Spot on, Hornet, and I'm way too "Smart" to have a Smart Phone - the world needs more like us.

Ach national security.
As soon as you connect to the Internet, any PC becomes part of the cloud and all content is open and for grabs to those that have the tools to do so.

We have sound tracks from the Vinyl days for all of this.

of course we didn't call them vinyls ,we just called them records.

Electric Eye

Good track, RorrKonn, great lyrics as well!

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Vinyl is both a physical and analogue format, superior to digital in both respects, and that's why it'll survive CD, SACD, or any other digital format.  Vinyl never went away, it was only discarded by those who must have the latest plaything (a lot of those people are now regretting it and returning to real Analogue audio on Vinyl) - so Vinyl lives on - and it is now picking up pace yet again.

The sales and model releases of brand new Turntables are on the up, and the sheer amount of weekly new releases on Vinyl is further proof of the trend.  On the DJ scene, some venues (usually the the really classy ones) won't let you anywhere near the 'buseness end' of their venue unless you use real Vinyl.

Last but not least, Vinyl is sooooooooo much cooler than a digital rig as is demonstrated in the attached photo..  But yup, Vinyl is far superior to any CD out there, and those that can't tell or think it's the other way around, really should invest in better quality audio gear.

Put the crack pipe down and get your ears checked.....

Vinyl is great if you like listening to clicks, pops, 60Hz hum, a signal-to-noise ratio of less than half of digital, etc.

Problems with digital was using RIAA (which attempted to adjust for vinyls deficenies) masters when making original CDs 30 years ago.  Those issues were resolved about 25 years ago.....

You're comparing a 'broken-up' quantized digital signal to a 'Pure' constant analogue signal - the analogue signal will always be superior even when out of human range.  It is what it is, and no amount of debating will change it (comments on YouTube are hilarious).

Record a human voice in Analogue and you capture the 'natural' base because it's unquantized.  But digitize that Analogue recording and it becomes quantized.  Record that 'quantized' digital recording back to Analogue and you have lost the base (and I do mean base, not just bass).  You no longer have a 'Pure Analogue' signal, it's broken and always will be - the ugly, unnatural 'perfect' quantization of digital saw to that.

The reason there's so much debate about Analogue V Digital is because most of the newcomers to Analogue don't understand the need for quality gear when they try Analogue.  They only understand digital, a file, and the whole concept of Analogue being effected by the media onto which it's recorded is totally alien to them.

I saw someone on YouTube drag their Dad's Tape Deck out of the loft and give it a whirl.  They thought it sounded sh*t, and you know what, it did.  Little did the guy realise that there's a big difference between a well maintained pro-grade tape deck and something attached to a cheap boombox.

I have an Analogue Yamaha Mixer and Multitrack, it's fed to an Analogue Audio Exciter that is then fed to a very impressive Sony Tape Deck (which I currently use for recording my own tapes).  I have an MP3 Player but I don't use it, it sounds like crap compared to the real Analogue Tape Walkman I use for listening to my tapes.

I don't know the meaning of hiss on my setup unless I specifically want it.  I'm in absolute control over the lot of it and it sounds f*cking amazing, absolutely worlds away from any digital form of personal stereo.  It's funny though, that discussions such as these can still spark a response from me because the answer to it is really foregone to anyone who truly understands the differences between Analogue and Digital audio.

As for my ears, they're fine, being involved with Pro-Audio I check 'em regular using frequency graphing tools.

No 'Cloth Ears' here - what? **
Click to see which technology the big boys still use these days**

BTW, I hope I haven't just been had, I hope you're not an iPad user who feels wounded that it'll never surpass Analogue audio systems!

BTW, nothing wrong with digital, digital has it's place and I use it as much as analogue.

But the basis of the technology, that's where it all counts and that's why the very idea of digital being better than analogue is a theory built on fairydust.

Again, sorry for the OT but I just had to reply to ssgbryans comment.

Time check : We are in 2014.

That's true and even so, Analogue still rules the high-end of audio (sorry digital).

Yeah, plus, all my beats are Analogue!!!***

Later,
Roxie - Girl With Blade

Hey Vilters, check it out, but be quick because there's already 21 Dreamers, I mean "Watchers" for this one

Cheap at twice the price:
Click for a Dragon of a Different Breed

Long time ago, I had a box.

Had to plug it in the wall. Some where even portable too.
It had some sort of a weird telescopic stick you had to pull out, and carelully point to a station. Turn it on, and it made noice. (most of the time)

I think it was called "a Radio".
I still have it, (I think), on a shelf somewhere.

(Shane is gonna get mad.)

My point is that the year has nothing to do with how good a technology is. You pointed out that it's the year 2014, yet the Analogue console I posted a link to is on a website from the year 2014, not yesteryear.

Yes, that's right, it's a current website.  The beast that lives there is the finest money can buy and it's 100% Analogue, the state-of-the-art in audio in 2014 is a machine that is Analogue, not digital.  It doesn't matter how much money a person has to spend on audio technology, the one thing you can be sure of is that if you want the best, you will be buying analogue, not digital.

Comment Dated 2014

Yeah, on the cloud thing, I think when it all starts going cloud, I'm out at as well and will be seriously considering (meaning very prone to) move onto other things.  If anything I hope there's a choice.  Here's a cloud sub and over here is a one time version-based price.

To start with, there's only so many services you can pay for before it whittles you down to nothing because eventually it all adds up.

I don't mind subscription based software as much when you get to keep what you paid for and can decide during the course of the "year of upgrades" or whatnot that you are entitled to have, if those updates have brought value to your software.  But those that simply shut off when you stop paying, I'm less prone to even give 5 seconds on thought over.

And that's just one aspect of it.  There are, of course, the other things you all have cited like security, always online and so on, that I'm not too keen on.

As far as standards go, in terms of what specific software is expected.  I do understand that but if I have to go GIMP or paint shop pro versus Photoshop or go Open Office/Libre Office versus Microsoft Office 360, that's simply what I'm going to do.  I don't really care if that labels me as unprofessional or not.  We all know, or I hope we know, that creativity doesn't lie in the brand that you use, but how you use the tools themselves.  If client X feels differently, based on just branding, then that gets too close to elitism to me.

I do realize there's a portability factor (in terms of formats) but thats why there has been a trend to move to open standards rather than used proprietary formats.  I don't really envision Poser going to a sub only format (plus or not plus cloud) and if they were to really entertain it, I would do what I can to be a constructive voice of dissent.

I don't care if it' mp3's or LP's it just a bloody sin. oxymoron

long live rock n roll

Does Photoshop CC actually stop with a lapsed Cloud account?