I've been wondering this for a few weeks now, so I thought I'd finally ask. Does including a zombie in an image require that I check it as containing Violence?

This one is pretty obvious -- I checked it as violent content. 

But what about this image? The zombie isn't attacking anyone, but he is an undead fiend...

In this case no. Images that are considered "violent" show actual violence. For example: punching, kicking, stabbing.. etc.

Also, zombies are considered "dead". The tos states all living creatures. So the first image would be fine without a flag. :)

Hope this helps!!

Kimberly, with all due respect, if I may...

All images are neither dead nor alive.  V4 is neither dead nor alive.  Its just polygons and pixels.

Personally, if the image portrays or suggests violence to another then to me, that is violent. 

In the above example, I agree with the original poster.  The first image shows violence.  A gunshot, blood, clawing and scratching, struggle, and if it were real, it would be very violent. 

The second image is just a character in distress.  So I don't see it as violent.

I think 16 years ago or so when PFO became Rendo, the word Violence meant something different.  Today, we might or might not say cruelty to animals is violant because an animal is not a person, but most folks find that thought (and images of the same) to be quite disturbing.  Maybe "disturbing" is the new word?  Of course, that is also a quagmire because what is disturbing to one person is not to another.

Used to also be a phrase "shocks the conscience" but that also today has shifted depending on the person viewing the "shocking" event.

Good luck with this.  Its not an easy line to draw or understand.  I tried with the Poser challenge and didn't get it right.

Personally, I think the original poster got it right.  Image 1 = no.  Image 2 = OK.

Just my two cents.

Eric

Eric our guidelines state:

"No depictions of injury being caused to any living creature. This includes, but is not limited to, injury from either piercing or edged weapons/tools, projectiles, fire/chemical burns, blunt force trauma, punching, kicking, slapping, strangulation or crushing. This also includes accidents and self-harm.
Weapons may be shown providing a) they do not have blood on them, and b) the injured victim is not visible.
Images of minor bruising, burns or bloody wounds that have already occurred are acceptable"

Pretty much all images portray something. To say V4 is nor alive nor dead just pixels could be said the same regarding any photo.

In the case of these images, no injury was being caused to a "living creature" in the image.

I understand your point, but the guidelines I stated above are what our staff goes by when looking at violence.

Thanks!

oops, we cross posted.  I edited while you were posting.

Its not easy and Rendo certainly has a well written policy.  I'm just suggesting that maybe from time to time that policy be reviewed? 

Eric

They do, I'll bring this up though.

Thanks!