For example: I look at a character for sale, as i want to see the texture in its full glory i click on the "content advisory" thumb, what often shows is the character in a bikini!

Its not only one vendor who do such thing, its a multitude of them!

I get confused...

Other vendors sells bikinis, they dont dont use "content advisory" for their promos.

(or maybe they should, and underneath display the model dressed in a bikini + a fur coat).

The thing is that a lot of people browse at work during the day, so an image this would be perfectly fine to view at home, would be innapropriate to view with ones office workers around. A matter of context. eg. a bikini if OK to wear at the beach, but for the office?

I see a lot of these content advisories too, for images that don't look like they need them.

But more often than not, if you look closely, there's a tiny bit of nipple poking out, or the fabric is just a little bit see-through. In those cases, better safe than sorry, I guess.

I don't care what they show in the "marketplace", but I for one wish there were a way to block suggestive ADS that pop up on the side of the site when I'm browsing the forums.  It's just embarrassing to be browsing the threads with my wife or kid in the room, and have a huge-boobed, half-naked Vicki render appear on the right hand side.  I didn't ask to see that kind of material, and I'm not interested in purchasing it.  There's more skin in the ads here than a Rated R movie.  Yet they put up content advisory in the gallery thumbs if some side-boob is visible.  I've seen plenty of side-boob in the ads on here though.  I don't have to worry bout that kind of thing on any other 3D websites, only here.  Frustrating.

Could be a tactics as well. Some will place an advisory just so you would want to see what's behind door number one, even if it didn't need to contain an advisory icon.

Quote - I don't care what they show in the "marketplace", but I for one wish there were a way to block suggestive ADS that pop up on the side of the site when I'm browsing the forums.  It's just embarrassing to be browsing the threads with my wife or kid in the room, and have a huge-boobed, half-naked Vicki render appear on the right hand side.  I didn't ask to see that kind of material, and I'm not interested in purchasing it.  There's more skin in the ads here than a Rated R movie.  Yet they put up content advisory in the gallery thumbs if some side-boob is visible.  I've seen plenty of side-boob in the ads on here though.  I don't have to worry bout that kind of thing on any other 3D websites, only here.  Frustrating.

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@ashley9803

I think you missed my point, I find it weird to put a "content advisory" on someone in a bikini when the next item for sale in the store might just be a bikini and you can see an almost identical image in the storefront...

If it is like Moriador suggest i guess its in place, but then again I expect to see full nudity when i click on such thumb as i never buy a character for its morphs but for a good texture.

@Zev0: It not so much what i want to se as its what i expect to see :-), if I find that the vendor is hiding parts of the texture I will not shop from him/her.

Quote - I don't care what they show in the "marketplace", but I for one wish there were a way to block suggestive ADS that pop up on the side of the site when I'm browsing the forums.  It's just embarrassing to be browsing the threads with my wife or kid in the room, and have a huge-boobed, half-naked Vicki render appear on the right hand side.  I didn't ask to see that kind of material, and I'm not interested in purchasing it.  There's more skin in the ads here than a Rated R movie.  Yet they put up content advisory in the gallery thumbs if some side-boob is visible.  I've seen plenty of side-boob in the ads on here though.  I don't have to worry bout that kind of thing on any other 3D websites, only here.  Frustrating.

I see as much boobage just wandering around the mall. I go outside, I see it in banners on the windows of the mall stores. Heck, half the girls are topless, covering their boobs with their hands or turned just far enough away from the camera that you can't see a nipple. I see it in the ads in windows, on bus stop shelters, on the sides of buses. If I turn the TV on, I see it on broadcast TV channels, in ads for beer (mostly). I see it at every single checkout on the cover of some of the magazines. 

The only difference, as far as I can see, is that the examples above will use real women, heavily photoshopped, but with reasonable looking cleavages. I think marketers learned quite some time ago that truly massive boobs were a turnoff for many people when it comes to making purchases. Poser vendors haven't quite figured that out yet. :D

Edit: But then I guess, Poser/Daz content is one of the few markets where at least half the people buying women's clothing are male. :D :D

Quote - Edit: But then I guess, Poser/Daz content is one of the few markets where at least half the people buying women's clothing are male. :D :D

How very true, maybe if, in the real world, you could buy something and get it to fit your wife/girlfriend/partner by twisting a few dials it might be different.

Quote - > Quote - Edit: But then I guess, Poser/Daz content is one of the few markets where at least half the people buying women's clothing are male. :D :D

 

How very true, maybe if, in the real world, you could buy something and get it to fit your wife/girlfriend/partner by twisting a few dials it might be different.

LOLOL. And you could change the colors and materials by clicking a button? I fear that once he discovered the dials on me, I'd be walking around unable to see my feet -- at least for a while. :D :D

I've been buying men's clothing for my partner for years. The only thing he has to shop for is shoes. If women's clothing was sized in any kind of rational way, it would work the other way too. As it is, I wouldn't mind having a Wardrobe Wizard to tailor my clothing. :) 

Quote - The thing is that a lot of people browse at work during the day, so an image this would be perfectly fine to view at home, would be innapropriate to view with ones office workers around. A matter of context. eg. a bikini if OK to wear at the beach, but for the office?

Then maybe people shouldn't browse the Marketplace at work? I can't see why content at Renderosity necessarily must be adapted for browsing in an environment where it's unsuitable for browsing in the first place.

Likewise, you don't design a bikini to be suitable for office use. You design it for beach use and therefore it is, per definition, not suitable for office use... 

Quote - > Quote - The thing is that a lot of people browse at work during the day, so an image this would be perfectly fine to view at home, would be innapropriate to view with ones office workers around. A matter of context. eg. a bikini if OK to wear at the beach, but for the office?

Then maybe people shouldn't browse the Marketplace at work? I can't see why content at Renderosity necessarily must be adapted for browsing in an environment where it's unsuitable for browsing in the first place.

Likewise, you don't design a bikini to be suitable for office use. You design it for beach use and therefore it is, per definition, not suitable for office use... 

Haha. Until I started working for myself, I had never had a job that gave me enough time to do everything that needed doing, nevermind taking a single moment for a break that wasn't written into the schedule. Even if I wouldn't have been fired for browsing the 'net while on the clock, I'd have been fired for failing to complete the work. I don't know who all these people are who get paid to play around -- at work --  or what industry they're employed in. Seems quite alien to me.

Okay, I lie. Security guards, and others who work in a similar job, and a fair number of night shift workers, where they must be on site and available in case something happens -- I get why they might run out of "busy work".

Of course, the advantage of working for yourself and doing your own web marketing is that you can convince yourself that just about anything you do on the web is job related, as it's all some form of market research. ;)

On the flip side, surfing the web at work makes you more productive.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424053111904070604576518261775512294

Too bad none of my bosses ever kept up with the latest research.

Quote - @ashley9803

I think you missed my point, I find it weird to put a "content advisory" on someone in a bikini when the next item for sale in the store might just be a bikini and you can see an almost identical image in the storefront...

If it is like Moriador suggest i guess its in place, but then again I expect to see full nudity when i click on such thumb as i never buy a character for its morphs but for a good texture.

@Zev0: It not so much what i want to se as its what i expect to see :-), if I find that the vendor is hiding parts of the texture I will not shop from him/her.

 

It is the vendor's who are making the choices about the content advisories and where they go, not the store, so that's why you might see a two bikinis right next to each other and one has the content advisory notice and the other doesn't.

Kind of reminds me of the ignore button. You put someone on ignore only to find out that someone has quoted the person you put on ignore. Kind of defeats the whole purpose.

I understand that its the vendors that decide, thats not my point. Its putting a bikini on a character for sale and top it off with a "content advisory" thumb.

Maybe some vendors are just being extra cautious, for the sake of those people who are browsing at work. A bikini is fine. But a super close up of a crotch, even in a bikini, can be a bit much for the front page. :)

You can't please all the people. Some will be offended by excessive cleavage, and some will be offended by attempts to "reduce" the visibility of excessive cleavage. Hence the inconsistency in the way vendors choose to advertise. Some will be overly cautious and others will stay just within the ToS.

There are some vendors who use content advisories on anything they perceive as showing too much flesh. Some won't show a nude figure at all. Some won't include textures for genitalia in their character sets because they either don't agree with it or they don't have access to those models. The thing is, vendors are basically running their own business and selling through RMP. So they have to meet the RMP's minimum standards of what is and is not allowed behind a content advisory label. Beyond that its the vendor's choice what they show or don't show. I think a lot of it is just the vendor's being cautious so as not to offend anyone, or due to work-time browsing as has been pointed out. 

I'm sure that if you saw a character set you liked and wanted to see more examples of it before deciding to buy, you could send the vendor a message and most would likely give you more sample renders of areas that may not be visible in the promo renders they provide on the product page. Some just aren't that good at including enough promo renders, or the right ones.

~Shane

If I had a store I would (as it seems) hardly get any vendors at all as i would demand:

Wireframe preview on 3D models (high resolution),

Character textures shown as they look in the texture folder (dont know what you call that view), could have a transparent vendor stamp across

360 view on hair models (not just the front)

Im just to lazy to mail a vendor for additional previews when it comes to a texture, but there are other vendors to buy from here and its not like they have to compete for the costumers ;-)

It's too easy to offend anyone these days... this thread as evidence... is probably why the vendors now just add 'content advisory' to everything.

A while back, the credit card companies and paypal went nuts on high morals and ruined a lot of sites... saying they had content that violated decency expectations... or whatever... this is probably also playing into it. Who knows when they will get a wild hair again? It's been a while and it's about time for some crazy moral spasms from the billing companies. I don't blame sites for having to be overly cautious - it's damn silly, but billing companies can ruin your website business in a finger snap.

Weren't you going to click on that pop up anyways?  :P  Those thumbnails sometimes don't show the whole advertisement these days anyways.