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Subject: Got a weird one-Hip disappears


shante ( ) posted Sat, 15 September 2012 at 5:00 PM · edited Mon, 23 December 2024 at 5:37 PM

Weird indeed. THis is the second time I have seen this. The first time was in Poser4 using a heavily morphed V1.

The whole hip on the body goes invisible...disappears...poof!

I just got the same thing happen in P7 using a heavily morphed V4 and a child version (morphed) of same. THe child was placed in the stage first all the necessary morphs added to make it work as needed and then the original morphed V4 adult figure was added. The hip disappeared in the original Adult version of the character when installed in the stage.

Trying to replace figure with a new clean version from my library (as well as any stripped down unmorphed default version of V4) resulted in same weird disappearance . Yet the same morphed figure works fine when i close out P7 and reinstall her alone in the stage.

I have used figure combinations like this for a while without any problem then this weirdness happens.I will have to redo the whole scene from scratch which will be a pain but doable hoping I can get it all to eventually work but I was just curious if anyone else has seen this weird disappearing act before?

Any ideas why


PhilC ( ) posted Sat, 15 September 2012 at 11:54 PM

Is this repeatable after a system reboot?


shante ( ) posted Sun, 16 September 2012 at 3:00 AM · edited Sun, 16 September 2012 at 3:01 AM

Hi Phil!

 

In the original set up yes. In other setups no. Its as if the figure was damaged only in that Pz3 file. So the Pz3 file set-up I did is pretty much useless unless I use say a V1 or V2 instead of any iteration of V4. What is weird is the child morph that looks fine is a V4 figure also heavily morphed. Could this be some sort of cross talk?

What is strange is that I've used this combination of figures before without any such problems. THis is the first time since i saw it in Poser 4 with Vicki1 a long time ago.


EnglishBob ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 6:33 AM

I had this on a recent project. It was V4's hip that disappeared. When I examined the PZ3 file with an editor, it turned out that the:

{
storageOffset 0 0 0
geomHandlerGeom 13 hip
}

lines had disappeared from the hip actor. I edited them back in and all was well again, however that may not be helpful if you aren't happy editing Poser files. Of course this may not be the cause of your problem anyway...

I have no idea what caused it in my case, except that I had been doing a lot of work on this scene, trying various things, and that often results in what I like to call "Poser Rot". Some scenes have got to the point where I have no option but to recreate them from scratch if I want to continue working with them.

Forewarned is forearmed, as they say, so save early and save often - preferably to sequentially numbered files rather than overwriting the same one every time. 


shante ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 9:46 AM

I should save more often and when I do I usually create a different version. But this happened with the first version of the file I had not gotten to change. Guess not often enough?! Bummer.

I have drawings since I was a kid squirreled away in archival boxes....just because. Yet since I have been on this damn computer I have lost more years of work than I care to calculate.....and each time I have lost work it was while backing up.....tow times that actually and another time files I archived on the supposed 100 year life expectancy of cds which could not be accessed after only 8 years of excellent storage locale.  Go figure.

THANKS EB! Sounds about the same problem and you are right not for me to go and edit txt takes forever just typing this note with my dumb finger brain lag!


cspear ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 10:03 AM

The disappearing hip thing is something I used to get quite regularly: if I deleted the figure and loaded it again, it usually came in complete.

I have to say I don't thing I've had a single such incident with PP2012.


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shante ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 10:10 AM

Tried that as I stated above. Replaced it with the morphed version of the needed character as well as a raw LE unmorphed version of V4 from library with same gone hip.


WandW ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 10:59 AM

I take it that you checked the properties of the hip actor to see if the visibility was somehow switched off?

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Willber ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 12:38 PM

Had this same thing happen the other day with V4, PP2012.

Hierarchy says the hip is there and visible.

Sorry I have no answer.


shante ( ) posted Mon, 17 September 2012 at 5:24 PM

Quote - Had this same thing happen the other day with V4, PP2012.

Hierarchy says the hip is there and visible.

Sorry I have no answer.

 

Ditto all!


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