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Subject: Poser 10 renders with differences from the older versions


3Dream ( ) posted Fri, 24 May 2013 at 3:25 PM · edited Fri, 13 December 2024 at 12:52 PM

Hello

I bought Poser 10 and I am noticing that the renders are different from Poser 9. The transparencies get too thinner and less visible in the renders and the colors and MATs do not work with the same results as in the older versions.

Am I missing something?

Sorry for my bad English (It's not my mother language)

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willyb53 ( ) posted Fri, 24 May 2013 at 3:30 PM

I dont have Poser 10 ( or pp2014, waiting for phyical copy) but it sounds like you need to turn off gamma correction or change the gamma on individual materials (new in 10)

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ghostship2 ( ) posted Fri, 24 May 2013 at 4:03 PM

I think it's safe to say that people using the newer versions of Poser will have GC on and vendors should be including maps with their stuff that have the correct gamma.

 

Artbee has a great PDF on the use of gamma correction  in poser

http://www.book.artbeeweb.nl/?p=317

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hborre ( ) posted Fri, 24 May 2013 at 6:41 PM

Yep, Cg.  Poser 10 is now equipped with it, so to get similar result to older version, render Cg must be reset to 1.


ghosty12 ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 12:12 AM

Quote - Yep, Cg.  Poser 10 is now equipped with it, so to get similar result to older version, render Cg must be reset to 1.

Cg or you mean GC?  All I know is most times I turn gamma correction off or tone it down because it changes some textures in a way I don't want it too.  

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NanetteTredoux ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 12:51 AM

Snarly's scenefixer is very helpful to take care of that, fixes the gamma on your transparency maps all in one go.

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aRtBee ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 2:30 AM

For Poser 10 users, and everyone else new to Gamma Correction, my tutorial on this matter might prove helpful: http://www.book.artbeeweb.nl/?p=317

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chanur56 ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 3:10 AM

I use Foxit reader for pdf-files. With your file it says "not a PDF or corrupted". Any hint which reader I can use instead?


aRtBee ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 3:52 AM · edited Sat, 25 May 2013 at 4:01 AM

@chanur - not your fault, I get download issues myself as well - on all my PDF's, using Adobe Reader.
Something screwed up my site (again), which gives me something to do for the weekend :(
EDIT - the download manager misses 8kb in all transmissions, what the heck! Bug in the Wordpress plugin I guess.

In the meantime, the webpages are available (you can walk through them using the Articles section at the bottom of the page).

Thanks for reporting this!!

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hborre ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 7:27 AM

Oops!  Right Gc.  I really should check my messages before posting.  Thanks for the correction.


estherau ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 7:33 AM

thank dog you corrected your mistake.

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aRtBee ( ) posted Sat, 25 May 2013 at 8:37 AM

@chanur (and everyone else) - my Worpress Download Manager plugin is reported broken in support forums indeed, I've contacted the supplier. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Temporary fix: my site now includes a menu entry !Download Fix! referring to a page surpassing the download manager. You can get all downloads there, for the moment. Use right-click Save As to reel the files in without opening them.

Thank you for your interest.

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3Dream ( ) posted Sun, 02 June 2013 at 1:37 PM · edited Sun, 02 June 2013 at 1:38 PM

Thank you a lot for participating in this thread!

I already found a way to avoid some strange renders that were rendering hair transparencies too thin and weired skin colors.

I have disable the Gamma Correction in the Render Settings and now the renders work without problems as they work in Poser 9 and Poser older versions

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estherau ( ) posted Sun, 02 June 2013 at 6:00 PM

you can either turn GC off, or if you want GC just use one of the scripts that automatically turns to 1 all the GC for textures that are grey scale such as trans maps and displacement maps etc.

there is actually one called changegamma in poser if you go to the materials room and look in userdefined.

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mackis3D ( ) posted Mon, 03 June 2013 at 2:45 PM · edited Mon, 03 June 2013 at 2:50 PM

Quote - For Poser 10 users, and everyone else new to Gamma Correction, my tutorial on this matter might prove helpful: http://www.book.artbeeweb.nl/?p=317

 

Aside from not being to open that file on your website your refer to 'Poser Pro 2010' "and up"("Gamma Correction as in Poser Pro 2010 and up differs completely from the traditional approach."). "And up" refers to PP2014 too? Because something is different between Poser Pro 2010 and Poser Pro 2014.


aRtBee ( ) posted Mon, 03 June 2013 at 3:26 PM

@mackis3D

please do use the !Download Fix! menu entry to acces the downloads directly, as the download manager on my site tends to corrupts the files :(
Is under investigation with the supplier.

Gamma Correction in Poser refers to: Poser Pro 2010, 2012 and 2014 as well as Poser 10. It's not available in Poser 9, 8 or before.

The Poser approach is
 - to apply anti-CG to images/maps and to color swatches
 - to render
 - to apply GC to the resulting image
while traditionally (Photoshop, LuxRender), only the last step is performed. As a result, simply stated, Poser-GC mainly affects (softens) the results of lighting, shadowing and shading while leaving the main coloring intact. As a side effect, it distorts some elaborated materials like turning Vickys standard HiRes materials into the pale fulltime smoker zombie look. It also forces one to pay explicit attention to the settings on transparancy maps, bump maps, etc.

What exactly have you found to be different? Perhaps it's possible to attach an image to illustrate.

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mackis3D ( ) posted Mon, 03 June 2013 at 6:14 PM · edited Mon, 03 June 2013 at 6:15 PM

I understand how GC works. I don't have a problem with it. I used it already with former Poser Pro versions. :-) But the OP is wondering about something in the settings that may have changed since the last version. hborre writes that Poser 10 is now equipped with GC, the former Poser standard versions were obviously not. So he is right: If the OP wants his render look like they did before he has to set it to 1. That topic sounds familiar from the days when Poser Pro came with GC. But I think the users are better off when they read your manual and use GC. And of course the already mentioned free Scenefixer python script to correct all gamma maps. It's worth it. Poser renders of today don't have to look like in 2006.


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