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Subject: The Plant Factory?


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czarnyrobert ( ) posted Thu, 08 August 2013 at 5:06 AM · edited Thu, 08 August 2013 at 5:17 AM

Do you have any alternative interface color shemes delivered with TPF ?

If not, you can try some I devised while working on interface colors :

 

http://graphique3d.w.interia.pl/DOWNLOAD/Interface_Colors.zip


blaineak ( ) posted Fri, 09 August 2013 at 12:19 AM

Robert,

That is close to what I ended up with. I'll try that out thanks.

I have no doubt anything a person could conceive in an interface would be beyond reason. I do like the interfaces in Vue and now Plant Factory far better than others I use.

My most hated is likely Lightwave.

I don't see any interface color files in any folders, I'll download those. Thanks so much.

Still Pre-Release 6, although I see changes happening at the site tonight. Maybe first release tomorrow?

Will there be more example plants?


czarnyrobert ( ) posted Fri, 09 August 2013 at 8:16 AM

During developement process of TPF, I have created about 100 plants for e-on.

Just a bunch of simplest ones is shipped with TPF.  I think that the rest e-on will put in their C3D store.

By the way, I have uploaded a new image - ilustration for "The Invincible" novel by Stanislaw Lem. You can check it in my gallery. 

There will be more !  It took me one year to build this space ship :-)

So it would be a waste to use it just for one image. 

Enjoy !

 


aeilkema ( ) posted Fri, 09 August 2013 at 8:52 AM

Quote - During developement process of TPF, I have created about 100 plants for e-on.

Just a bunch of simplest ones is shipped with TPF.  I think that the rest e-on will put in their C3D store.

I know it's not your fault, but what's new..... first ask people tons of money for the application and give them some teasers with it and then ask tons more if they want to good stuff.

Do you have renders of the better stuff? The plants I've seen so far haven't exactly impressed me, looks like anything I could create with the Vue Botanica Module, don't need to spent lots of money for that at all. I'm still waiting to see some impressive hero trees, so far I've only seen medium/background stuff.

Artwork and 3DToons items, create the perfect place for you toon and other figures!

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=23722

Due to the childish TOS changes, I'm not allowed to link to my other products outside of Rendo anymore :(

Food for thought.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYZw0dfLmLk


blaineak ( ) posted Fri, 09 August 2013 at 1:06 PM

aelikema,

I'm sure when the plants start hitting Cornucopia you will see plenty.

Overpriced, yes.

Should come with more and better plants, yes. Should have at least one set up with age, season and so forth as an example to learn from.

Users should be able sell or give away plants in other formats, yes.

Comparable with Vue's plant editor, no way; not even remotely in the same league.

Buying at the initial very low price turned out to be a good idea IMO. At full price I never would have done it and I'd be using XFrog still.


czarnyrobert ( ) posted Fri, 09 August 2013 at 3:07 PM

aeilkema  -  the complexity (and detail) of plants made in TPF depends anly on your determination and what your computer can handle.

I think that all best images have been already posted on the plant factory website.

In TPF content you will mainly find low poly models I was asked to create for Lumen RT.

You should also notice that when using models in ecosystems, they get highly decimated  (there is a setting in plant root to turn it off).  So I saw some pretty lousy images of big acacia tree - it looked ugly just because of high decimation.

TPF has some automated decimation, so models at distance are generated with fewer polygons, however in mine opinion you one should use different kind of models for background, mid, and closeups.  It would be completely impractical to put huge, complex models into ecosystem to create distant forst - for distant forest old Vue plum tree does great job.

TPF is very differnt from old "Botanica" system. In old system plants have been created in windows notepad :-)   Really !  It was a simple L-system, and code could be typed in any text editor. Geometry was limeited to cylinders, paraboloids and spheres.  Now you can do much more in TPF, however L-systems had also some recursive functionality which is missing in TPF. Neverthless TPF can do much more than old Botanica, and much easier.  Coding plants in L-System was like MATRIX :-)

 

 


estherau ( ) posted Thu, 12 September 2013 at 7:05 PM

Hi czarnyrobert,

congrats on making this very interesting software.  I have some questions.  I have vue 11.5 xstream.  (because I used to use C4D but I couldn't afford to upgrade it and have lost interest in C4D), and I have cityengine - the version that can export .obj

what is the integration thing with plantfactory and CE?  Or does one need lumen (which I can't understand what it is for - like is that just for making videos?)

I make still scenes for my comic with multiple panels but no video.  I would like to make cities with trees, cars and plants together.  Is plantstudio something that would be useful for me.  How would it work with CE in my situation?  Should I buy lumen and plant factory?  If so which versions - my main desire is for quick and easy premade stuff.  ie I would probably use preset plants.

sorry for all the questions.

Love esther

MY ONLINE COMIC IS NOW LIVE

I aim to update it about once a month.  Oh, and it's free!


czarnyrobert ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2013 at 7:04 AM

Quote - Hi czarnyrobert,

congrats on making this very interesting software.  I have some questions.  I have vue 11.5 xstream.  (because I used to use C4D but I couldn't afford to upgrade it and have lost interest in C4D), and I have cityengine - the version that can export .obj

what is the integration thing with plantfactory and CE?  Or does one need lumen (which I can't understand what it is for - like is that just for making videos?)

I make still scenes for my comic with multiple panels but no video.  I would like to make cities with trees, cars and plants together.  Is plantstudio something that would be useful for me.  How would it work with CE in my situation?  Should I buy lumen and plant factory?  If so which versions - my main desire is for quick and easy premade stuff.  ie I would probably use preset plants.

sorry for all the questions.

Love esther

I have no idea about integration with CE - I don't have CE so far.

You should ask e-on technicach stuff about it.

TPF works fine with Vue, but with other applications you can just export to 3DS, OBJ or FBX format.   It means you get good geometry, and bones in branches (so you can animate them) but billboards are exported as static planes, and this is bad, as non rotating billboards produce poor results. 

Also Vue procedural materials can't be properly exported (just a generated bitmap, but this reduces resolution - good news is that I rarely used procedural materials for models I prepared - bitmaps offer nicer, more realistic results.  There is really very little procedural materials (if any).

But please check for details with e-on technical stuff, it was a couple of months since I didn't work on TPF, so maybe they suceeded to implement some more advanced integration with external applications.


estherau ( ) posted Mon, 23 September 2013 at 12:15 PM

Hmm it looks like it integrates when u look at their promo for lumen. But maybe not?

MY ONLINE COMIC IS NOW LIVE

I aim to update it about once a month.  Oh, and it's free!


czarnyrobert ( ) posted Sun, 06 October 2013 at 9:10 PM · edited Sun, 06 October 2013 at 9:13 PM

Attached Link: GREEN GENE

Hi Everybody !

Just a quick note, I am building a website about 3D plants creation, various informations about virtual vegetation - reviews of software, different approaches adapted by various editors etc... Tutorials / Download does not work yet, but the rest is in pretty good shape already. 

Let me know if you like it, and what would you like to know about 3D plants :

greengene.republika.pl


Stan57 ( ) posted Mon, 18 November 2013 at 12:17 PM

Content Advisory! This message contains profanity

Quote - Plant Factory was a promising app, but now that E-On has announced the pricing, it suddently looks less interesting.

http://www.theplantfactory-tech.com/index.php?post/2013/06/03/Plant-Factory-%E2%80%93-Product-Lineup%2C-Pricing-and-Pre-Release

 

I realise this is an old comment but i just couldnt help myself 700.00 is IMO an abusive priceing hell for an extra hunderd get Zbrush which is 10,000 times more powerful. Thast progran shouldtnt be more the 200.00 but 700.00 thats ass rape pricing. soosry for the explct words but i thnk in this instance its more then warrented..

Jack Of All Trades Master Of None


blaineak ( ) posted Mon, 18 November 2013 at 5:38 PM

@ Robert

Cool site and thank you for assembling all those links in one place.


blaineak ( ) posted Mon, 18 November 2013 at 5:49 PM

@ Stan

ZBrush is great for some static plants but it's not going to be a sollution for animations or speed. I agree Plant Factory is overpriced but it's also very powerful and truly easy to use thanks to the UI.

XFrog Basic is not much and lately it is at half price. It's also great for modeling plants and easy to use. I use it a lot and highly recomend it.

ZBrush is not a good answer if you need a forest of unique plants that will react to the wind in an animation or even in a still. ZBrush would not be of much use.


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