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Subject: HUH? Since when are you allowed to show Genitals in promo's?


Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:14 AM · edited Fri, 22 November 2024 at 5:44 PM

I was looking at the Thundergod product recently released. Its full frontal lol..I did not know you could show Genitalia in promos. OR is it only a sensitive subject when it comes to females and their goodies? Thunder God for M4

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:22 AM

There is a "Content Advisory" sticker over the thumbnails... when I look at that product page. Was that missing before?

I think it's just the same rules for male and female?

e.g. thumbnails need to show "Content Advisory" if there is nudity?


primorge ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:25 AM

The one image where Thor is looking down at his junk is awesomely hilarious!

I'm pretty sure that i've seen female genitalia in promo's... Maybe it's just that male genitalia is more dangly and seems more obvious. Not to mention that unless V4 has genital morphs in the promo, there's really nothing there in terms of gross anatomy.


Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:40 AM

Ok. Then the guidelines for product submission need to be updated.

This is what it says.

  • No nudity. This implies no clothes, clothes that are transparent or blurring of nude images.
  • Tasteful breast exposure. No aureola or nipple exposure, and no transparent fabric.
  • No exposed buttocks - more exposure than a standard bikini bottom would constitute nudity.
  • No suggestive or sexual positioning.
  • No placement of the hands in genital areas including female breasts.
  • No child nudity.
  • No Sexually Suggestive Language, images or "Censored" language/images.

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ToxicWolf ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 6:22 AM

There is a little confusion about this. You are right about the rules you quoted, but there are also rules that say

  • Any image that displays nudity should be marked "yes" on the content advisory directly under the upload buttons.

  • One of the allowed images must include a front, back and side view unless not appropriate.

From looking at the promos, I think that is why that page was included.

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toastie ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 6:41 AM

I'm pretty sure I've never bought a character that didn't show the genitalia in the promos.

 


mrsparky ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 6:56 AM

The rule used to be... Danglies and wobblers on the first promo and on thumbnails are a big no-no. Bare bits are allowed on other promos, as long as the thumbnail says content advisory and the image isn't sexual.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



nobodyinparticular ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 7:01 AM

Quote - Ok. Then the guidelines for product submission need to be updated.

This is what it says.

  • No nudity. This implies no clothes, clothes that are transparent or blurring of nude images.
  • Tasteful breast exposure. No aureola or nipple exposure, and no transparent fabric.
  • No exposed buttocks - more exposure than a standard bikini bottom would constitute nudity.
  • No suggestive or sexual positioning.
  • No placement of the hands in genital areas including female breasts.
  • No child nudity.
  • No Sexually Suggestive Language, images or "Censored" language/images.

Wow!!! Following those rules would empty the store rather quickly ;-).

I believe the section you are quoting refers to thumbnails.  See the ending line of the rather large section just above.


LaurieA ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 7:51 AM

Yes, nudity is allowed if it's a skin that's being sold, and it's not the main promo and it's thumbnail has an advisory.

Laurie



Blackhearted ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:16 AM

nudity isnt allowed in your main promo - which is shown to everyone.

it is, and has always been, allowed in your auxiliary promos.

the rules quoted above are for the main promo.

"No Sexually Suggestive Language, images or "Censored" language/images."

^LOL, you have me to thank for the 'censored' thing. back under the Clint regime when nudity was first banned (you used to be able to have it right in the main promo, store thumbs, banner ads, etc) i started posting nude banners with a huge black CENSORED over their bodies in protest, and got a bunch of other merchants to follow suit. then they banned the CENSORED thing :)

ah the good old days. Rosity used to be like the Wild West, especially back in the days of the old Complaint and Debate forum :P



dphoadley ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:50 AM

Quote - I was looking at the Thundergod product recently released. Its full frontal lol..I did not know you could show Genitalia in promos. OR is it only a sensitive subject when it comes to females and their goodies?

Explain to us why you even care so much?  Or is this a left handed attempt to call attention to a Marketplace Product in order to boost sales?

I aske this because: 1. You got me to look at an M4 product when I have no use for M4 what so ever, and 2. There was no blatant nudity since all the nude stuff was hidden away behind 'Content Advisory' thumbnails.  Which means, one can choose to either look at it nor NOT to look at it.  Nothing is being forced!

Since you chose to look at it when you obviously didn't have to, I can only wonder what was it you saw that so required you to post this thread!

dph

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LaurieA ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:09 AM

Quote - ah the good old days. Rosity used to be like the Wild West, especially back in the days of the old Complaint and Debate forum :P

How I miss em. LOL

Laurie



Blackhearted ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:10 AM

Quote - Explain to us why you even care so much? 

its not that hard to connect the dots



Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:23 AM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:27 AM

Quote - > Quote - I was looking at the Thundergod product recently released. Its full frontal lol..I did not know you could show Genitalia in promos. OR is it only a sensitive subject when it comes to females and their goodies?

Explain to us why you even care so much?  Or is this a left handed attempt to call attention to a Marketplace Product in order to boost sales?

I aske this because: 1. You got me to look at an M4 product when I have no use for M4 what so ever, and 2. There was no blatant nudity since all the nude stuff was hidden away behind 'Content Advisory' thumbnails.  Which means, one can choose to either look at it nor NOT to look at it.  Nothing is being forced!

Since you chose to look at it when you obviously didn't have to, I can only wonder what was it you saw that so required you to post this thread!

dph

  1. Why would I want to boost somebody elses sales?

  2. Reason I asked was because for one of my hair products I wanted to show the Genital hair how It looks on Genitals but was advised against it.

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Janl ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:24 AM

Quote - > Quote - Explain to us why you even care so much? 

its not that hard to connect the dots

 

Nope.

 

A bit of a big deal about nothing really. :bored:


Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:38 AM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:50 AM

So to be clear..you can show Genitals as long as there is no intentional sexual aspect?

I started this thread because I am a vendor here and was unclear about what the limits of nudity in Promo images were. I apologize if anybody thinks I had other intentions.

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monkeycloud ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:24 AM

Ah, you were asking with regard to your body hair products Zev0...

I thought maybe you'd done some veinous system work for the genitals too... as part of the forthcoming vein products? :rolleyes:

(which look awesome by the way... waiting for the Poser version)


Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:36 AM

The Gen veins are still on the table:) but for now I am focusing on getting the Poser version complete. It's 1 click shaders are being developed by someone else that has done this type of preset application before. I will know more about its progress soon.

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PsychoNaut ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:40 AM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:40 AM

Quote - So to be clear..you can show Genitals as long as there is no intentional sexual aspect?I started this thread because I am a vendor here and was unclear about what the limits of nudity in Promo images were. I apologize if anybody thinks I had other intentions.

Well, I enjoyed it.  Ah if only "keeping the lawn mowed" IRL was as easy as a transparency map or separate prop.  :)


Zev0 ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:45 AM
Blackhearted ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 10:53 AM

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> Quote - Well, I enjoyed it.  Ah if only "keeping the lawn mowed" IRL was as easy as a transparency map or separate prop.  :)

 

....



Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 2:52 PM

connects dots

 

OOOOOOOH a duck!



RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:03 PM

I get confussed but deffrent sites rules.

No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

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RorrKonn ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 4:06 PM

dphoadley you made a genesis possetta morph yet ?

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Blackhearted ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 5:02 PM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 5:03 PM

Quote - I get confussed but deffrent sites rules. No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

they even remove nipples and penises from their characters rolleyes

theres something horribly backwards with modern North American society.  people have conniption fits over something like Janet Jackson's 'nipple slip' and it makes the evening news and frontpages of papers and magazines for weeks on end.
yet every day parents leave comments on fantastically violent movies like Rambo IV and SAW asking if there is any nudity, because theyd like to take their kid to see it.  so its perfectly fine to see dozens of people dismembered or Sylvester Stallone jacked up on HGH cutting about 400 people to pieces with a .50 cal machinegun and then eviscerating someone with a knife, but GOD FORBID your child see a bared nipple. it might warp their innocent little mind.

or its ok for your kid to play a virtual gangster, deal drugs, jack cars and massacre entire cities in Grand Theft Auto but god forbid they see a pixellated low-res 3D breast in the game -- then its time to start the petitions and pitchforks and lawsuits going.

/rant



Kendra ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 8:02 PM

Have you brought this up in the vender forum?  I'm not up to date on anything new in the marketplace so that's my best advice. 

...... Kendra


moriador ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:38 PM · edited Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:44 PM

Quote - > Quote - I get confussed but deffrent sites rules. No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

they even remove nipples and penises from their characters rolleyes

theres something horribly backwards with modern North American society.  people have conniption fits over something like Janet Jackson's 'nipple slip' and it makes the evening news and frontpages of papers and magazines for weeks on end.
yet every day parents leave comments on fantastically violent movies like Rambo IV and SAW asking if there is any nudity, because theyd like to take their kid to see it.  so its perfectly fine to see dozens of people dismembered or Sylvester Stallone jacked up on HGH cutting about 400 people to pieces with a .50 cal machinegun and then eviscerating someone with a knife, but GOD FORBID your child see a bared nipple. it might warp their innocent little mind.

or its ok for your kid to play a virtual gangster, deal drugs, jack cars and massacre entire cities in Grand Theft Auto but god forbid they see a pixellated low-res 3D breast in the game -- then its time to start the petitions and pitchforks and lawsuits going.

/rant

Well, how else are you going to persuade enough 17 year olds to join the military except by making violence seem entertaining? I mean, I guess you could make college so expensive that attending means the prospect of high interest debt repayment for the first half of your adult life. But we'd never allow that... ;)


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mrsparky ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 9:47 PM

I mean, I guess you could make college so expensive that attending means the prospect of high interest debt repayment for the first half of your adult life. But we'd never allow that... ;) Thats easily solved. become a poser content creator. The 'salary' is so low, you won't earn enough and won't have to pay your student loan back :)

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



Eric Walters ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:09 PM

I remember that! And Osity and that OTHER site were part of the same "family" so to speak. :-)  I got used to the ruleZ and to date-have yet to post a Nekkid Posette, er Vicky in a Temple-with or without a sword. :-) If I recall- ALL NEKKIDNESS was relegated to the OTHER site-whether "tasteful" or not. Or was that under the early PoserForum ONline with Willow and Clint.....

Quote - nudity isnt allowed in your main promo - which is shown to everyone.

it is, and has always been, allowed in your auxiliary promos.

the rules quoted above are for the main promo.

"No Sexually Suggestive Language, images or "Censored" language/images."

^LOL, you have me to thank for the 'censored' thing. back under the Clint regime when nudity was first banned (you used to be able to have it right in the main promo, store thumbs, banner ads, etc) i started posting nude banners with a huge black CENSORED over their bodies in protest, and got a bunch of other merchants to follow suit. then they banned the CENSORED thing :)

ah the good old days. Rosity used to be like the Wild West, especially back in the days of the old Complaint and Debate forum :P



Eric Walters ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:17 PM

 Gabe

I LOVE this topic! I would stand on MY soapbox-but you pretty much encapsulated my points in a neat package.

Coming soon to Theaters (everywhere but the Bible Belt) "Janet and the NIPS of DOOM!"

An entire civilization layed low by one Nip Slip. An Entire Generation Destroyed! "The CHILDREN must not see!" Wait- I mean, I always close my EYES when I take a shower but it seems that I have a BURIED memory of once seeing myself in a mirror-without a shirt. Could it BE? AAAAAAAHH I have TWO of those Horrifying THINGS on my chest. Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Quote - > Quote - I get confussed but deffrent sites rules. No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

they even remove nipples and penises from their characters rolleyes

theres something horribly backwards with modern North American society.  people have conniption fits over something like Janet Jackson's 'nipple slip' and it makes the evening news and frontpages of papers and magazines for weeks on end.
yet every day parents leave comments on fantastically violent movies like Rambo IV and SAW asking if there is any nudity, because theyd like to take their kid to see it.  so its perfectly fine to see dozens of people dismembered or Sylvester Stallone jacked up on HGH cutting about 400 people to pieces with a .50 cal machinegun and then eviscerating someone with a knife, but GOD FORBID your child see a bared nipple. it might warp their innocent little mind.

or its ok for your kid to play a virtual gangster, deal drugs, jack cars and massacre entire cities in Grand Theft Auto but god forbid they see a pixellated low-res 3D breast in the game -- then its time to start the petitions and pitchforks and lawsuits going.

/rant



Eric Walters ( ) posted Fri, 02 November 2012 at 11:22 PM

 Gabe

I LOVE this topic! I would stand on MY soapbox-but you pretty much encapsulated my points in a neat package.

Coming soon to Theaters (everywhere but the Bible Belt) "Janet and the NIPS of DOOM!"

An entire civilization layed low by one Nip Slip. An Entire Generation Destroyed! "The CHILDREN must not see!" Wait- I mean, I always close my EYES when I take a shower but it seems that I have a BURIED memory of once seeing myself in a mirror-without a shirt. Could it BE? AAAAAAAHH I have TWO of those Horrifying THINGS on my chest. Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Quote - > Quote - I get confussed but deffrent sites rules. No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

they even remove nipples and penises from their characters rolleyes

theres something horribly backwards with modern North American society.  people have conniption fits over something like Janet Jackson's 'nipple slip' and it makes the evening news and frontpages of papers and magazines for weeks on end.
yet every day parents leave comments on fantastically violent movies like Rambo IV and SAW asking if there is any nudity, because theyd like to take their kid to see it.  so its perfectly fine to see dozens of people dismembered or Sylvester Stallone jacked up on HGH cutting about 400 people to pieces with a .50 cal machinegun and then eviscerating someone with a knife, but GOD FORBID your child see a bared nipple. it might warp their innocent little mind.

or its ok for your kid to play a virtual gangster, deal drugs, jack cars and massacre entire cities in Grand Theft Auto but god forbid they see a pixellated low-res 3D breast in the game -- then its time to start the petitions and pitchforks and lawsuits going.

/rant



RorrKonn ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 1:24 AM

It's fine with me if DAZ does not want any nudity.
I think of DAZ as the Disney of Poser / D/S-Pro world
We can post nudity at other Poser / D/S-Pro sites.
and we could post Poser / D/S-Pro porn at other sites.

or we can get our own site ,do what ever we want.
true story
when rorrkonn.com was online a father emailed me cause his kid saw rorrkonn.com at Warcraft frozen thrown site where we battle each other to death.
but his kid saw rorrkonn.com followed the link .pretty much same art that's in my gallery here.
I told him it was tagged MA get the kid protection app's.

Same Art hangs on ,my walls.
I got my son when he was 9 the gov. came to my house they all saw the Art hanging on the walls.
Not a word from them.

A church saw rorrkonn.com I think they had the hole church email me over 100 emails
where they accused me of being evil and a devil worshiper.etc etc.

Anyways if nothing else humans are amusing.

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PsychoNaut ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 10:16 AM

Quote -  Gabe I LOVE this topic!...  (nipples)... Could it BE? AAAAAAAHH I have TWO of those Horrifying THINGS on my chest. Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

Quote - > Quote - I get confussed but deffrent sites rules. No nude anything,any where at DAZ.

they even remove nipples and penises from their characters rolleyes

theres something horribly backwards with modern North American society.  people have conniption fits over something like Janet Jackson's 'nipple slip'... ... violent movies like Rambo IV and SAW...

/rant

 

Agreed with all.  
One thing I've always wondered is what to guys even NEED nipples for?  I personally hate having the damn things.  They get right in the way.

Also, on the subject of nudity and violence...  I suppose I shouldn't admit this, but I enjoy both.  I prefer nudity and sex in my stories and films, but if the violence is a creep gettin' what's comin to 'em at the hands of a wronged ex-victim, it just seems so right.  I don't know.

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Eric Walters ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 2:51 PM

Pychonaut

I agree- I love seeing the bad guy get trounced by the intended victim. Cathartic! Creep picks on girl- girl master martial artist-uses him as a punching bag...

There was a video making the rounds- starts out like the typical horror flick- sexy girl alone in house- power shuts off-only moonlight. Phone call- "I'm coming for you!", phone cuts out. He scraping on the walls- suddenly he is INSIDE! Ratttatattat! Girl opens up with machine gun.... Guy is toast. Was a very clever high qual add for a gun store btw.
 

"Agreed with all.  
One thing I've always wondered is what to guys even NEED nipples for?  I personally hate having the damn things.  They get right in the way.

Also, on the subject of nudity and violence...  I suppose I shouldn't admit this, but I enjoy both.  I prefer nudity and sex in my stories and films, but if the violence is a creep gettin' what's comin to 'em at the hands of a wronged ex-victim, it just seems so right.  I don't know.

Body Hair:  man I've given up.  I'm just gonna let it all grow.  Huge bushes everywhere. :D



RorrKonn ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 10:44 PM

Quote - Pychonaut

I agree- I love seeing the bad guy get trounced by the intended victim. Cathartic! Creep picks on girl- girl master martial artist-uses him as a punching bag...

There was a video making the rounds- starts out like the typical horror flick- sexy girl alone in house- power shuts off-only moonlight. Phone call- "I'm coming for you!", phone cuts out. He scraping on the walls- suddenly he is INSIDE! Ratttatattat! Girl opens up with machine gun.... Guy is toast. Was a very clever high qual add for a gun store btw.

I'm still waiting on the curupted .gov and big business to get theirs.

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 03 November 2012 at 10:57 PM

"Since when are you allowed to show Genitals in promo's?"

Since the early 70s at least, I mean Deep Throat came out in … Oh, promos - not pornos - never mind.

"One thing I've always wondered is what to guys even NEED nipples for?"

You mean yours aren't you know*,* I mean sensitive, in a good way? 

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