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Subject: Poser figure spotted working as Virtual Guide


Preston ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 4:15 PM ยท edited Thu, 28 November 2024 at 9:06 PM

Attached Link: http://www.ehistory.com/help/index.cfm

I know that virtual actors are nothing new but Victoria (aka Elaine) has taken a part time job as a Virtual Librarian. She has static pages and an animated talking version as well. She's no Ananova (or Sharkey's Angelyna for that matter) but it's a start. I'd really like to know what Poser folks think about the animation version. I wanted to use Flash and some automatic talking ap but found another application instead. It's kind of bizarre (and definitely not as advanced as Poser/Mimic animation) but it's relatively small and downloads quick enough once you have the plugins.


atthisstage ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 4:50 PM

Okay, just curious. I thought the DAZ documentation precluded "commercial use". Is there a license available this?


WrongWay ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 5:25 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt that mean that you cannot sell or redistribute the GEOMETRY? After all its the morphs and pliability of Vic2 that makes her Vic2. Makeing an image from her, of your own design, your own textures etc etc should really be considered your work. The textures, and shape you give her is the art, the Vic2 model herself is just a coat-rack for textures and shapes. I think they just don't want you selling the model, not the images rendered from the model. Correct? I am not sure either now that you mention it, but that seems like common sense. Mike


atthisstage ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 5:38 PM

It would seem like common sense to me too, but these days, who can tell? The read me simply says no commercial use, period. Nothing about selling or redistributing -- and in light of the discussion in the other thread, I should think this instance is something we all might want to watch. After all, you may have made the textures et al, but they're useless without the model supporting them, and I would gather, based on what's been discussed so far, that using the model is just like using the textures... someone had to create it.


genny ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 6:12 PM

I understood it the same way as "WrongWay" did. Hmmmmm, this could be very interesting, as I bet there are a lot of us who are wondering the same thing? genny


leather-guy ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 6:34 PM

A quick visit to DAZ . . . Seems you can use any visual artistic renderings and animations in any way you like, except in producing clipart in bulk. You just can't distribute the 3D character herself except in accordance with the license (Other paragraphs & a FAQ on DAZ site provide further clarification) **************************************** Extracted from DAZ license agreement; You may (i) access, use, copy and modify the 3-D Models stored on such computers at such single location in the creation and presentation of animations and renderings which may require runtime access to the 3-D Model(s), and (ii) incorporate two dimensional images (including two dimensional images that simulate motion of three dimensional objects) derived from the 3-D Model(s) in other works and publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense such combined works; provided that you may not in any case: (a) separately publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense any 3-D Model(s) or any part thereof; (b) publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense renderings, animations, software applications, data or any other product from which any original 3-D Model(s), or any part thereof, or any substantially similar version of the original 3-D Model(s) can be separately exported, extracted, or de-compiled into any re-distributable form or format, or (c) publish, market, distribute, transfer, sell or sublicense any image created from a 3-D Model(s) as "clip art" or the like, including but not limited to animations or still images that are sublicensed or otherwise distributed by a stock photography or stock animation agency, or in any other manner in which the primary source of value derived from publishing, marketing, distributing, transferring, selling or sublicensing the image is that it is accessible in a manner similar to "clip art." Subject to the foregoing limitations, and the rights, if any, of third parties in or to the objects represented by the 3-D Model(s), you may copy and distribute your animations and renderings derived from the 3-D Model ***************************************************


Preston ( ) posted Sat, 08 September 2001 at 7:21 PM

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Thanks for helping to clear that up Leather-guy. I know there's been alot of threads on using Free stuff that says "No commercial use" but I'm kind of surprised people didn't know you could use Poser/Daz figures to render images for commercial use. On the otherhand, Elaine really isn't getting paid so does that still make it commercial?


chanson ( ) posted Sun, 09 September 2001 at 10:03 PM

Attached Link: http://crazytalk.reallusion.com/

Of course the "animation" is not Poser at all. It's done with Crazy Talk, a rather silly (and really fun) program that allows you to take a still photo and "animate" the mouth and eyes to typed text (using a computer generated voice). This same thing can be done with any photo - their demo includes a George Washington from the $1 bill...


duanemoody ( ) posted Mon, 10 September 2001 at 3:25 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the last simulated lady I saw with no teeth had to be inflated. Can Crazy Talk handle the concept 'Teeth' a little more gracefully? On the Greek statue it's less disturbing, but he's mostly shadows anyway.


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