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Subject: does Dson work with Poser 10


almck1@hotmail.com ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 3:07 PM · edited Sun, 02 February 2025 at 3:45 PM

I have Poser 10 bu have found it imposible to get genesis characters in to it

they seem to load but nevever show up

I've used Dson but nothing works

any ideas?


AmbientShade ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 3:39 PM

It's supposed to work in P9+, but P9 and P10 is 32-bit, so if you don't have a strong machine you might have some problems. 

You can read this thread for some help and alternative methods to dson:

http://renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2883922



icprncss2 ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 3:44 PM

Yes, the DSON is compatible with P9 and up.  One of the biggest issues with P10 is that it is a 32bit app.  This can lead to issues with the Poser library locking up on you.  Especially when you use the apply active morph scripts.

Another issue is not having things in the correct place.  The Genesis Starter essential files and the Poser Companion files need to installed to the same runtime.  Best way is to set up a separate external runtime for5 this.  Poser also must be allowed to write to this runtime.

When you load the figure is it listed in the figures drop down at the top of the view port but not showing in the view port?  Are you up to date on the SR's and are your video drivers up to date?


hborre ( ) posted Mon, 05 January 2015 at 6:02 PM

I disagree with mixing the DS files with Poser Companion files.  I have separate file types linked to my Poser Library and have no problems with loading Genesis/Genesis2.  And this was on a 32-bit OS.  

Both DS and Poser Companion files must be installed, otherwise you will not see any Genesis figure in the Poser preview.  To prevent your Library or Poser from responding sluggishly, set your Library under General Preferences to external.  This undocks the Library upon starting Poser, a better option when working with DSON.  Also, set your subdivision to none just to make it easier to work with the figure.


Joey301 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 12:13 PM

I tried again, posted it somewhere else. I get error messages now every time I open Poser. Unless I can finally get this, I will just stop trying to use Poser.


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 12:51 PM

Exactly, what was your workflow for installing DSON and the starter bundle?  There really shouldn't be major issues if all components are installed correctly, and that includes Poser.  If Vista, Win 7 or Win 8 is your OS, Poser should be installed by it's default settings, the main program in either program files (64-bits) or program files (x86) (32-bits) and it's content loaded into a different location away from the program files folder.  DSON, either 64-bits or 32-bits, must be loaded into your main Poser runtime.  No where else.  If for some reason you installed Poser Pro versions under both 32- and 64-bit program file folders in 64-bit OS, then you will need to install both DSON versions!!  At this point I would uninstall and reinstall Poser properly.  The Genesis Starter bundle, both DS core and Poser companion files should be installed into separate external runtimes, perhaps in the same location where the Poser Content resides, and link both to the Poser Library.  


Joey301 ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 1:13 PM

Thanks hborre, the info about where to install may help me. I can't use the default installation because I don't want it to install on my C drive, which is SSD. So, I have to pick where the installer should install everything. I have one Poser folder where everything lives. I have a Poser 2014 folder where the Poser exe files. All of my Poser 2014 content is in this same folder in their own folder, and it was working fine. Then, I install the DSON into the Poser 2014 folder. The Genesis Poser companion files are in the main Poser folder, and they seemed to partially work there. Then, I installed the Genesis Essential files, in the same overall Poser folder and that is when I started getting error messages about dll files when I start Poser. In addition, I installed a Poser file manager program, which is more insistent about where it wants to install things. I would like to contain everything in one Poser folder on my E drive. I bought M6, which was the motivation for my trying this, and I have not tried to install it yet.

What do you mean by my 'main Poser runtime'? The runtime that i see is a folder within my Poser 2014 folder. There always seems to be some content that is not contained in a Runtime folder.


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 06 January 2015 at 2:15 PM

Poser contains it's own runtime folder where, in the past, most, if not all, content, would reside.  However, as more content was loaded into that runtime, the program grew sluggish.  IIRC, Poser 6 introduced linking to external runtimes, individually named folders containing runtime folders easily connected to the Poser Library.  Now you can separate content among several runtimes under different categories which can be conveniently linked and unlinked and organized.  

With the current Poser iterations, you still have the flexibility of linking as many runtimes to the main Library as possible.  I number over 25 runtimes on my system, others have many more.  Among those runtimes exist 1 dedicated to Genesis, 1 dedicated to Genesis 2 and another just for the DS core files which I call My Library and is also linked to DAZStudio 4.7.  When I load anything related to Genesis/Genesis2, I load the DS core files into My Library and the Poser Companion files into their corresponding runtimes.  Nowadays, I use the DAZ Install Manager (DIM) to decompress the original files to their appropriate locations.  But word of caution, if you decide to decompress the zips manually, make certain to extract them from the content folders within.  This is something DIM does automatically.  Also, in Poser's General Preferences, set your searches for deep.  


moriador ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 4:15 AM

Do you have the latest service releases for your version of Poser installed? Some builds of the DSON importer for some versions of Poser required this, but I cannot remember which ones.


PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.


hborre ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 9:09 AM

The latest Service Release is 5.1 for PP2014 which is rather recent.  I don't recall if DSON has been updated for this build but I just traded up to a better computer and all the software has been freshly downloaded.  


moriador ( ) posted Wed, 07 January 2015 at 1:54 PM

Ah. I was thinking of Poser 10 -- as mentioned by the OP. But I guess Joey is using 2014, and AFAIK, SR3 is good enough for that.


PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.


Joey301 ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2015 at 7:49 PM

I have killed Poser by trying to add a DAZ character and DSON and the poser installation manager. Now I get an error message when I ope Poser. I am not even sure what to take off.

Here is the error message, and next is my Poser tree. I have tried to keep everything there from all of my posers. The poser.exe is installed in Poser Pro 2014. Where should the Genesis Essential and Genesis Essential CF reside? One of the DSON files seemed to be for 32 and the other for 64 bit. What is the download manager for? Is it just for installing poser files or should I use it to install the DSON

What can I do to fix this?...Thanks

file_06409663226af2f3114485aa4e0a23b4.jpfile_38b3eff8baf56627478ec76a704e9b52.jp


hborre ( ) posted Mon, 12 January 2015 at 9:24 PM

Initially, and as much details as you remember, how did you install Poser Pro 2014?  Clearly, the version you are working with is not 64-bit and the DSON install has been mismatched.


Joey301 ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 6:33 AM

I am pretty sure that I am using the 64 bit poser, I will double check when I get home. I think there are two versions of DSON and I installed it twice. The problem did not appear when I installed Poser, it came up when I added the genesis essential content, which is what made me think it was installed in the wrong place. At first, I looked for a runtime folder, and I actually found it in Poser, but there was no content inside the folder. Does Runtime have the to the highest folder in the folder tree in order to be seen by Poser, or can you pick a Content folder and Poser sees the Runtime folder inside?


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 8:49 AM · edited Tue, 13 January 2015 at 8:49 AM

It is possible to nest runtime folders within the Poser Library, I have seen this.  But it can completely screw up the Library hierarchy and function.  

Firstly, if you indeed only have one Poser install (and Poser installation gives you the option to add the 32-bit version during it's initial loading) than you should only be installing the matching version of the DSON script.  So, 64-bit PP2014 should only contain 64-bit DSON.  One DSON install for each version.  

Secondly, your Genesis Starter should have, basically, 2 types of files: 1 DAZ core zip and 1 Poser Companion File (PFC) zip; DAZ core is intended for DAZStudio and PFC, of course intended for Poser.  Regarding the DAZ original zip files, they all contain a top level folder entitled Content, and within are the necessary folders for each application.  The DAZ Install Manager (DIM), when used correctly, will extract the support files from within Content and place them all in their correct places in each intended application.  The Content folder itself is never transferred, only discarded automatically.  If you manually unzip each file into a temporary folder, you will need to open the Content folder and manually transfer all the folders within to their final  destination.  NEVER transfer the Content folder itself.  If this explanation is unclear, let me know.  I will illustrate it for you.

Thirdly, for the sake of easy management and organization,  create two new folders, 1 for the DAZ Core content and 1 for PCF content and call them anything you desire.  I call mine My Library and Genesis, respectively, it doesn't matter as long as you know which is which.  Transfer folders to their intended locations.  Next, link these new folders to the Poser Library; yes, that includes the DAZ Core folder which has it's own runtime which may, or may not, be empty.  This is to guarantee that Poser finds all support files when it scans runtimes.

And that should about do it.  Any problems understanding or working this out let me know.

"Does Runtime have the to the highest folder in the folder tree in order to be seen by Poser, or can you pick a Content folder and Poser sees the Runtime folder inside?"

Yes, Runtime must always be the highest folder in the hierarchy for everything to work properly.


Joey301 ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 2:19 PM

So, if you look at my folders above, I have a Genesis Essential Poser CF folder on the same level as my Poser 2014 installation (I created this folder as my choice during the Poser installation). Should I move that entire Genesis folder into the Poser 2014 folder, or under the Poser 2014 Runtime folder? Or should I leave the actual folder alone and move all of its contents to the Poser 2014 Runtime folder? Poser 2014 was working fine until I tried to add Genesis, DSON, and the Install manager. If I keep the Genesis folder where it is, there is a Runtime folder in there, but it is further down in the hierarchy of folders.

I will start by deleting DSON from my computer.

Thx


hborre ( ) posted Tue, 13 January 2015 at 3:12 PM

"So, if you look at my folders above, I have a Genesis Essential Poser CF folder on the same level as my Poser 2014 installation (I created this folder as my choice during the Poser installation). Should I move that entire Genesis folder into the Poser 2014 folder, or under the Poser 2014 Runtime folder? Or should I leave the actual folder alone and move all of its contents to the Poser 2014 Runtime folder? Poser 2014 was working fine until I tried to add Genesis, DSON, and the Install manager. If I keep the Genesis folder where it is, there is a Runtime folder in there, but it is further down in the hierarchy of folders."

Neither.  Leave the Genesis folder where it is.  Simply go into the Genesis folder, select all the folders within the Content folder and move them 1 level up (this includes the runtime folder with any content within and any support files/folders at the same level as runtime).  Delete the now empty Content folder.  If your Genesis folder is already linked to your PP2014 Library, you should now see content when you open the PP2014 Library.  

Check your DAZ core folder.  If you also see a Content folder within, that is wrong.  Repeat the same procedure as above.  The core folder should be linked to your Poser Library, however you will not see anything in that runtime because it supports your Genesis folder.

DSON should only be installed in one place, in your Poser Pro 2014 folder.  As mentioned in my previous post, if PP2014 is 64-bit, you must use the 64-bit DSON installer.  ATM, forget the DAZ Install Manager since you already manually unzipped the files already.

Let me know if there is anything you are unclear about.  Also include a screencap of your folders opened with all folders within.


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