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Subject: Is there a decent pearl shader out there for Poser 9/Pro 2012?


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:21 AM

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Another prop. This is an earlier image and might be slightly different parameters.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:22 AM

I have a better more realistic version for the shader pack.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:23 AM

He he... I think the shader pack one's gonna be better still.

That "simple" one still looks awesome click link -> download

😉


monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:24 AM

Is that a Danae skin texture on the figure that's wearing the pearls there BB?


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:48 AM

Quote - Is that a Danae skin texture on the figure that's wearing the pearls there BB?

Yes - Lyon.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:51 AM

Quote - > Quote - Is that a Danae skin texture on the figure that's wearing the pearls there BB?

Yes - Lyon.

Cool - those pearls suit her nicely 😉


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 10:55 AM

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Here is my complex pearl. You can flip-compare this to the simple one.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 11:01 AM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 11:02 AM

Wow... see your point. The simple one looks amazing, then the complex one, with presumably something of that gel coat trick in it, just totally pops all the more.

The light bouncing off the shader is multiplied I guess by the second layer... or something? ... making the pearls whiter, effectively... but in a very convincing way.

Awesome 😄


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 11:41 AM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 11:42 AM

It's pretty :D. Working with it now BB. I added another spec and reflect like that pearly teeth shader someone posted at RDNA...not sure if it's where it's supposed to be in the node sequence, but it looks nice so far ;).

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:01 PM

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This is what I got. Now, I realize it looks more like mother of pearl than pearl, that's ok too ;). This is with an emitter light. I haven't tried it with a regular light yet.

Laurie



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:05 PM

That's pretty.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:06 PM

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Tahitian (black) pearl.

This is definitely a thin-film effect, even more complex than what I was doing earlier. In this one the color doesn't just get darker, it shifts in hue.


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LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:07 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:08 PM

Thank you for the help BB. I could never come up with a pearl shader..lol.

I'm still trying to figure out why it looks awesome with an emitter for a light but looks lackluster, to say the least, with a regular light like a point. Ugh. Even the BBGlossy looks...I wanna say flat?

Needless to say, I don't think I'll be going back to regular Poser lights...lol.

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:09 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:13 PM

Quote - Tahitian (black) pearl.

This is definitely a thin-film effect, even more complex than what I was doing earlier. In this one the color doesn't just get darker, it shifts in hue.

Trust me, I like this, but it has a slight yellowish tint to it that I know black pearls don't have ;). Is it the lights? I had a black pearl ring that reflected a pinkish and mostly bluish color. In incandescent light it looked pretty gray ;). More like the image. But now that I look I guess they can look yellowish?

Laurie



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:12 PM

The emitter (area) light looks better because it's not a point - it's an area. These surfaces reflect what is around them, but being curved they shrink those things. A point, being already tiny, becomes practically nothing. On the other hand, a nice big bright area, such as a window, becomes a beautiful thing in the reflection.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:13 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:14 PM

Quote - > Quote - Tahitian (black) pearl.

This is definitely a thin-film effect, even more complex than what I was doing earlier. In this one the color doesn't just get darker, it shifts in hue.

Trust me, I like this, but it has a slight yellowish tint to it that I know black pearls don't have ;). Is it the lights? I had a black pearl ring that reflected a pinkish and mostly bluish color. In incandescent light it looked pretty gray ;). More like the image. But now that I look I guess they can look yellowish?

Laurie

http://tropic-island.net/polynesia-tahiti-moorea/tahitian-black-pearls.html

They come in many colors.


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LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:15 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:16 PM

I've never seen a black pearl that color...lol. I didn't realize they even came that light in color. I guess nacre production is privy to a lot of different variables ;).

Laurie



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:34 PM


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JoePublic ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:37 PM

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Many thanks for this freebie, BB.

It helped me to finally achieve an accurate Spectraflame shader.

"Spectraflame" is automotive candy paint sprayed directly on top of zinc plated toy cars and contains both standard as well as flourescent pigments, so there is not only "sparkle" due to imperfections in the plating, but also a noticeable color shift.


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:37 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:37 PM

Quote -

Wow...so beautiful :) I always preferred the black pearls over white ones.

Laurie



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:45 PM

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How's this?


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LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:55 PM

Oh, that's NEAT! :D

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 12:57 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 1:00 PM

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Here is the same shaders as in the image I posted just previous to this one, only this one has no emitters and is using a spotlight and the envirosphere. The sphere is outside the room, but the light comes in because the room I'm using is one sided and the normals are facing inward.

The BBGlossy metals have essentially turned to mud and the pearly shader has lost its lovely glossiness and bump. It will still pass for pearl I guess but now it looks more like shiny plastic ;).

I'll supply shaders for metals that looks really nice under regular Poser lighting, even tho the BBGlossy shader may still look really good under some Poser lighting and scene scenarios. Having more shaders choices is a good thing...lol.

Laurie



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 1:15 PM

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Same standard Poser spotlight as before, Poser 8 compatible gold shader.

Laurie



monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 2:28 PM

Quote - Many thanks for this freebie, BB.

It helped me to finally achieve an accurate Spectraflame shader.

"Spectraflame" is automotive candy paint sprayed directly on top of zinc plated toy cars and contains both standard as well as flourescent pigments, so there is not only "sparkle" due to imperfections in the plating, but also a noticeable color shift.

Cool - nice Hotwheels shader 😉


nfredman ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 2:28 PM

Beautimous! slobbers on materials


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 2:35 PM

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Regular car paint (from the Chevy product), Crazy Paint (new candy on white base), and Candy Silver Blur (Hot Wheels style)


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 2:42 PM

That's very nice 🤤


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 3:44 PM

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Furniture paint, Crazy Paint, Candy Gold, Candy Silver Blur.

All in Monkey Green.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:12 PM

Ha ha! Superb!

Many thanks BB 😄

A set of pearl hub caps and those'll be good to go... LOL :lol:


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:14 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:15 PM

how about British Racing Green... in Gloss and Matte?



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:19 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:19 PM

Hehe..anything green is cool for me :D

likes green

Laurie



Latexluv ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:30 PM

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Looks great, BB! I was using something el cheapo on the necklace. Just a clay node and a small reflect.

"A lonely climber walks a tightrope to where dreams are born and never die!" - Billy Thorpe, song: Edge of Madness, album: East of Eden's Gate

Weapons of choice:

Poser Pro 2012, SR2, Paintshop Pro 8

 

 


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:44 PM

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Thanks!

If ya don't like green there's plenty of red!

Deep Red, Burgundy Red, Cherry Red, Red, Hyper Red

 


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:55 PM

Quote - how about British Racing Green... in Gloss and Matte?

Oooh. I can't find a definitive color value for that - google image search produces multiple values.

Care to make a specific RGB suggestion? I take requests.


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DreamlandModels ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 4:56 PM

Those look cool Ted.

Nice model too! :-)



LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:13 PM
Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:26 PM

yup that the closest shade Laurie :)



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:39 PM

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OK - I like that.

With the candy paint, the color is compounded except where it points right at the camera. So I usually have to make a judgement call and boost the brightness a bit to get it closer to expectations.

Which of these three do you reckon is the closest to what you expect for this color?

All three were boosted, but left is least and right is most.


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Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:42 PM

I'd say the mid shade is the best one



GeneralNutt ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:49 PM

I think it is totally unfair to go a post a great pearl shader after having a render running for almost 24 hours, with a shader that just won't do anymore.

Will those model cars' doors open?



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:50 PM

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OK one more test. (I have been doing this for days.)

Here is your color in BBGlossy, your chosen boost in Candy, and in flat matte.

Look right?


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:51 PM

Quote - Will those model cars' doors open?

No.


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bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:53 PM

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I had this slightly different color already, that I called Emerald Green. This is very close to BRG and I like BRG better so I'm dropping this one. But if anybody ever wants to make it again, it is 28, 88, 34.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:58 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:59 PM

I'd call the middle one...?

EDIT: ...and looks okay to me in the glossy, candy and matte test above.


bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 5:59 PM

I have to go make dinner now. If you can figure out where I've hidden the British Racing Green Candy Paint on my site, you can have it FOR FREE.

It will be in the store soon (along with 249 others), so don't redistribute it.

After I'm done with dinner, I'm deleting it.

No fair telling other people where it is.


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monkeycloud ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 6:05 PM

He he... easy... thanks BB 😉


LaurieA ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 6:09 PM

My gawd...that was too easy BB ;).

Laurie



GeneralNutt ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 6:15 PM

Thanks for the shader. I'll buy it later anyway, so it's only a loaner. There is some other interesting stuff there, can we look at it?



bagginsbill ( ) posted Tue, 10 July 2012 at 7:26 PM · edited Tue, 10 July 2012 at 7:27 PM

Time's up.

Are you asking about other stuff in my file cabinet? Sure.


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