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Subject: Is Something like THIS Possible in Poser? An Idea, theory, but not sure

Ragtopjohnny opened this issue on Dec 06, 2013 · 16 posts
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Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 7:11 PM · edited Mon, 10 February 2025 at 7:16 PM

Hey all -

I've seen tons of great vehicle models, but one thing I have not seen in the stores are atmospheric accessories for vehiclular renders.

What i'm talking about here is when you see a car doing "Donuts" or spin outs in a parking lot or just peeling out.

Is an effect like that possible in Poser?  What I have in mind is sort of like cloud creation in Flight Simulator X.  You can see 3D clouds in the sky, and it looks amazing, with varying degrees of density and so forth as you fly.  (That's my other hobby).

So, to keep this short, and to kick it up and down the flag pole, anyone think this is doable?

 

 

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meatSim ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 7:47 PM

I think these sorts of effects are often done with cone or sphere shaped props plus transparanecy and texture mapping

estherau ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:06 PM

Yes, you can buy it at DAZ3D  it's called:-

Dust and Trail Tool

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estherau ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:07 PM

seriously, does not posting links do anything good for anybody, even renderosity.  if someone wants this they will still find the site, but it's just more work.

What a silly rule.

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estherau ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:09 PM

also ifyou want to do post work, then go to daz and search the word deviney

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XoechZ ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:27 PM

The best, most flexible and most effective way of inserting such effects is postwork!

If you have those things as props in your scene you will always have problems, especially with unwanted shadow casting.

There is really a very rich variety of brushes and png files which makes it really easy to add those things in postwork.

estherau ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:32 PM

can't you turn off cast shadows for a prop?

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XoechZ ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 9:41 PM

I am not very familiar with all the Poser options yet, but I am sure that is possible.

But what about "shadow accept"? Or whatever you name it, meaning the shadow that falls on an object. Can you turn that off too?

hborre ( ) posted Fri, 06 December 2013 at 11:01 PM · edited Fri, 06 December 2013 at 11:03 PM

You can turn off shadow casting on just about everything in a scene.  And applying a little ambient illumination or plugging shaders into alt_diffuse would cause enough self illumination to prevent shadows from falling on the models.  The problem with atmospheric  accessories is render time as influenced by transparency maps.  If you can find a way to read such maps quickly with IDL rendering then you can incorporate many such objects within a scene without worrying about crashing.

raven ( ) posted Sat, 07 December 2013 at 12:51 PM

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This wheelspin smoke was done using Bagginsbill's freebie smoke plume, but for single images doing it in post would definately be easier and quicker.


Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Sat, 07 December 2013 at 12:58 PM

Thanks for everyone's input.  I appreciate it.  Estherau, looking over at Daz for it.  Wish they could post links would be alot easier! :).

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 

Ragtopjohnny ( ) posted Sat, 07 December 2013 at 1:03 PM

Someone beat me to it with that dust tool, but don't mind.  Just what I was looking for with those effects.  Gotta have it.   I don't do animations yet, but will look cool with some spinning tires and burnouts in the back. 

Really appreciate everyone's input, and until my next question, have a good one all! 😄

 

Poser Pro 2012/3DS Max 2013/Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Zbrush/

PC: HP Z820 Workstation, 3.30 ghz 8 core Intel Processor, 2gig nvidia Quadro, 16 gig of Ram and 2TB Hard Drive.

 

arrow1 ( ) posted Sat, 07 December 2013 at 3:04 PM

Where do you get Bagginsbill's freebie smoke plume from? I went to the Google site and I cannot find it! Cheers

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raven ( ) posted Sun, 08 December 2013 at 5:33 AM

You can get it from this thread at RuntimeDNA, on the second page.

http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?31335


arrow1 ( ) posted Sun, 08 December 2013 at 2:13 PM

Got it! Many thanks.Cheers

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jamminwolf ( ) posted Mon, 09 December 2013 at 11:42 AM

Hey, raven, thanks for that link, this is a very cool & different prop to add to my runtime, I'm thinking to use it as a chiminy (spell?) smoke :)

...wolfie

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