OK, I have just starting playing with poser4 and I have rds5.5 and painter3d, I have maybe read too my options or just have my versions mixed up. I just need a general direction, I want to do two things, Create a new figure out of two seperate ones...lets say a horese and human ( the body from one and the head of another) I just read the book poser3 handbook and understand the way he does it but somethings he talks about in the book dont seem to match in poser4, There has to be a better way ? Also, poseable armor, could someone just give me an overall view... I want to make a transpartent chain mesh...do the shaders I create in rds (with transparnt parts) show up in poser4...(exported in obj)..Please just set me off the right direction... I think i am reading items from workarounds of version 3.....Someone just set me straight....Please Fleanbilly spike@loveable.com

I can help you with the combining of figure the only way to save combined figures is to just save them (file/save or save as.). Unless someone else has discovered differently which is very possible. You can't save 2 different characters as one in the figures library it will only save one at a time , which ever one is the main one at that time. The create new figure button doesn't seem to do anything except with my computer freeze it up. When I first got Poser 4 I tried making a centaur as they show you in the book got frustrated called MC and was told I was actually trying to do something that isn't that easy. Then I was told about Renderosity ( which was Poser forum then). I hope this helps somewhat

Thanks for the response, So the only way to combine two figures is to make body parts invisable and save the whole document ? ( also setting a new parent for the visable parts)...what about these phi editors ? and cr2 editors ? what do they do ? Fleanbilly

I have never quite figured them out, so hopefully someone else will tell us both what to do with them. But as to the figures yes that is the only way that I know and have read of.

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You can actually save two figures in a CR2 file. What you do is combine your figures as detailed above. Then open a character library where you want your combined figure to go and click on the "+" to add the figure. What this does is build a CR2 with the currently selected figure in it and an RSR with the image of the combined figure. Now, save your combined figure as a PZ3 as normal. Now comes the really complicated bit..... Move your PZ3 file to the same directory as you saved the figure to. (So, if you added the figure to the library New Figures, move the PZ3 file to ...Runtime/Characters/New Figures). Delete the CR2 file and change the PZ3 extension on your file to CR2. Ta-Daaaaa Now, when you click on the figure in the library, you'll get both figures, joined together, exactly as you saved them. Hope this helps (and makes sense - if not, just let me know) Paul

Posted the same question the other day. Got these responses, all work. Viper: what i do is save my charater with clothing as a .cr2 file in the library. then save the scence as a .pz3 file and then rename the pz3 file to the same a the cr2 and then i can open it in poser from the menu. i works most of the time Im hopeing mason will have a tutorial soon JeffH: You can only save one figure per CR2, but there is a way around this. Save your file as a pz3, then manually rename it to .CR2 and put it in your library directory overwriting the CR2 you made in your first attempt. -JH. JeffH: Viper, Integrating the P4 clothing into a figure is easy. Using this figure and clothing as an example: Open the P4nudemale OBJ in Compose, then Open the shorts OBJ merging it with the file already open. Save the OBJ file to a new name in the same directory as the nude figure. Open the p4 nude male CR2 in an editor such as CR2editor and change the two directory references to point to your new OBJ file. Open this new edited CR2 inside Poser, let the resource build and there you have it...the nude male wearing the shorts. -JH. Bam: Here's another way. You can save (normal save)the figure with clothes and in posed position in a .pz3. Then import the .pz3 using the import function. In this way you can save various figures and poses in separate files and then import them all in when you want to compose the whole scene *************************** I love this forum Hope this helps bob