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Subject: Miki 4 Dev Suit & Dress Please!!!
Thanks Phil, yep, I'm after a quick suit dress and bodysuit MR.
I'm currently adapting a mesh I have, but it's a lot of poly moving and testing at the moment.
All the best.
LROG
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All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
With the mesh I have now I can make items dynamic or conforming.
Dynamic is easy as it requires no grouping or rigging.
At the moment it is just a mesh, no need for anything as tis is just to cut up to make other things.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Not hard to do and I got a better drape for it.
All the best.
LROG
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That looks quite nice, Richard! 
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For [basic] dynamics, no grouping is required, but if you want detailed dynamics with buttons and pockets, or even 2 sided cloth, grouping IS required, otherwise your buttons and other stuff just fall off.
Poser 10
Octane Render
Wings 3D
The shorter dress has a real 60's look to it. The new drape of the long dress is really nice.
What are you using to create that dress? I have so many problems with that in Wings, as it's not really set up to do soft modelling. I have tried importing my meshes into Blender and utilizing the shrinkwrap function, but it does something to my meshes and they fail in the cloth room in poser.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
Quote - > Quote - Dynamic is easy as it requires no grouping or rigging.
For [basic] dynamics, no grouping is required, but if you want detailed dynamics with buttons and pockets, or even 2 sided cloth, grouping IS required, otherwise your buttons and other stuff just fall off.
They don't fall off if you constrain them, but they deform really bad. That is a really nice looking scene.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
Quote - They don't fall off if you constrain them, but they deform really bad. That is a really nice looking scene.
Constrained group is for polys you want to stay in place, i.e. top of straps so they don't fall off shoulder.
Soft Decorative groups are for things that follow the main dynamic cloth during sim, i.e pockets.
Rigid Decorative group is like the soft deco group, but for hard objects that follow cloth, i.e. buttons, beads, etc.
I hope that helps some people out on what to set for which group.
...and ty, it was only a quick test scene to see how the shirt and boxers I made looked. It's actually a shirt for M4, but put it on V4.
Poser 10
Octane Render
Wings 3D
Quote - The Miki4 update for Clothing Designer is now ready.
Nice work Phil.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
When I mentioned grouping, I was on about grouping for conforming, eg, lCollar, hip etc.
I can do that with other programs.
This is how far I have got this afternoon doing the bodysuit. Again this is an adaption, and I've had to do a lot of poly, vert etc. moving to get to this point.
As you can see this is just a lores, still have to get the arms right yet, then I can go on to do a subdiv, mess around with paint displacement etc. to get a working mesh.
It can take a little while to get to what I need, but I've plently of time today.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Quote - Hi all, I'm using Silo to do all the work.
When I mentioned grouping, I was on about grouping for conforming, eg, lCollar, hip etc.
I can do that with other programs.
This is how far I have got this afternoon doing the bodysuit. Again this is an adaption, and I've had to do a lot of poly, vert etc. moving to get to this point.
As you can see this is just a lores, still have to get the arms right yet, then I can go on to do a subdiv, mess around with paint displacement etc. to get a working mesh.
It can take a little while to get to what I need, but I've plently of time today.
All the best.
LROG
Nice work there. I need to see about getting a program that I can learn so I can do soft modelling. Wings is cool, but it's 3 times as much work as you are doing there if I want to do something skin tight. Unless I cheat and just use the mesh from the character.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!
Quote - I posted a tutorial on making quicksuit bases a little while ago. For c4d, but you should be able to follow along in most modeling programs
http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?73070-Tutorial-Making-a-Quicksuit-in-C4d-%28for-poser-figures%29
Lyrra
I'll check that out. I have been finding that a lot of programs like C4D and Blender use poly-by-poly modeling which Wings can't do. Hopefully there isn't anything like that in this tutorial or I can't do it.
But thank you for posting.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
well in wings start with a box, and use the mirror thing. then when you get there set the neck, ankles and wrist holes to the Hole material or whatever its using these days for that.
Aside from that its mostly extruding and shaping. Wings does have a virtual smooth thing, though I'm forgetting what its called now. Wings may not do poly by poly, but it does do boxes-with-the-ends-cut-off .. which is close enough.
Lyrra
Quote - well in wings start with a box, and use the mirror thing. then when you get there set the neck, ankles and wrist holes to the Hole material or whatever its using these days for that.
Aside from that its mostly extruding and shaping. Wings does have a virtual smooth thing, though I'm forgetting what its called now. Wings may not do poly by poly, but it does do boxes-with-the-ends-cut-off .. which is close enough.
Lyrra
I'll give it a shot later. Right now I am working on something with hard edges that I am starting to like.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
Further to this, has anyone shared or published a Quicksuit base or dress base for Miki4 as yet?
I've been playing around with making some stuff now for Alyson2... to fit Anastasia and Shae... using Lyrra's excellent dev kit for Alyson2.
But I'm very keen to make some stuff for Miki4 too (as well as Tyler... but I've already been perstering Lyrra about him in another thread 
).
I know there is the rigged dev figure that comes with Miki4.
But I take it, in terms of modelling something for her, I'd still need to have a separate Quicksuit or Dress base mesh to use that with?
Many thanks
I used her DEV rig and a variation of Lyrra's tutorial to make a full bodysuit without making a separate Quicksuit or dress base mesh. It turned out fairly well, but I am in the middle of perfecting the technique so I won't post any examples.
If I had a nickle for ever time a woman told me to get lost, I could buy Manhattan.
waaait for it .... lol
I'm finishing up some v4 stuff that should hit the store momentarily, and a genesis outfit that had been put on hold for a bit - just needs MATs and poser format files now.
So once those are done I'm going to finish the alyson2 bodysuit, tyler magnets, ryan magnets and ryan devkit. Then I can make the miki devkit... so I'm afraid you'll have to wait for a teensy bit. And then get back to the other 24 products in my working folder. Argh
Too much work, not enough time. I need minions.
Lyrra
Cool - awesome to know you're planning to tackle Miki4 too. I can wait Lyrra... long as I know it's coming. LOL
I have my work cut out just now, making stuff based on your Alyson2 Dev Kit already... so it's not a problem. He he...
Trying to figure out how to use this Zipper tri-part brush in ZB currently, for that tracksuit I started for her... amongst other things. I'd get on with trying to rig the thing first, before modelling details like that... but I've had a Poser background render running for the last few days and scared to crash it!
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Hi there, just a quick please for a PA to do a Dev suit and dress for Miki4.
All the best.
LROG
Who honors those we love for the very life we live?, Who sends monsters to kill us?, and at the same time sings that we will never die., Who teaches us whats real?, and how to laugh at lies?, Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend?, Who chains us?, and Who holds the key that can set us free... It's You!, You have all the weapons you need., Now Fight!