

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=67360

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=29187

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=33588

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=33590

Quote - Here are a few dynamic outfits. This was just a quick search for dynamic here in the freebie section. I don't know what style you are looking for.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=51631

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=38078

www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=63624

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=67360

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=29187

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=33588

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=33590

 

Wow, thanks for all the LINKs, very helpful. Dynamic Clothing is all new to me. I have to tackle it soon. If you run across any additional links for male clothing please post them. -TOM-

First dynamic cloth which you should test is not rendo freebie, but cloth plane from Poser primitives.

Load cloth plane and ball (hi or low res) from library. Place plane over ball, create new simulaton, clothify plane, select collide again ball and ground and run simulation. After few second or minutes you will understand how cloth room works.

Later try to change simulation setting "cloth self collision" and later change simulation parameters fold resistance, cloth density etc.

Before you attempt to convert conforming clothes to dynamic, be aware that the process is frought with problems and annoyances. For starters you will probably lose the textures, so the item will be just shades of grey. You can fix that in the Material Room, but I'm guessing that's one more room you'll be unfamiliar with.

Quote - Before you attempt to convert conforming clothes to dynamic, be aware that the process is frought with problems and annoyances. For starters you will probably lose the textures, so the item will be just shades of grey. You can fix that in the Material Room, but I'm guessing that's one more room you'll be unfamiliar with.

I have the "Material Room" mastered. Navigating there is not so difficult for me. I've never been in the "Cloth Room". It's gonna be challenging but I can see that I do need to educate myself there. As you mentioned above, it's likely that there will be all kinds of surprises. It's just part of the learning curve for Poser. Thanks! -TOM-

Quote - IMO Poser is very friendly application. You cannot open and use all tools after 1 hour with manual, but I have no idea, how can it be easier.

(Raises hand.) Ooh! I know how! Ask me!

Quote - > Quote - IMO Poser is very friendly application. You cannot open and use all tools after 1 hour with manual, but I have no idea, how can it be easier.

(Raises hand.) Ooh! I know how! Ask me!

A make art button doesn't count

For converting conforming clothes (or any figure) to a prop there is a great script called figure to prop by d3d. Get it free here. It saves the trouble of exporting then importing and losing the meterials or having it resized. It gives the option to keep or delete the figure as well as other options.

But I do agree that you should not start with conforming clothes for your first few attempts in the clothroom. Depending on how the clothes are made there may be several problems.

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - IMO Poser is very friendly application. You cannot open and use all tools after 1 hour with manual, but I have no idea, how can it be easier.

(Raises hand.) Ooh! I know how! Ask me!

A make art button doesn't count

For converting conforming clothes (or any figure) to a prop there is a great script called figure to prop by d3d. Get it free here. It saves the trouble of exporting then importing and losing the meterials or having it resized. It gives the option to keep or delete the figure as well as other options.

But I do agree that you should not start with conforming clothes for your first few attempts in the clothroom. Depending on how the clothes are made there may be several problems.

Many Thanks! I am downloading it now to give it a try! -TOM-