I'm starting to get sick of the grain factor with 400 ASA film. Gonna be breaking out the tripod with some low speed film now. As of now, I know Ilford still might be seeling 25ASA film. Any other recommendations as to 35mm film with an ASA of 100 or lower that isn't overly expensive or anything (c'mon alpha, I know you must have a couple of ideas...)?

So, you want us to recommend something good to put in yer camera, Slynk? I recommend a 64mb card for starters.....lol!!! (Mike get's first shot in Round 1) (",)

OK. What are you intending to take pictures of? As you well know, 400 ASA is good for moving targets. Night photography I would suggest 400 perhaps 200. BUT I gather you want a low grain NAD a lot of color how about 200 then. it's not that grainy. If you really and to go for the gusto there is the film which is used for holograms. I think it's got a ASA rating of 0 - 5 or something like that! How about if you use slide film. It's designed to be blown up and it had plenty of color. I would suggest Fuji Sensia. You can develop it at home if you really want to. Since there are slide developing kits available where you don't have to deal with constant water baths. Bsteph

I agree with alpha, If you are looking for black and white film I would go with the kodak t-max 100 (my personal favorite for large format zone work) very nice film to work with. As far as color films the BEST color transparency film is fuji VELVIA iso64 very low grain GREAT color (favors green eg. foliage) Most professional nature photographers use velvia. And ALWAYS, even wlith faster films, use a tripod. (yes there are exceptions) Generally, using a tripod makes me slow down a bit and take my time setting things up. I guarantee that it will help compositions at the very least. f/64 baby.

Slynky, Here is one man's opinion... There are many iso100 speed films available that offer very bright colors with minimal grain. Such as gold 100 and superia 100. HOWEVER!...There is one film that I have recently stumbled upon that I can not stop raving about. I have had very consistent results with very bright colors and very fine grain. The difference is, it has EXCELLENT SKIN TONES which is very hard to find in the previously mentioned films. What is this miracle film you must be wondering?! Fuji Reala 100 It is an amazing film and you won't be disappointed Slynky. Another option would be NPH but I stand firmly behind Reala. It's not too expensive so do me a favor and try it out. I am very interested in hearing what you have to say about it. I would also encourage others to let me know what they have to say about it. Keep me posted... -Andrew

Thanks for the suggestions people. One thing though, colour is not a factor, I'm still using only black and white.

When it comes to black and white, you may give up some contrast but you will find no finer grain than in the c-41 black and white films. Printed on black and white paper, you'll get super-fine results.

B/W I agree with Alpha. Kodak T-max 100. I gather you are developing the film youself. You can develop color film at home now. I've done it in the past and it was very easy. I didn't need a rotating water bath. Seriously it was no problem. I can hunt down the chemical processing company if anyone is interested. Bsteph

Ilford makes a great 50 ISO black and white film (Look at B&H Photo's web sight and you'll get a good deal.) and I think they also still have the 25. (Also Check B&H Photo.) For color I recomend Fugi Supra 100, thow it's said to not be as sharp as kodak, my expiriance says other wise, and the saturation is incredible. -Gabe-

big thanks people. Kissies for all

Ugh. I don't want your kisses, you've been foolin' with yer cat.....