Wouldn't zombiehalloween style images have to have the violence tag set on if the content was of that nature?

That way, those that have those options set to not show, wouldn't see them.

People want others to take responsibilities these days for them, instead of doing it themselves.

I wonder if these people, watch the news, read newspapers, open the curtains and go out in the real world.

Perhaps their cotton wool suits won't allow them to do so.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

A lot of this boils down to the question "What is the purpose of Art?"

I have always felt that the purpose of art is to evoke emotions, the stronger the better.  The works of H.R. Giger is a bit different than say, Norman Rockwell.  Giger's work speaks to me, whereas Rockwell's paintings of an America that never was, I feel, has done a lot of damage to my country.

I have no problem with avoiding galleries, or even items in the marketplace. If it carries a warning, I can easily avoid it. More discretion about what goes onto the front page of the site would be appreciated though. I totally agree with "If it offends you, don't look". But don't rub my nose in it. Give me some choice.

If you're upset by what is in the galleries, then you REALLY need to see what it is that we reject and remove. A good part of the job of Moderator here is doing gallery duty. Each and every day we get at least a dozen or so images that need ot be reviewed either bacause they are mis-flagged, or just plain need removing.

And for a site that tries to project SOME sort of moderate image, some of the things that are removed are quite unthinkable.

My point: You are not seeing the worst of what is posted here. It is a seriel nightmare trying to keep it as clean as it is.

Lets see, it was Halloween, Rendo had a Halloween Sale on, what do you expect they were going to show?????

Every October, most stores have a Halloween Sale and people know what is coming.

It's not hard to understand the concept, Rendo and the other stores cash in on the event.

They have a render contest, not hard to understanhd the concept.

Those that don't like the events, items or pictures, it's very easy not to go to various sites.

The other thing as well, it's no good complaining at just one store, go complain to the other stores you mentioned. I have had a look and I don't appear to see the same message on their sites. If you say others do it s well, then do them the curtousy of going and explaining why you want to change things.

I have seen this so many times, Huge outcry as whatever upsets some people, then when you look at it, only about 5 people have actually said anything, while a lot more have enjoyed it.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

A site has a responsibility to its members and to those depicted in the images uploaded. The reason I bailed from DA was in my view it ceased to protect the people in the images displayed (i.e. in my view I no longer believed they were willing participants in some images) . With 3D this is not a problem and to some extent we are judged by our peers but with photgraphs it is a different matter. Renderosity's TOS protects us from having to make that decision which I'm grateful for.

This is the 3d site where I spend most of my time and money, where I have been a member longer than any other site where I visit, and where I contribute just about everything I create for the members. So it is natural that this would be where I would express a concern. I was making an observation about the 3d industry in general, I am under no obligation to mount a site-to-site campaign. 

It is fine to disagree with me Paganeagle. Have you read the text in your signature lately? The thing is, other people have principles too. (Ignore button used on Paganeagle).

Yes, I have read my signature, it is from the film Sucker Punch and refers to the abilities we have, those are the weapons we have and fight with.

Amazing that people use the ignore button when they cannot respond with a constructive argument for what they believe.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

Happy Samhain folks - may your sacrificial bonfire ne'er go out :)

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Coldrake

"Reality TV shows scare me more then zombies." Thanks for the laugh!

For me the gory stuff is not scary so much as repulsive. "Things that go bump in the dark" are more scary. I've not watched much TV in the last several years-but every now and again I turn it on-and am surprised by what they can show on TV. I guess it's just the times.

I've not seen the Zombie show-but it does explain why there are so many "Zombie" related books showing up in the Science Fiction/Fantasy section of my local book stores.Even a "Zombie Private Detective" series!

I saw the same trend when the Sparkly Vampires came on the scene-lots of Vampire related books-some actually good. In most cases there were good vampires that had a kinder attitude towards humans-while still needing blood to survive.

Quote - The game resident evil was very successful.
companies tent to try n copy what was successful.

excludingresident evil movies .
most horror movie are cheep to make like reality tv shows .
reality tv shows scare me more then zombies .

Meh, I think it's all in good fun.  Maybe it goes a bit over the top at times but I find it very interesting that other forms of "depravity" are acceptable.  Gore - bad.  Skimpy outfits - good.  :P

Maybe I'm younger than everyone, maybe not (I'm 45) but there were questionable video games (Carmageddon, even far back Bilestoad, Leather Goddesses of Phobos), RPGs were "satan worship" and Judas Priest/Iron Maiden/Dio were brainwashing the youth of America.

There were tons of violent, scary and gory horror movies - Halloween, Friday the 13th, The Thing, The Fog all the Troma stuff and so on.

Zombies?  Pretty much the first revival was in the early 80s.  Day of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead, Return of the Living Dead.

Sexy Vampires?  Been done before.  You guys ever watched the Hammer Horror movies?  Much of it bordered on soft porn to boot.  Langella's Dracula, Fright Night, Vamp - all had sexy vampires.  Granted they weren't sparkly emo vampires (thankfully).

I don't think much has changed at all.  It has progressed more because of folks desensitizing but they pushed the boundries back when I was a kid and they are still doing it now.

If we had instant information (internet) and the mobile device boon we have now back then, I really think this would be about the same.  And with the rise of morale right that was prevlent in the mid-80s, you'd likey have groups running around trying to burn the internet. :)

I curse the modern age at times like everyone does but for entertainment we are in a pretty good spot.  We have more choices than ever and more ways to choose.  I think Neflix, Prime and going to network sites to watch shows is a blessing.  I find tv commercials seriously irritating and I've become less patient with them as I've gotten older.  If I had to sit though all that crap to watch the Walking Dead, I wouldn't bother.

The only thing remotely "horrifying" about Twilight is the fact that it became so huge. 

It has nothing to do with horror. Sparkly "vegetarian" vampires who don't drink blood. That's what you get when you let a morman write about vampires. So be it.

The Vampire Chronicles - Anne Rice. Not horror, great vampire reads, all centered around the human condition, (especially Interview). At least the first 3 books - 5 and 6 were great too. After that she kind of forgot what she was writing about and Lestat just became too obnoxious to suffer through anymore. 

Dracula was always a love story first and foremost. People seem to forget that. 

~Shane

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I curse the modern age at times like everyone does but for entertainment we are in a pretty good spot.  We have more choices than ever and more ways to choose.  I think Neflix, Prime and going to network sites to watch shows is a blessing.  I find tv commercials seriously irritating and I've become less patient with them as I've gotten older.  If I had to sit though all that crap to watch the Walking Dead, I wouldn't bother.

The Walking Dead is a family social event at my house. Every Sunday night my little bro and his wife bring their baby over, my 20-yr old niece and her boyfriend come over, my older bro and his son, we all make a big dinner and watch TWD. Can't hear crap while it's on cause no one knows how to shut the hell up til the commercials, but it's still fun. And it replays afterwards a couple times so I can re-watch the parts I missed. 

~Shane

Twilight was invented for girls who had never had a boyfriend so they could simper and sigh about how a guy was unatainable and would never notice them.

I watched the first 10 minutes when it appeared on satellite tv, wondered where the story was and switched over to something that had a storyline.  only watched it to see what all the fuss was about. Lol.

Twilight = South park episode where they drink clamto juice.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

LOL, I was speaking more to the recent portrayal of vampires as sexy.  It isn't recent.  Here's some more: The Lost Boys, Lifeforce, The Hunger, Vampire Hunter D, Lair of the White Worm.  I'm writing without regard to gender.

And in the 90s you have another resurgence.  Bram Stokers Dracula, Innocent Blood, Buffy (and the Series), From Dusk Till Dawn, Carpenters' Vampires, Blade and more.  All hot gals or guys playing vampires.

IMHO, from the 60s onwards, Vampires have been played by hotties more than notties.

Buffy worked as you had both good sides and bad sides of most of the characters, who would have thought that nice Willow could be as bad as she was when she turned into Wicked Willow!!!

Same with Spike and Drusilla, both interesting charatcers with weaknesses that were allowed to be shown.

Now, what do we get..... Sparkley vampires for the teenage girl market. Simper, wish, more simpering for 3 books!!! Lol.

For the sparkley ones, I seem to get the feeling of the South Park episode with a certain big mouse company trying to sell little girls purity rings!!! Lol.

All the best.

Great Uncle LROG

I can't stand halloween either.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

When I was around four years old I was already a horror fan, nothing bloody, gory, or cannibalistic scared me.  

Then one day someone gave me a childrens picture bible.  For the first time I was scared to death, there was so much blood, suffering, and murder in that book all with pretty little pictures to show me the details.

What I was to believe was good just turned out to be scarier than any fake movie or image I had seen before that.  Everyone has their own opinion, and to me the blood, gore, and all out dark creatures on these sites (many that I purchase and use often) are neater than the many perfect faced girls with the same button noses.

To each his own...

Although these images don't seem to affect me (I ignore and move on), videos do (never watch 'em anymore).

However, what would help EVERYONE is better classification of images & marketplace items! 

First, SEARCH SUCKS on Renderosity. M.a.j.o.r.l.y. Classifications / Hierarchical tags would help tremendously.

Second, I'd appreciate a filter!! Nude-doesn't matter, Gore OFF. Or if showing the site to others at work or shopping for models with friends, nude off, gore off. 

Please?

Quote - Buffy worked as you had both good sides and bad sides of most of the characters, who would have thought that nice Willow could be as bad as she was when she turned into Wicked Willow!!!

Man, I LOVED the Evil Willow story arch. I was wishing they would have carried that story line much further, but they ended it too quickly. Still, Alyson Hannigan is awesome when given a chance to shine. At least I think so. The stuff she's done since really doesn't appeal to me but I keep hoping she'll show up in another role similar to Willow's darker side. Remember her sexy leather-clad vampire dopleganger? Awesome. 

~Shane

Maybe if you didn't come across as belittling people paganeagle they wouldn't put you on ignore? Just a thought. Not everyone is going to agree with everyone else. Been that way since time immemorial.

I know Rendo has the tags in place to hide certain things like nudity and violence. Maybe the Halloween images aren't being put under the correct tags? Maybe it needs a violence tag? ;). I'm just brainstorming. LOL Might be a way to make everyone happy.

FWIW, I really liked the New Orlean's style tombs that came out this year ;). Even if I don't much care for zombies. LOL. Those however could work for so many different themes like grief, voodoo, etc :) I'd imagine there are a lot of products that could double as something other than Halloween.

Laurie

Laurie, I think a horror tag would work as a lot of halloween (and most of it I don't like besides the little beggers) falls under horror.

Direwraith: that's human history for you.  Things being relatively nice now is not normal.

"Tranquillity lane" by Danie and Marforno and some of Mortemvetus's props and scenes at RDNA are beautiful and can certainly speak to themes like loneliness, grief and so forth.

I was wondering what would be appropriate to tag as "violence". Must it be the act of violence happening in the image, or would the results of violent acts also count? Is a dismembered body "violence" or is it just gore? For me it feels as if it should have a violence tag, even though the violence isn't shown, but only the results of it. I recognise that it is very difficult to define limits and guidelines for these things.

Quote - Nanette, I agree completely.
Computer games for kids are also becoming more violent, and the results are everywhere.

Less violence and crime and lower murder rates, you mean? (Look at the actual stats, not what's on the news or what people think is true).

IMHO, if an image shows someone cutting off a leg, that's violence because it's active.  If it's just "oh look, a leg"... gore :)