it's BLINDINGLY white! AND cannot function AT ALL with IE 8....so another way that the programmers are FORCING us to use Chrome or Firefox... 

at the very LEAST, please make the interface for reading/replying to our IM's a soft gray for our older eyes!??! 

New browsers support new Web technologies (like HTML5 and CSS3). These languages serve as a foundation for many websites today, and for virtually all new websites and Web apps. But unfortunately, many of these new websites will neither look nor function in the same way in old browsers like IE8. Also, jQuery v2, the major javascript framework, no longer supports IE6, 7 & 8.

If you’re on a system at your place of employment where you’re not able to upgrade or download a new browser,  Chrome Frame is a viable option. You don’t need any special administrator privileges to install Chrome Frame, so you can keep using the same version of Internet Explorer, and almost instantly have a far superior browsing experience that’s identical to using the latest version of Google Chrome.

New Browser Options

Google Chrome

In May 2012, according to at least one statistics website, Google Chrome (all versions combined) became the most popular browser in the world (compared to IE, all versions combined). Chrome was first released in 2008, and has a number of advantages over old browsers like IE8.

Mozilla Firefox

Firefox has been the main competitor to Internet Explorer since the mid-2000′s. Although Google’s Chrome has become more popular in recent years, Firefox is a great browser with many advantages over old browsers.

Internet Explorer 11

@Lyne - Just did some IE8 fixes for you in the Sitemail area. Let me know how it works, you should see major improvements in both design and funtionality. Might have to do a hard refresh. If not seeing dramatic improvements I'd love a screenshot plz.

Thanks for the patience, IE8 likes to put us developers through the ringer. 

Quote - New browsers support new Web technologies (like HTML5 and CSS3). These languages serve as a foundation for many websites today, and for virtually all new websites and Web apps. But unfortunately, many of these new websites will neither look nor function in the same way in old browsers like IE8. Also, jQuery v2, the major javascript framework, no longer supports IE6, 7 & 8. If you’re on a system at your place of employment where you’re not able to upgrade or download a new browser,  Chrome Frame is a viable option. You don’t need any special administrator privileges to install Chrome Frame, so you can keep using the same version of Internet Explorer, and almost instantly have a far superior browsing experience that’s identical to using the latest version of Google Chrome.

I'd like to make a few points regarding the above.

I don't advise Chrome Frame, because Google itself is/has discontinued support for it.

http://blog.chromium.org/2013/06/retiring-chrome-frame.html

And while I agree that older clients don't support some of the features of newer ones, tools like HTML 5 Shims, and development practices like progressive enhancement, or graceful degergration should allow a web app to work even on most older clients provided they are used.

As for jQuery, unless you are specifically concerned about features exclusive to the 2.x codebase, you are still able to take advantage of the 1.x codebase, complete with updates (becuase they do still support it), which, via proressive enchancement, you could use a tool such as Modernizr to test for features specific to older IEs, and if true, load the lower codebase. 

http://blog.jquery.com/2014/01/24/jquery-1-11-and-2-1-released/

What I am basically saying here is, if you really wanted to, it's entirely possible to make the site work on older clients while still retaining everything for newer clients. As as a front end developer I really dislike having to support older editions of IE, but really, as long as Windows XP has a sizable marketshare supporting back to IE 8 isn't that hard or time consuming.

And yes, I agree if you are on Windows 7 or higher, you should be on IE 11 (chances are you were force upgraded to it with a Windows update and never noticed).

IE8 doesn't work very well on a lot of sites anymore (no HTML 5 support) and it's not very secure (later verions of IE are much more secure). Programs that use the IE WebBrowser control for displaying webpages, which is quite a few, are having the same problems on XP/IE8 systems.

MS will soon not update XP with security updates anymore anyway, basically it's not very secure compared to newer versions anyway so the best thing is to upgrade to Win 7 or 8 which will solve all these problems.

All IE8 issues should be fixed, our programmer did find some awesome fixes. So these issues should now be fix for most of our IE users as well as any android phone/tablet issues. The fixes even give IE8 responsive layout functionality as well.

If you do see any issues please let us know.

Quote - IE8 doesn't work very well on a lot of sites anymore (no HTML 5 support) and it's not very secure (later verions of IE are much more secure). Programs that use the IE WebBrowser control for displaying webpages, which is quite a few, are having the same problems on XP/IE8 systems.

MS will soon not update XP with security updates anymore anyway, basically it's not very secure compared to newer versions anyway so the best thing is to upgrade to Win 7 or 8 which will solve all these problems.

Microsoft backpeddled and exended Windows XP secuity support till 2015.  So IE 8 wil continue to get security updates.

I agree, sites which use custom IE controls are going to have problems, that's not the same thing however as being unable to support HTML 5, because you can easily have fallbacks for most non HTML 5 content.  Apple's website does this with CSS transitions on their main image sometimes, where the fallback for clients without it, is a single static image.

Also, not every current browser fully supports all parts of HTML 5.  So, to have a graceful application, you need to do feature detection, and load only what the client can actually use.  In the case of IE 8, you get square corners instead of rounded ones, but hey, it still works.

I just installed IE 11 and I can now TOSS CHROME IN THE WASTE BASKET! wooo hoooo!!!

so now I am happy with Rendo working super fine in IE!!

and thanks for fixing the white on the IM pages... IM area is working perfectly in this IE 11 too!! yayayayay!

Good news.

If Lyne is happy we are happy.  LOL

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