I have a free version of Vue Pioneer on a computer magazine disk and  one of Vue 9 Frontier from 3D artist  computer magazine. I am assuming these will be enough to get me started but wondered whether Vue 10.5 is an upgrade version of Vue 9, or is it a different module - in which case do I need it??

I haven't installed either of these yet and ask whether these work seperately to each other or will they integrate when they are installed?

Thank you 

10.5 is a newer version of Vue.   Vue 9 was 2010-2011, 10 is 2011-2012 and vue 11 will probably come out in november of this year.

The various versions of vue for example frontier, pioneer etc are dependtant on what they come with in terms of waht functionality, if you want to see a list, you should check out e-on softwares site...

I believe Pioneer is a free version, while frontier is a paid for version, the list is here.

http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/?page=enthusiast

Download the 10.5 PLE version of Vue instead of using the Pioneer version.  If you plan to buy the program (throw money at the program), buy at least the Complete version.

Thank you for your advice and Vue 10.5 zip is now in my computer waiting to be installed :-)

I have no intention of buying at the moment until I see how I go with this - I am a Scot after all!  This is only a tryout to see how [or if] I cope with it, as I am looking for a creative outlet to keep my aging brain active and replace painting now I can longer wield a brush the way I like to.

Interesting sites you both have :-)

ah, a fellow haggis basher!! ;)

as folk say, yes try the Vue 10.5 PLE version, it has all the bells and whistles, just adds a "watermark" to renders

The higher end versions of Vue are expensive, so yeah very important ot "try before buy"

there's some really nice 2D apps, "Painter" is, unsurprsingly, the best "natural art" app, and Photoshop the more "wide variety of tasks"
lot of 3D work is improved, effects added etc in Photoshop
Paintshop Pro is much like Photoshop and can be used ot paint etc.

get a Graphire or Intuos graphics tablet with a good 2D app and you can still paint on the computer ;)
I can't draw worth a damn so I use 3D as I can envision scenes/lighting etc

Other apps to look at are Bryce (free, over on DAZ3D) it's very like Vue but not as "powerful".

Mojoworld, quirky but creates awesome alien/scifi vistas

Zbrush, 3DCat and Mudbox (all are sort of 3D modelling/object painting tools, I preffer 3Dcoat)

3DMAX and Maya are the "big boys" in 3D art, veeeery expensive but have PLE versions too, lightwave is similar but not so expensive

My site, Geekatplay, Quadspinner, AsilFX have lots of tutorials on Vue.

have fun! :)

Thank you for your input - what part are you from? I'm an Alloa born girl [granny!] but I was brought up  in Galloway.I think I have seen your name on Daz - would that be right?

I certainly won't be moving up to any big programmes in a hurry - I am slow to get going -I have a hardly touched Wacom Graphire 4 which was bought several years ago by an indulgent husband.

I consider I draw reasonably well but when It tried to use that thing I couldn' even get a straight line so it was put awayin a dark corner along with my ego where it still lurks.  I doubt it would be compatible with modern software now.

I also have Elements 9, PSP 10 and Sculptris - which is quaking at the thought of my ham fisted touch .Plus Daz 4[and other free progs] and Poser 9 [a gift] both unopened as yet.

Thanks again; I think I have actually visited your site in a link from Daz?Your ID name seems familiar - I'll know when I get there.

Cheers from Down Under

I have one of those Wacom things, too.  I can't draw worth beans on it.  I guess it just takes getting used to and a lot of practice.  I'm so used to the mouse.

misimifein

I'm from North Lanarkshire, "Land of the Midnight Scum" as I call it :P

Yeah I post on DAZ but not much for a long while, especially after they mucked their forums around :/

I only use the graphire when I'm painting textures or touching up images in Photoshop but it is handy :)
A lightweight/small mouse is perfect for most stuff but sometimes a "brush" is needed
And the graphire should be compatible even now ;) mine is a #4 iirc.

ah just give 'em a shot, see what's fun! ;) you can't break 'em so have fun!
Most folk achieve nothing in life not because they don't have talent, but because they don't try, and you only get one shot at this life so may as well try every non-stupid/non-nasty thing, hehe! 
the fact you can undo mistakes makes creating and learning sooooo much easier on a computer as opposed ot normal mediums