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Subject: 3D (as in pictures with depth) Rendering


basicwiz ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 3:33 PM · edited Sun, 03 November 2024 at 12:49 AM

Am I the only one who is interested in this? It's simple to do with Poser. If anyone else is playing around with stereo images, I'd like to start a discussion of techniques and options.


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 4:15 PM

can you post a pair of side-to-side images (bluegreen/red)?  I got some glasses to watch "Machete" that I could look at yours with.



MikeMoss ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 4:24 PM

Hi

I'm into the 3D stereo thing.

I use it mostly for gaming.

I'm running nVidia 3D Vision on a 27" Asus monitor.

I've messed around with it in Poser and gotten some pretty good results.

If Sparky is around here, he made a Python Script that took the left and right images automatically without having to manually move the camera.

I lost it when I switched to my new computer and I haven't found it so I can set it up in Poser Pro 2014.

Mike

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


mrsparky ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 5:44 PM

Attached Link: http://www.stereoeye.jp/software/index_e.html

*If Sparky is around here, he made a Python Script that took the left and right images automatically without having to manually move the camera.* Not me - that was someone much smarter :) Though if you google "Poserdirect Concepts and Tutorials" , you can find a few thoughts and approaches on doing this. Mostly if working with red/blue glasses get the freeware "Anaglyph Maker" via the link above.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



Miss Nancy ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 6:30 PM

APS CSE also does those.



JohnDoe641 ( ) posted Mon, 28 April 2014 at 9:50 PM · edited Mon, 28 April 2014 at 9:51 PM

I don't make anaglyph images since the TV downstairs is passive 3d. All I have to do is render two offset angles, import the stills into Vegas as a 3d film and render them out as an avi. After that, I just need to do put on the passive glasses and I've got 3d poser renders on our 47" 3d tv in full color.


MikeMoss ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 10:28 AM

Hi again.

I'm using Stereo Photo Maker for images and Stereo Movie Maker for video.

http://www.stereo.jpn.org/eng/stvmkr/index.html

http://www.stereo.jpn.org/eng/stphmkr/index.html

Both of these programs have worked very well for my over a number of years.

Mike

 

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


aRtBee ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 11:14 AM

Anything that stimulates creativity is fine, of course.

I once did a tutorial http://www.book.artbeeweb.nl/?p=3075 on stereo (and related articles on anything else involving Poser Camera). But feel free to copy from it, to help other people out. I would welcome any suggestion for improvement though, or alternatives.

Plus: how to make a stereo movie in an efficient way (instead of frame by frame), would be fun.

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


basicwiz ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 2:08 PM · edited Tue, 29 April 2014 at 2:09 PM

Sorry to be so long getting back to a thread that I started... the granddaughter wound up on my doorstep unexpectedly and we've been entertaining her (5-year-old.)

First, to answer Missd Nancy... here is a link to one opf my anaglyph 3-d images:

http://basicwiz.com/pool%20anaglyph.jpg

I'm not uploading it to the forum directly because it's over 1.3 megs and when I reduce quality, it really ruins the effect.

I use the Anamaker program too... for a free tool it sure fills the bill.

What I am most interested in is a discussion of what display format would make the images the most user friendly. Crossing my eyes for side by side images makes my head hurt. I wonder how many people have the active shuitter glasses. Anaglyph glasses are readily available and extremely cheap. I'm leaning towrd the last.

Of course, the other issue is, there just may not be ANY INTEREST at all in this. In which case I'll just move on to my next goofy idea.

All discussion/advice welcomed.


aRtBee ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 2:26 PM

I'm with cyan/red anaglyph glasses.

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


MikeMoss ( ) posted Tue, 29 April 2014 at 11:37 PM · edited Tue, 29 April 2014 at 11:44 PM

Hi

Making a stereo movie is quite easy in Poser.

Basically you do the same thing you do with a still image.

Create your animated clip and save it, move the camera to the side using the Camera Dials, then make another clip, just as you would a second still image, one for the right and one for the left eye.

I use Premiere Elements for my video editing.

Save both the left and right eye clips using exactly the same name for the files.

Save them in folders named Right Eye and Left Eye under a parent folder.

Next import your left eye clips into Premiere and do all your editing.

Any special effects, dissolves fades what ever, anything you want.

Save the finished film as Left Eye Video, XXX and export your video file.

Now close Premiere Elements, here's the trick, change the name on the Right Eye folder to Left Eye Folder and put an X in front of the name on the original Left Eye folder.

Open Premiere Elements back up, open the job and PE will automatically substitute all of the Right Eye clips for the Left Eye clips incorporating all of the editing that you did before.

Now save this version as Right Eye Video, XXX and export the video and save it as Right Eye video.

You now have your left and right video that can be used in 3D Movie maker or opened as left right files in nVidia 3D Vision Video Player.

It's only slightly more work then making a non stereo movie, basically just reopening the video and saving it again.

nVidia 3D Vision is as good as the 3D you see at the movies, the images are clean with virtually no ghosting and have a lot of dept, even sticking out of the screen.

I use if mostly for gaming, it works with most 3D games, like Skyrim, or The Secret World, but it does work great with Poser too.

The problem is that you have to have an nVidia graphics card, and a suitable monitor, so if you are starting out without either you have a pretty large investment.

I'm sure the same process can be used with any system.

Mike

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


aRtBee ( ) posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 1:36 AM

mike, great, thanks a lot !!

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Usually I'm wrong. But to be effective and efficient, I don't need to be correct or accurate.

visit www.aRtBeeWeb.nl (works) or Missing Manuals (tutorials & reviews) - both need an update though


Miss Nancy ( ) posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 12:48 PM

yes, that looks great, wiz! using my gobblepalooza blue/green spex from old navy.

p.s. I erred earlier in referring to "machete".  it shoulda been "machete kills", with mel gibson and introducing carlos estevez.



mrsparky ( ) posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 9:35 PM

I'm with aRtBee about the glasses, cheap and easy to get.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



MikeMoss ( ) posted Thu, 01 May 2014 at 10:55 AM · edited Thu, 01 May 2014 at 10:58 AM

Hi again.

The only real problem with using the nVidia system is that I can only share it with one of my friends.

My friend Paul has a setup similar to mine and I can send him short videos to view, but otherwise I can only show them to people who are visiting my home.

I would be more motivated to do them if I could share them somehow.

But as you can imagine the files tend to be very large.

I have dozens of sets of Red, Blue glasses, I tried all kinds of them, but once you see the quality of the shutter glasses images, it's hard to go back to anaglyphs.

When I need to get a new HD TV, I'll look at getting a 3D TV.

One advantage of Red Blue 3D is that you can use your regular TV.

Mike

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


Allstereo ( ) posted Fri, 02 May 2014 at 2:39 PM

Hello all,

Just a short comment. If you purchase a 3D TV, I suggest that you select a passive 3D TV instead of an active one. No flicker, no batteries, just sit at the right place. Passive 3DTV uses the polarised approach typical of Real3D and Imax theaters. I have a LG passive 3DTV. My Poser render are fantastic. Using the free Stereo Photo maker program, , I generated the stereo image in MPO format from the right and left images obtained from Poser. I put that on a USB key, plug it in the TV and the LG TV is able to read this format. Many 3DTV read MPO format from external source.

Allstereo

See my gallery for my stereo pictures


MikeMoss ( ) posted Fri, 02 May 2014 at 4:07 PM

Hi

Thanks for the information.

I do create MPO files using 3D Image Maker.

That's good to know.

Mike

If you shoot a mime, do you need a silencer?


jorge.dorlando ( ) posted Fri, 02 May 2014 at 4:54 PM

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PhotoScape has a filter called cellophane


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