Is the difference between Vue 11 and vue 10 huge? When looking at the feature list, the majority of changes seems to be in the ecopainter, but if those are really needed changes or not, I cannot figure out. Of course, there's the addition of particles, but I'm looking at Vue Studio with addition of the Ecopainter Module, so can't do much with the particles at all. Perhaps someone can give a bit more detail on what the ecopainter changes are and perhaps also the main differences between vue11 and 10 in day to day use.

I can't shake the feeling that going from 10 to 11 doesn't bring much new things at all and that it's not worth the money asked for the upgrade, since the changes and additions are minor.

I also did see that the rendering can be 30% faster, but no one seems to confirm that. Some people feel that it is faster, but cannot substantiate their claims. Are there hard numbers, is it really faster or does it only seem faster? I'm a long time Poser user and many users there FEEL that Poser Pro 2012 renders much faster then Poser 9, but as seen as you start timing, it turns out to be the other way around. that's why I'm a bit cautious when people say I feel it's faster.

Any input on the differences between Vue 11 and Vue 10 would be great, so I can make up my mind if it's reallt qorth the upgrade or not.

You pretty much have to upgrade if there is content you want that's only for Vue 11, or you're using the Xstream version that has to talk with some new-fangled 3DS or Maya, etc.

If you've seen the new features and you're still not sure about upgrading, save your money for something you know you want.

Yes, the rendering engine IS substantially faster.

Am not sure where the 30% figure comes from - may be an average of rendering times across a variety of scene types.  However, in a timed comparison I've made (on an admittedly very fast machine), render times for five scenes of different complexity ranged between 23 and 58 % faster. I am comparing Vue 10.5 Infinite against Vue 11 Infinite. I used a SSD (solid state drive) for the test, which should have eliminated artifacts caused by placement of the application and the scenes on the drive, and irregular spin-up times and so forth. I rendered each scene twice in both versions, with negligable measurable differences in the two trials per scene.

This couldn't be considered a definitive answer because there are an awful lot of variables that affect rendering times in different kinds of Vue scenes. I was just curious for myself and it was easy to make this kind of casual test to get some sense of the difference. But I'm satisfied that the Vue 11 rendering is all they say it is.

Can't speak to the ecopainter issue.

Thanks for the answers and taking the time in helping me out!

Rendering times for animation when you are using GI/GR are much faster, maybe as much as 3 times faster due to the way the rendering reuses lighting.

For anyone rendering animations this is worth a lot of money!

I'm only doing still images, no animations at all, but thanks for pointing it out.

Really think Vue 11 has some new functions that Vue 10 doesn't have,should upgrade for it.