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Subject: Has Firefox done it again???


Realanise ( ) posted Mon, 23 June 2014 at 10:08 PM · edited Fri, 27 December 2024 at 6:11 AM

Well... if anyone remembers that fairly recent update of Firefox that caused all the Poser glitches... it just updated again, and sure enough, it looks like the same problems are cropping up again. Textures mysteriously lost, files not rendering correctly, scenes that never load, and so on. I THINK that I remember these issues from last time. I'm not 100% sure by any means, but the problems started immediately after installing the latest update and did not exist before.

 

Has anyone else noticed this?? There was some kind of patch last time... has anyone found it again?? All help appreciated!


Eric Walters ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 12:14 AM

Why would firefox affect Poser?



Miss Nancy ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 12:25 AM

firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser.



Realanise ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 12:38 AM

Quote - Why would firefox affect Poser?

 

I don't know, and it's insane. But a couple of versions ago, that's exactly what it did. Everyone had the same experience... come on, somebody else has to remember this! I'm not nuts! Well... at least not because of that. ;)


Latexluv ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 1:49 AM

I believe you're talking about IE 11 and not Firefox. SM had to make a quick patch to fix the problem that IE made with Poser's library. I have used Firefox for almost 10 years. I personally love it, and it is the grandchild of Netscape which I first used when I got online in 1997.

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ErickL88 ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 4:02 AM

I also use the combination of FF and Poser for years now. I haven't noticed anything in this regard.

The only thing I noticed was, that, with introducing of vers. 29.xx of FF, FF became much slower for me. ... But that's not Poser related, just general use of FF.



ockham ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 5:17 AM

No obvious change here.  I don't allow auto-updates.  FF was 29 for a while, with no problems.  Updated to FF30 just now and retried a Poser scene I made yesterday.  Everything seems normal. 

Latexluv is correct that the recent burst of problems and fixes were from IE11, not from FF. 

However, there's always a first time, and Poser is always sensitive to everything on a system.  Princess and pea.

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aeilkema ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 6:59 AM

Firefox cannot influence Poser at all..... unless it has taken over your complete system :)

Firefox is one application.... Poser is another..... they've got no relation to each other.

The only browser that has some relation to some parts of Poser is IE, SM should never allowed that to happen, but has, so now we all suffer once in a while.

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MistyLaraCarrara ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 9:26 AM

first thing they always say, upgrade your video drivers.



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RorrKonn ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 9:30 AM · edited Tue, 24 June 2014 at 9:34 AM

guessing here but if ya got anything to do with flash along with fox
,think it could mess with ya Poser.

still guessing but in the old days ya just could not run some apps togeather with certain hardware
,it's gotten a lot better but still.

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mackis3D ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 4:59 PM

"But a couple of versions ago, that's exactly what it did. Everyone had the same experience..."

Who is "everyone" and "versions ago" ? Nothing of it is documented here or in any other Poser related forums. And you registered here only a year ago.

 

"somebody else has to remember this! I'm not nuts! Well... at least not because of that."

I will now remember THIS thread. :-)

 

"firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser."

Never heard that one either. Except from Microsoft staff. :-)


Khai-J-Bach ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 5:03 PM

""firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser."

Never heard that one either. Except from Microsoft staff. :-)"

or apple users....;)



WandW ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 7:22 PM

Firefox has been blowing up constantly on my openSuSE Linux machine, but seems quite happy on my laptop I recently installed Debian on...

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JohnDoe641 ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 10:56 PM

Quote - I believe you're talking about IE 11 and not Firefox. SM had to make a quick patch to fix the problem that IE made with Poser's library. I have used Firefox for almost 10 years. I personally love it, and it is the grandchild of Netscape which I first used when I got online in 1997.

Yeah that's what he's talking about because there's 0 possability that FF can influence anything in Poser.

Someone mentioned flash, if it is the cause, it's not firefox related. Flash itself would be to blame and you should contact Adobe for troubleshooting.

Quote - firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser.

This is a joke post, right?


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 11:13 PM · edited Tue, 24 June 2014 at 11:17 PM

Check this thread Poser 8/9 has stopped working" after IE10 Win7 64bit update? from October last year.

Even if you never use IE, having the 'wrong' version of IE installed can completely mess with Adobe Flash because of the intertwined relationship it started having with IE around the time of IE10, and if you use Poser 8 or later then you've got Adobe Flash mixed in with your Poser and you're in a world of pain if you have an incorrect combination of IE, Adobe Flash, and Poser SRs! ;o)


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And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

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3dcheapskate ( ) posted Tue, 24 June 2014 at 11:30 PM · edited Tue, 24 June 2014 at 11:35 PM

Quote - Well... if anyone remembers that fairly recent update of Firefox that caused all the Poser glitches... it just updated again, and sure enough, it looks like the same problems are cropping up again. Textures mysteriously lost, files not rendering correctly, scenes that never load, and so on. I THINK that I remember these issues from last time. I'm not 100% sure by any means, but the problems started immediately after installing the latest update and did not exist before.
Has anyone else noticed this?? There was some kind of patch last time... has anyone found it again?? All help appreciated!

Regardless of what's causing it, a problem's a problem. Can you get a repeatable problem, or are you just getting random things appearing to go wrong?

Can you remember how you resolved the issue last time? Did you take any specific action to fix it, or did it just seem to go away/fix itself (perhaps when FF or something else updated again)?

(P.S. which version and SR  of Poser, what OS and version are you using?)

(P.S.#2 I use FF (currently 30.0) and Poser 6, 8, and 9 and haven't seen any problems)


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



Realanise ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 9:26 PM

Well, maybe I AM nuts... I've been working a lot... maybe it took place in another dimension... but I'm telling y'all, I do remember it. O.o.

What Poser is basically stuck on now is rendering SSS and then hanging up on adding objects. Sometimes it'll make it all the way to rendering, but it never actually happens. Eventually, the process stops with figures rendered only in SSS as ghostly gray/black images.

Anyway! Here's some more info. I uninstalled IE 11 according to directions I found and restarted the computer, but it didn't go anywhere. >:[ I was hoping it would go back to 10, but it seems to be stuck on 11.So THEN I disabled it as a Windows feature, which was another piece of advice. I'll let everyone know if it works or not!!!

 

 

 


3dcheapskate ( ) posted Fri, 27 June 2014 at 10:13 PM · edited Fri, 27 June 2014 at 10:15 PM

Windows or MAC?

Which Poser version are you using? Which service release?

(Bagginsbill reminded me that this is vital information in tracking down any problem!)

SM did Service Releases for more recent versions of Poser (Poser 9 and Poser Pro 2012 I think) specifically to get round the IE 10/11 issue, so if you're using either of those versions then make sure you're up-to-date with the SR  ( http://poser.smithmicro.com/updates.html ). And make sure your Adobe Flash Player is up-to-date too. If you use Poser 9/Poser Pro 2012 or later and you've done that then you can probably (99% certainty ;o) rule out the IE10/11 issue as the cause of the problem.


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



Kazam561 ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 5:59 AM

Firefox is much more secure than I.E. Patches are released almost immediately rather than the following Tuesday  (if Microsoft deems the issue critical). If you have a problem with a version of Firefox, make sure you aren't using the nightly builds. Those are test builds (though I've never had trouble with any).

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3dcheapskate ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 7:16 AM · edited Sat, 28 June 2014 at 7:18 AM

If you're convinced it's FireFox causing the problem try this easy test - uninstall Firefox and reboot:

  • If Poser works fine after doing that then it looks like you're right. So don't reinstall FireFox, use IE instead.

  • If the problem's still there, you can rule out (99.9% certainty) FireFox as being the cause and reinstall it.


The 3Dcheapskate* occasionally posts sensible stuff. Usually by accident.
And it usually uses Poser 11, with units set to inches. Except when it's using Poser 6 or PP2014, or when its units are set to PNU.

*also available in ShareCG, DAZ, and HiveWire3D flavours (the DeviantArt and CGBytes flavour have been discontinued).



Realanise ( ) posted Sat, 28 June 2014 at 1:42 PM

Update:

 

I reinstalled Flash with the latest version...

 

The Nov 2013 IE11 patch was already installed...

DL and installed the latest Nvidia graphics card driver...

 

Nothing. Renders are still dropping out after SSS. :(

 


vholf ( ) posted Tue, 01 July 2014 at 4:18 PM

Quote - firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser.

Windows and Mac are already trojan horses themselves. Furthermore, I'd more worry about IE, Safari or Chrome than Firefox, I work with all of them on a daily basis, and Firefox is my favorite, even from a technical point of view.


Realanise ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 6:42 PM

Ha! I found a solution!! I finally upgraded to PP 2014. Well, it was A solution, anyway...

It's all rendering fine now. :)


EClark1894 ( ) posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 8:59 PM

Quote - > Quote - firefox has never worked for me.  one should delete it ASAP.  it's more like a trojan than a browser.

Windows and Mac are already trojan horses themselves. Furthermore, I'd more worry about IE, Safari or Chrome than Firefox, I work with all of them on a daily basis, and Firefox is my favorite, even from a technical point of view.

I had one problem with the Renderosity Freestuff library display. First time ever that Safari has ever given me a problem. That alone is what made me switch over to Firefox. Frankly, I don't really see a difference.




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