http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2868999

This was posted in the Freestuff Forum and I know not everyone follows that forum.

Not my post, just thought more of you might like to see what it says ;). It's interesting, to say the very least..hehe.

Laurie

Thanks for the heads up, looks interesting!

Definitely of interest to Poser users!  They shoulda posted it here!

Oh well..it's here now. LOL

Laurie

Very interesting......

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

I'm dying of curiosity.

Who is the "person who created the original Victoria and Michael models? Not to mention all the subsequent versions and spin-offs, as well as countless head and body morphs, both realistic and fantastical, and more?"

Was it one person?  Are they still working for DAZ?  (Does Genesis 2 count as a "spin-off"?)

Something tells me they do NOT work for Daz anymore ;). But I really have no idea. LOL

Laurie

E-on got the same spam from the Marketing guy from DAZ3D.  Steve something.  Forgot his name already.  At first I thought DAZ was announcing Studio 5 today.

So this is a new DAZ product?

Not Victoria 6, I assume, or Genesis 2, since those do not work natively in Poser.

Kondris?

Laurie

Quote - So this is a new DAZ product?

Not Victoria 6, I assume, or Genesis 2, since those do not work natively in Poser.

If it's a V6 clone it sure doesn't look like it from what I can see of the face.

From the wording of the original thread I'm not gonna say it sounds anti-Daz, but maybe anti-Daz corporate entity. LOL Maybe I'm just reading into it ;).

Laurie

Quote - From the wording of the original thread I'm not gonna say it sounds anti-Daz, but maybe anti-Daz corporate entity. LOL Maybe I'm just reading into it ;).

Or maybe DAZ has some bizarre new marketing scheme?

Quote - > Quote - From the wording of the original thread I'm not gonna say it sounds anti-Daz, but maybe anti-Daz corporate entity. LOL Maybe I'm just reading into it ;).

Or maybe DAZ has some bizarre new marketing scheme?

I suppose anything's possible, but I have my doubts ;) I don't think this is like a Daz-3D/Zygote split thing.

Laurie

Well, I checked the domain names using a WhoIs search.  The owner of Hivewire3d.com is Eric Merritt of Lehi, UT.

DAZ3d.com is owned by DAZ, of Draper, UT.  Judging from this, I'm guessing Shawn is mistaken, and this did not come from DAZ marketing.

Or maybe he thought this was a V6/Genesis 2 thread?

Quote - Kondris?

Laurie

Yep.  e-on deleted the thread as spam.  His post was kind of creepy malware looking though.  :)  He couldn't just say "Vicky 6 is out"?  Hell's Facebook is being all secret about what he already announced about V6 on DAZ3D.  Their marketing of V6 is all out of whack at the starting gate.

This thread is not about V6.  Did you click the link?  It goes to a post in the Rosity Freestuff section.

The link is the mysterious free thing that is being spammed everywhere.  Did Steve quit DAZ3D and start another site?  Is this spam to get us to look at DAZ3D's site for new announcements?  It got me to look.  I haven't been over there in a year.  I'll be surpised if this mysterious figure, with the same features as V6, is actually free.

So Steve Kondris is the one who sent this out? 

Interesting.  It obviously is one or more people who used to work for DAZ, or still do, since they claim to be the ones who created Mike and Vicky. 

The question is...do they still work for DAZ (this is some kind of guerilla marketing technique), or have they created their own company to compete with their former employers?

I have not heard Steve Kondris' name in ages, and I had assumed that he left DAZ.  His linked in profile suggests that is true.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/steve-kondris/0/b09/6a5

DAZ is listed as a past employer.

Someone tell Steve Kondris about Kickstarter so he isn't spamming his mystery messages on every CG forum.  That is so 2000 marketing.

Quote - Someone tell Steve Kondris about Kickstarter so he isn't spamming his mystery messages on every CG forum.  That is so 2000 marketing.

And obviously not very effective, if what it did was prompt you to go to DAZ to see what's up.  :-)

FWIW, Steve (or whoever it is) has posted some replies in the Freestuff thread.  He says the new free figure will have separate DS and Poser versions, and compatibility with previous generations will be through some kind of conversion utility.

Hmm...I heard someone say Chris Creek ;). They did some digging. LOL Maybe it's both of em ;). I'm still interested...lol...maybe even moreso now. Heh.

Laurie

If it works natively in both Studio and Poser, it's likely not weightmapped...

It says it IS weight-mapped.  There will be separate DS and Poser versions.

A lot of DAZ people left around the time they rolled out Genesis and the new store, so maybe there's several of 'em in on this new venture.

Missed that bit; thanx Randy.
 

Is Dan Farr still with DAZ?

Last I heard, Dan Farr had stepped down from his day to day job at DAZ, but is still involved.  Absentee owner?  On the board of directors?  Something like that.

I had googled Dan and the last references I found were over a year old...

Is this the same Dan Farr?

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Comic-Con-producer-talks-about-Salt-Lakes-first/HgNuruOJrky9XvK58GLx6A.cspx

Quote - http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2868999

This was posted in the Freestuff Forum and I know not everyone follows that forum.

Not my post, just thought more of you might like to see what it says ;). It's interesting, to say the very least..hehe.

Laurie

ooOOOooOOOooOOO soooooo hopping in my seat for that. THANK YOU laurie for posting that as I never go to that forum.

Pretty likely it's him.  The 'con is listed as a Dan Farr Production, with him as President on its site and there is no mention of DAZ...

Quote - Is this the same Dan Farr?

http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story/Comic-Con-producer-talks-about-Salt-Lakes-first/HgNuruOJrky9XvK58GLx6A.cspx

That's him. Notice the resemblance to Mike 1 and 2. LOL

Laurie

Chris Creek is apparently no longer at DAZ, and his Bio says that he "Personally created the now famous Victoria and Michael figures."  :blink:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/christopher-creek/46/8a4/592

Amazing detective work going on!!!

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Check out the thread, BIG names are appearing.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Lots more info has been posted in the Freestuff thread.

The new figure's name is Dawn.  (I was just going to guess that - since the thread was called "the Dawn of a new day.")

"HiveWire3D" (the user name) is indeed Steve Kondris. 

Quote - HiveWire 3D was founded by Chris Creek, who many of you already know of. Chris first began in the 3D industry at Viewpoint Data Labs in 1991 as the lead anatomy modeler. While there he modeled the Toddler which later became the ridiculously-popular "Dancing Baby" seen in media spots throughout 1996-1998. Chris eventually left Viewpoint to become the President/Co-Founder of Zygote Media Group where he modeled the revolutionary Poser figures: The Dork and Posette. These two figures created a new market and new business opportunity. Upon this realization, Chris and Dan Farr decided to part ways from Zygote and created DAZ 3D where Chris was the Executive Vice President/Co-Founder for nearly a decade. It was there Chris modeled the ground-breaking 3D figures: Victoria and Michael. Prior to devoting his life to 3D and digital content, Chris worked as a freelance artist and painter which at the time allowed him to be home with his wife and three young boys. Now Chris has brought his decades of art and business experience to HiveWire 3D, modeling (among other things) our core female figure, Dawn. Chris finds happiness in being able to create art across a variety of mediums, and 3D is something he's never been able to let go of. But, I've found that for Chris, it's not just about creating great art, it's every bit as much about the joy that his artwork can bring to another. Chris creates out of love and what he creates he loves to share. After Chris left DAZ for the second time in late 2012, he found himself wanting and needing to create again. In the solitude of his home, Chris began a new project, and as it grew from a mere primitive cube into a beautiful new figure, he decided to share it with the 3D community that he still felt very much a part of.

Along side Chris are several others who also have a love and passion for 3D. One key individual is Eric Merritt. A graphic designer since 1988, Eric got his first taste of 3D when he was hired by Viewpoint Datalabs in 1991 to layout their 3D model catalog. It was there that Eric met Chris Creek, and together with another individual they founded Zygote Media Group. Eric eventually made his way over to DAZ 3D where he help design and manage the development for a majority of the user interface that makes up the core software program: DAZ Studio. In addition to this, Eric spearheaded the streamlining of the content download process, the development of tutorials, and more. Eric is also a co-founder of the unique, user-friendly AniMate and AniBlock system, designed and sold by GoFigure. When Eric was approached by Chris to co-found a new company, he jumped at the opportunity.

We have several other artists from within the community that are working together with us to help make this all a reality, and they shall reveal themselves at their own discretion. But we are very excited about the interest that Dawn has been receiving and we hope that we can deliver to everyone's expectations at least somewhat. We do not pretend to think that Dawn will be everything to everyone, but we hope that she can be something enjoyable to many.

And then, last and probably least, is me, Steve Kondris, (the primary author of this "HiveWire3D" user account, btw). I first got into the world of 3D back in 2000 when I joined Zygote Media Group's tech support staff shortly after the release of Michael 1.0. I then followed Chris and Dan to DAZ 3D where I had the opportunity to help in multiple roles over my 11+ years there. I left DAZ and the world of 3D in 2012 for a period as I explored other opportunities with various companies across the country, but when Chris called me up in late May, I found myself very excited at the chance to get back into the world of 3D and am happy to be back.

Together, we are focused on one thing: Doing what we love.

We have no agenda, nor other motive, other than to have the freedom to do what we love without the handicaps of big business mentalities or red-tape. We are a down-to-earth group that is sincere in our desire to do what's right and have fun while doing it.

We hope that we will have something of value to add to this great community, that is full of so many talented artists, and by doing so help provide even more potential for great art to be made by anyone.

KenG, the bird guy, has also joined Hivewire3D.  That's why all his birds are gone from the DAZ store.

Cripes!!! I'm openning a popcorn store over at DAZ!!!! LOL.

Once they find out that Ken's stuff has gone there will be more upset people!!

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Sounds like they are committed to supporting DS users as well as Poser users, and presumably Ken's products will be available at the Hivewire3d site, so hopefully they won't get too upset.

That's the difference, supporting BOTH....

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Well, they won't give a solid date, but they say they are packaging her and her release is "close."

Hopefully not "DAZ close" ;-)

Quote - Cripes!!! I'm openning a popcorn store over at DAZ!!!! LOL.

Once they find out that Ken's stuff has gone there will be more upset people!!

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

If your store is like my post, it will be shut down immediately.

I am sure that the impending release of Dawn has nothing to do with the sudden unleashing of genesis 2/Victoria 6.

Sigh.  The only thing I have to say is "Oh, all this time I didn't even realize that there was a forum for the freestuff".

Quote - Sigh.  The only thing I have to say is "Oh, all this time I didn't even realize that there was a forum for the freestuff".

Awww...sea, really? LOL

Laurie

They  posted a pic of a new character btw on their FB page. Looks nice :)

Laurie

Really.  I knew where to upload freebies, but I never noticed that there a forum.  I guess that I need to get out more.  No, wait, that should be "stay in and cruise forums on the computer more".

It also sounds like HiveWire3d will be opening a store!!! With the pros that are behind this new project, I think we have a real contender for the next great thing in the Poser/Daz world.

This is great news!

On a somewhat related note.. which may be old news but since I've been away from Poser Land for so long...

Whatever happened to Anton Kisiel? Last I heard he has jumped into Second Life entirely.. Any news after that? 

He's working at a hair salon in Maine.  The last I saw him post anywhere was around the time M4 came out, so that's been 4 years or so.  He still has Apollo available, but the bits that weren't complete still aren't...

So the download links to Apollo are fixed now?  Did Anton fix them? 

I don't know, but I tried sending him a note on Facebook, and they are now working...

They've been fixed far as I know...

Laurie

Thanks! I was afraid Apollo would be lost to newcomers.

OMG it was like looking at a 3D figure coming to life!  Dan farr looks exactly like Michael 2!