Hey guys, I've been learning Poser's cloth room to get clothes to fit certain type of characters better but am running into a brick wall as far as clothes with 1 material zones staying on them, and clothes "tightening up" on them (such as bras, panties, tight shirts/pants).

First off, I'm using Poser9 on WinXP, and to let you know what knowledge level I'm at, I do know how to convert clothes to dynamic clothes (export/import obj), and how to set them to simulate, and some of the settings.  I do understand the basics of what "Constrained", "soft/rigid decorated", & "Choreographed", and I believe "default" (or a new dynamic) groups use the properties on the right side (ie. Fold Resistance, stretch resistance, etc...).

The problem I'm having is making clothes hug characters instead of just drooping around or falling off.  I've tried searching tutorials but have yet to find anything specifically such as this.

Does anyone know a good setting for a tight fit, and if I have to create a new dynamic group instead of using the "default" group?

Also, I've read that the default settings are set as cotton, what would be best for jeans?  And leather, and such?  Does anyone know anywhere to find such suggestions?

Thanks for all the help I can get, if you just point me to a tutorial, please... by all means, point me specifically where, in the tutorial, I should read, I really don't have time anymore to read hours before finding my answer.

...wolfie

philC had some presets for different fabric for the clothroom.

I sometimes just clothify a part of the clothing like a sleeve or abdo just to add a little realism. "Hybrid"

Quote - philC had some presets for different fabric for the clothroom.

I sometimes just clothify a part of the clothing like a sleeve or abdo just to add a little realism. "Hybrid"

Thanks, friend, can you point me to where his presets are?

Attached Link: http://www.philc.net/ClothRoomPresets.htm

Ijust googled and found this link.  But I haven't used these in a long time and don't even know if they work on latest poser version.

Hi Wolfie!

I hve PP2012 & Phil's presets work terrific.  No worries there.  The reason clothes are falling off is that you need to parent them to your figure.  Most get parented to the hip, but dresses, I parent to the chest or abdomen so they don't fall.  As far as shrink wrapping the figure, I haven't tried. 

I'm just learning dynamics too but I had to do it because I made this cute little dynamic outfit I wanted to use.  I'm starting to get the hang of it, but I had the same issues you did.  :-)  Phil has a tutorial for dynamics on his site with the belly dancer dress & it will really help you too. 

Hope this helped. 

Lynn

 

P.S.  I'd love to be able to figure out how to create a hybrid rig without using the ghost bones rig for it, but one step at a time for me-lol.

With dynamics, you don't necessarily have to parent it to the figure, but you DO have to set it to Collide with your figure.

For a really tight fit set the figure up at frame 0. set final pose at say frame 30.

scale figure to 95% at frame 0 , and 100% at frame 30.

Run the simulation.

This should get you a "shrink fit".

you can also scale the clothing instead, 100% at frame 0 and say 95% at frame 30.

It takes some tinkering to get a good look.

Yep, scaling is the trick.  I did a top recently, and scaled v4 from 85->100, and the outfit 90->100.  Worked like a champ!  It gave a real good spandex effect across the chest, versus that form-fitting look

Now that sounds like it should work, and it's a very nice trick, thanks so much, markschum & 3doutlaw!!  I tried it and it worked great (just scaling the clothes so far) for the panties, the shirt is a bit more trickier but will try scaling V4 as well, still experimenting.

And thanks everyone for all the other answers, I downloaded PhilC's presets and they work fine!

Here's the result so far... was playing with her hand sneaking under the shirt, beautiful!

Shirt is 3DAge's "Honey" with Silver/Inception's "Insomnia" textures and my "pink cotton" type surface settings (their setting was great, but I wanted a cotton shirt instead of a leather look).

Panty is 3DAge's "Excitement" with my surface settings.

Character is... well, a secret for now, but remember "No quicky, no glow, no bad works, no bull" (SSS version) ;)

Here's the render, thanks again friends!

...wolfie

The shrinking to normal size V4/shrinking clothes worked beautifully, just tried it :)  Again thanks!

BTW in the image, there's only two lights, one back/left rim and one front left, both point lights, no shadowless garbage or trick lights.

...wolfie