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Subject: Why no release dates in Marketplace?


ashley9803 ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 5:45 AM · edited Mon, 20 January 2025 at 11:58 AM

I'm wondering why the Marketplace does not show the date a product is released.

As many products have very similar (often the same) names, I often find it frustrating and confusing that there is no indication when products were released for sale.

Why is there a policy of not informing prospective buyers of a product's release date? Is this too much to ask?


vintorix ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 7:26 AM

I second that!

 


ErickL88 ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 7:34 AM

Me third!

I'd really appreciate a release date, too.



ToxicWolf ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 8:12 AM

That would be a good idea. When I'm trying to find out how old a product is I always look at the readme file.  It is always dated around the time of the release date.

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fonpaolo ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 8:33 AM

I agree with you!

I always wondered why.


RedPhantom ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 8:46 AM
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I would imagine that it might be to avoid the feelings some might get that since this item is 6 years old (or any time in the past) it was made for a much inferior poser version (or what ever software) so it must be an inferior product so I don't want to buy it.

But I too would like to know.


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KristiS ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 8:59 AM

I will pass the suggestion along to the MarketPlace staff.

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fonpaolo ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:05 AM

For most of the content (with the exception of materials), I think it can still be useful or even necessary if there isn't a new version / object / functionality.

However, know the release date could be useful.


Blackhearted ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:07 AM

i think its a bad idea.

for example, look at GND4, it was released in 2007.

its been updated at least four times since then, with two of those updates being major content updates/product overhauls.  the date it was released is absolutely irrelevant.



fonpaolo ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:29 AM · edited Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:30 AM

Quote - i think its a bad idea.

for example, look at GND4, it was released in 2007.

its been updated at least four times since then, with two of those updates being major content updates/product overhauls.  the date it was released is absolutely irrelevant.

Well, if it's possible, the date could be modified when there is an update.

In your case, no matter the date of release: it's always actual! :biggrin:


toastie ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:45 AM · edited Sat, 01 September 2012 at 9:47 AM

Definitely would like to see release dates on items.

eta: I've always been surprised that release dates aren't shown.

 

 

 


cedarwolf ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 10:15 AM

And possibly a little clearer markation on what versions of, say, Poser are required as well as other requirements.  It would be nice if this extended to the freebies as well.  But I may well be talking out of my hat.


Lully ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 10:27 AM

I'm sure there used to be a date many years ago, nowadays I tend to find it a good percentage of the time in the read me file on the product page (although this can be tedious after the first dozen or so)

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 12:05 PM

I also want to see the number of times it has been purchased - Free Stuff has the number of downloads, so it should be possible to adjust the the Marketplace program.


FrankT ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 1:13 PM

Quote - I also want to see the number of times it has been purchased - Free Stuff has the number of downloads, so it should be possible to adjust the the Marketplace program.

Why would you want to know that ?

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 1:31 PM

Quote - > Quote - I also want to see the number of times it has been purchased - Free Stuff has the number of downloads, so it should be possible to adjust the the Marketplace program.

Why would you want to know that ?

It would show me how popular an item is compared to other items in the same merchant's store.  With a release date and the number of purchases shown, I would be able to guess how many sales were when it was new and how many were because it is a really good product that continues to sell over time.


ashley9803 ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 3:35 PM

Sorry, been asleep - Southern Hemisphere :)

I actually think RedPhantom hit the nail on the head. Vendors may think it would put prospective buyers off if a product was quite old and made for an older version of Poser. I can appreciate their concern.

But the alternative position is not so attractive either - keeping the buying public in the dark doesn't sound so nice when you think about it. To be fair, other sites such as DAZ does exactly the same, they no longer even inform us of the file size/s of their products.

One work-around is to open the little ReadMe files, but that's a pita. I really don't know the best way to keep everyone happy.


Winterclaw ( ) posted Sat, 01 September 2012 at 4:12 PM

I'd like to see a release date as well.  I don't mind olderstuff, but sometimes I'd like to focus on a certain timeframe.

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Lully ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 6:45 AM

Quote - It would show me how popular an item is compared to other items in the same merchant's store. With a release date and the number of purchases shown, I would be able to guess how many sales were when it was new and how many were because it is a really good product that continues to sell over time.  

I think that may end up being a little personal to a vendor's income. You could easily work out how much a vendor made on that particular product, I can see where you are coming from though as it would give you an indicator as to how popular it was/is. I would prefer a ranking system rather than an actual number sold system where you could say that it's number 20 or number 10274 in the all time sales list (abit like what's hot but an overall indicator for all time.)

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 12:58 PM

Quote - > Quote - It would show me how popular an item is compared to other items in the same merchant's store. With a release date and the number of purchases shown, I would be able to guess how many sales were when it was new and how many were because it is a really good product that continues to sell over time.  

I think that may end up being a little personal to a vendor's income. You could easily work out how much a vendor made on that particular product, I can see where you are coming from though as it would give you an indicator as to how popular it was/is. I would prefer a ranking system rather than an actual number sold system where you could say that it's number 20 or number 10274 in the all time sales list (abit like what's hot but an overall indicator for all time.)

I see your point and had not thought of that.  The ranking system would work for me if I could select broad timeframes, with "since release" being the longest and "within 1 month of release" as the shortest to weed out the "OMG!" purchases from when it was new.  1 mo, 3 mo, 6 mo, 9 mo, 1 yr, since release - these would cover it for me.  Also, even though vendors mark boxes on a list, I would also like somehow be able to see the item compared to similar things - a Vicky morph v another Vicky morph and not v a house.

Anything on clearance is there because it has not sold enough within the site's required timeframe, but that only implies recent activity and not how good the thing was way back when before I got into Poser and had no idea what to do with the fantastic product now on clearance.


AmbientShade ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 1:43 PM

Why would you need to know how popular an item is? Why would this influence your purchase decision? 

If you're buying items to make add-on content for them, (such as additional textures, etc), then maybe that would make sense, but otherwise, if the item matches your need, why does it also have to be popular?

 

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 1:54 PM · edited Sun, 02 September 2012 at 1:55 PM

Quote - Why would you need to know how popular an item is? Why would this influence your purchase decision? 

If you're buying items to make add-on content for them, (such as additional textures, etc), then maybe that would make sense, but otherwise, if the item matches your need, why does it also have to be popular?

 

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As close to a guarantee of quality as we can get with something intangible.

Most comments left by prior purchasers are things like "nice," "good job," etc. and do not really tell me anything, whereas "number sold" plus not many negative comments would not only let me know the thing is at least as good as the promo says / shows, but it would be a good marketing idea generally.

Current:  I have this for sale and I can make it look this good.  YMMV.  Unless I have the date in the text somewhere, you have no idea how long this has been available, you have no idea at all how many other people bought it, and the only comments are "Nice," "sweet," and "kewel."

Proposed:  I have this for sale and I can make it look this good. YMMV.  It is 4 years old, has sold 500 units, and the only negative comments are "Not enough mats in it for that price," "Really should have come with more coloring options," and "Needs paint."

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This is not a "it's hot, I must have it!" kind of thing, it is a "I only have this much money, like two things that are similar, and 'need' one for my current project."  I would rather have a bit of market information in the listing rather than just flipping a coin.


AmbientShade ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 2:20 PM

Fair enough.

There used to be a section at the bottom that showed some other items that people bought along with that item, but now it just seems to show "related items" which at times aren't related at all, they just happen to be from the same vendor.

 

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Lully ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 2:38 PM

I've noticed that alot of comments left are geared towards first impression and not after they have used it, so are commenting on the item within the product page and not within the runtime.   Seeing a ranking through out the lifespan of the item in store gives an indication of it longevity (think that's the word) and would indicate that someone has looked for it rather than seeing it on the first few pages of what's new and gone WOW! 

I'd rather buy a classic with a long life span than a trendy item that gets old after a month or so, I do try not to impulse buy anymore but sometimes I get weak  :rolleyes:  lol

 

 

 

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Gremalkyn ( ) posted Sun, 02 September 2012 at 2:56 PM · edited Sun, 02 September 2012 at 2:57 PM

Shakes Shane's hand :)

Quote - I've noticed that alot of comments left are geared towards first impression and not after they have used it, so are commenting on the item within the product page and not within the runtime.   Seeing a ranking through out the lifespan of the item in store gives an indication of it longevity (think that's the word) and would indicate that someone has looked for it rather than seeing it on the first few pages of what's new and gone WOW!  I'd rather buy a classic with a long life span than a trendy item that gets old after a month or so, I do try not to impulse buy anymore but sometimes I get weak  :rolleyes:  lol

Exactly, Lully.  A rating would need to be as specific as possible by item type, though - odds are good that anything having to do with a cute chick and her outfits will out sell anything else, especially something obscure or mundane - a grandfather clock, for example.  Currently there are 2 grandfather clocks for sale here and I can guess which one would be the better product, but I would like the stats / rating in the listing as part of the default, since the same form would be used for those cute chicks and their outfits.  Date listed and number sold would be specific to the item.  :)


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