Sorry if this has been covered before, I think it has but I've searched and can't find it.

I've read of DSON horror stories, mostly DSON slowing down Poser a lot.  (I'm on 2014 SR 5.2 64 bit on Windows 7).

Install DSON, and V6 into a new external runtime/library?  That way if I don't like the results, I can uninstall DSON and remove that library?  I have a lot of V4 content, not sure how much I'll be able to use with V6.

I got V6 when they were giving her away, and I want to try out to see if I like the extra details in the figure. (I see there is an HD pack now as well).  I use V4.2 with X&M Perfect Victoria, Ironman's Real Details, and sometimes Zev0 bend morphs.

Why not just install DS4 and use V6 in the program she was made for?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering why you just don't use the software designed for the figure rather than fighting with a kludge that won't make you happy?

The slowdowns can be corrected.  Setting sub-division to 0 after importing V6 and having your Poser Library running on Adobe Air restores Poser functionality when working with either Genesis or Genesis 2.  

Why not just install DS4 and use V6 in the program she was made for?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering why you just don't use the software designed for the figure rather than fighting with a kludge that won't make you happy?

From what I've read, many like Poser's morphing brush better.  I really like the morphing brush in 2014 for fitting clothing it's so much better than 2012.  I haven't used Daz Studio so I can't compare against Daz myself.   I'm familiar with Poser now.  There's the learning curve to switch, and I've also purchased Octane for Poser, I'd have to buy that again for Daz

Why not just install DS4 and use V6 in the program she was made for?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering why you just don't use the software designed for the figure rather than fighting with a kludge that won't make you happy?

From what I've read, many like Poser's morphing brush better.  I really like the morphing brush in 2014 for fitting clothing it's so much better than 2012.  I haven't used Daz Studio so I can't compare against Daz myself.   I'm familiar with Poser now.  There's the learning curve to switch, and I've also purchased Octane for Poser, I'd have to buy that again for Daz

You don't have to switch anything.  You can use both programs you know......... DS doesn't have a morph brush at all. 

Autofit doesn't work with DSON.

DS HD is DAZ proprietary so that's not going to work in Poser with DSON.

It just makes little sense to me to use a program with a kludge for a figure that works in a free program made specifically FOR that figure.

If you want to use V6, use her in DS.  For the rest continue to use Poser.

Why not just install DS4 and use V6 in the program she was made for?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering why you just don't use the software designed for the figure rather than fighting with a kludge that won't make you happy?

From what I've read, many like Poser's morphing brush better.  I really like the morphing brush in 2014 for fitting clothing it's so much better than 2012.  I haven't used Daz Studio so I can't compare against Daz myself.   I'm familiar with Poser now.  There's the learning curve to switch, and I've also purchased Octane for Poser, I'd have to buy that again for Daz

You don't have to switch anything.  You can use both programs you know......... DS doesn't have a morph brush at all. 

Autofit doesn't work with DSON.

DS HD is DAZ proprietary so that's not going to work in Poser with DSON.

It just makes little sense to me to use a program with a kludge for a figure that works in a free program made specifically FOR that figure.

If you want to use V6, use her in DS.  For the rest continue to use Poser.

Glitter, A POSER user wants use POSER to render content and wants help accomplishing that. If you can't help, don't bully users or play forum cop trying to direct what can be discussed in this forum. If you can't or won't help, there's absolutely no need to reply when you haven't even installed the product on your install to even render an opinion. It's really posts like these reduce forum participation because Poser users can't even ask questions without these types of comments.  I think Rawart was correct when he posted his observation in that other thread. Anyway, to the OP: There are several threads in the forums on how to use the DSON importer or you can find Joepublic's thread on how to convert the genesis characters to a native CR2 that will have less functionality but will run better in Poser. But you should know that there are people that are using Genesis in poser and rendering, and there are some tips that other people that actually use it in Poser should be able to answer.

Why not just install DS4 and use V6 in the program she was made for?

Not being sarcastic, just wondering why you just don't use the software designed for the figure rather than fighting with a kludge that won't make you happy?

From what I've read, many like Poser's morphing brush better.  I really like the morphing brush in 2014 for fitting clothing it's so much better than 2012.  I haven't used Daz Studio so I can't compare against Daz myself.   I'm familiar with Poser now.  There's the learning curve to switch, and I've also purchased Octane for Poser, I'd have to buy that again for Daz

You don't have to switch anything.  You can use both programs you know......... DS doesn't have a morph brush at all. 

Autofit doesn't work with DSON.

DS HD is DAZ proprietary so that's not going to work in Poser with DSON.

It just makes little sense to me to use a program with a kludge for a figure that works in a free program made specifically FOR that figure.

If you want to use V6, use her in DS.  For the rest continue to use Poser.

Glitter, A POSER user wants use POSER to render content and wants help accomplishing that. If you can't help, don't bully users or play forum cop trying to direct what can be discussed in this forum. If you can't or won't help, there's absolutely no need to reply when you haven't even installed the product on your install to even render an opinion. It's really posts like these reduce forum participation because Poser users can't even ask questions without these types of comments.  I think Rawart was correct when he posted his observation in that other thread. Anyway, to the OP: There are several threads in the forums on how to use the DSON importer or you can find Joepublic's thread on how to convert the genesis characters to a native CR2 that will have less functionality but will run better in Poser. But you should know that there are people that are using Genesis in poser and rendering, and there are some tips that other people that actually use it in Poser should be able to answer.

LOL Male_M3dia, thanks.  Maybe Glitterati is made of money.  It would mean me learning the DAZ interface (not too big a deal since it's free...  but my free time is limited).  I'm still learning in Poser, but I think I can navigate around pretty well so my workflow is fairly efficient.  Then I'd have to buy Octane for Daz, and the SSS for it too.  Not to sound like too big a fanboy, but I really like Octane's rendering.  I'm sure I could fiddle with lights in Daz for months and still not render as well. I should probably start a new thread, my interest is a little peaked in trying out Daz Studio since I use Octane now for rendering...  I thought Poser's rendering was better, but for me that's a moot point now.  The plus is that I would only pay to upgrade 1 piece of software instead of 2.  I've seen closeups of the face, hands, legs and feet that have nice detail.

LOL, well, I fail to see how money comes into play in a recommendation to use FREE software, but whatever.

Oh, and you should probably note DS now has it's own nifty replacement for Octane included for FREE, too.  With DS.  So, there goes that money question.

Oh yeah, and like Octane even has it's own lights.

And, a big thanks for quoting my stalker who follows me from thread to thread on every forum just to attack me, even though I have him on ignore.

And, I'm done with this thread.  We have to let Male_M3dia get the last word or he just goes on and on and on and on.

Have at it, MM.

FWIIW I think this is the thread that describes converting Genesis to native Poser: 

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2874212&#msg4113185

However I am not sure this is still necessary. You could just try loading V6 then saving as a new character.

For me V6 works well in Poser 2014. If load a clothing item to V6 then 'Transfer Active Morphs' seems to do a fine job in fitting. Also the morph brush rocks for any final fiddling.

I have all the DSON stuff in a separate folder. DSON does not seem to interfere with anything else.

This is a Poser forum after all ... just for myself.  I don't care for the DS interface nor will it run properly on my machine (yes I have asked DAZ about it SEVERAL times and gave up).  Just keep that in mind.  You can use DS, that's fine, but this is Poser's forum. Thanks.  Let's not have a software war.  Please.

This is a Poser forum after all ... just for myself.  I don't care for the DS interface nor will it run properly on my machine (yes I have asked DAZ about it SEVERAL times and gave up).  Just keep that in mind.  You can use DS, that's fine, but this is Poser's forum. Thanks.  Let's not have a software war.  Please.

Boni, 

Did you even read the OP's first post? Indeed it is the Poser forum and that's what the OP posted about. They did not even mention DS to even start a software war. They wanted to get information on how to get it working in their installation of Poser until someone again made it into a DAZ issue. Also your comments, to be honest, aren't necessary or productive in this thread. I don't think anyone needed to know you can't run a different piece of software when the subject was how to get the DSON importer running in Poser. How was that related to installing the importer?

Thanks.

LOL, well, I fail to see how money comes into play in a recommendation to use FREE software, but whatever.

Oh, and you should probably note DS now has it's own nifty replacement for Octane included for FREE, too.  With DS.  So, there goes that money question.

Oh yeah, and like Octane even has it's own lights.

And, a big thanks for quoting my stalker who follows me from thread to thread on every forum just to attack me, even though I have him on ignore.

And, I'm done with this thread.  We have to let Male_M3dia get the last word or he just goes on and on and on and on.

Have at it, MM.

Free isn't totally free, I have to buy content.  And I didn't want to start a software war either.  I have a hard time believing DAZ's renderer is as good as Octane's.

LOL, well, I fail to see how money comes into play in a recommendation to use FREE software, but whatever.

Oh, and you should probably note DS now has it's own nifty replacement for Octane included for FREE, too.  With DS.  So, there goes that money question.

Oh yeah, and like Octane even has it's own lights.

And, a big thanks for quoting my stalker who follows me from thread to thread on every forum just to attack me, even though I have him on ignore.

And, I'm done with this thread.  We have to let Male_M3dia get the last word or he just goes on and on and on and on.

Have at it, MM.

Free isn't totally free, I have to buy content.  And I didn't want to start a software war either.  I have a hard time believing DAZ's renderer is as good as Octane's.

The Poser plugin for Octane is much more stable if you're going to use your content with that renderer. 

Install DSON, and V6 into a new external runtime/library?  That way if I don't like the results, I can uninstall DSON and remove that library?  I have a lot of V4 content, not sure how much I'll be able to use with V6.

To answer your original question, yes, this is exactly how I have mine set up; Install the DSON Importer into the Poser Program Directory, and install V6 and the Genesis 2 Starter Essentials (both DSON Core and Poser CF )into a folder, and add it to the Poser Library.  I have my Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 figures and clothing in seperate Runtimes; However, DSON clothing seems to somehow need to be in the runtime with the figure to work properly.  There is some good free clothing for Genesis 1 and 2 floating about. Much of it will work in Poser using D3D's free DSON foader script, which loads items that don't have Poser Content Files...

http://d3d.sesseler.de/index.php?software=poserpython&product=dson_loader

Sorry if this has been covered before, I think it has but I've searched and can't find it.

I've read of DSON horror stories, mostly DSON slowing down Poser a lot.  (I'm on 2014 SR 5.2 64 bit on Windows 7).

Install DSON, and V6 into a new external runtime/library?  That way if I don't like the results, I can uninstall DSON and remove that library?  I have a lot of V4 content, not sure how much I'll be able to use with V6.

I got V6 when they were giving her away, and I want to try out to see if I like the extra details in the figure. (I see there is an HD pack now as well).  I use V4.2 with X&M Perfect Victoria, Ironman's Real Details, and sometimes Zev0 bend morphs.

Hi there

DSON will slow down the UI of the Poser,this is down to the as above guys said,Subdivision which you will need to turn on 0 and when you will be rendering the enable again at 1 or 2,I personally using only 1

I would suggest to have installed V6/G2F/G2M in separate Library/Runtime as I've for A6/V6 etc About the using V4 content with V6,its possible I think via transfer morphs,but how it works,personally I didn't tried that,I personally using Cloth room with V6 if I want to use V4 content on V6

HD pack not sure if this work with Poser as they're I think using different system

And if you are will be investing to Octane,then I would rather wait on new Octane which will support finally OpenCL and this means you can use AMD card or Intel CPU for rendering etc 

Here is link on thread over RDNA how to use G2F/G2M etc as Native figure

http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?96881-Genesis-1-amp-2-in-Poser-as-native-Poser-figures

And if you are will be not happy with the result,you still can use DS,their new render system seems is OK and tried that,but still is not good as other renderers 

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Install DSON, and V6 into a new external runtime/library?  That way if I don't like the results, I can uninstall DSON and remove that library?  I have a lot of V4 content, not sure how much I'll be able to use with V6.

To answer your original question, yes, this is exactly how I have mine set up; Install the DSON Importer into the Poser Program Directory, and install V6 and the Genesis 2 Starter Essentials (both DSON Core and Poser CF )into a folder, and add it to the Poser Library.  I have my Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 figures and clothing in seperate Runtimes; However, DSON clothing seems to somehow need to be in the runtime with the figure to work properly.  There is some good free clothing for Genesis 1 and 2 floating about. Much of it will work in Poser using D3D's free DSON foader script, which loads items that don't have Poser Content Files...

http://d3d.sesseler.de/index.php?software=poserpython&product=dson_loader

Thanks WandW, sounds like I can try it out without much issue.
Jura, I already bought Octane, about a month ago, which is only a few weeks before they announced the new version.  Figures.  But I have Nvidia cards so that is not an issue.

Here's how to run a Gen figure in poser without the DSON plugin. Now you will need DS installed but just long enough to export what you need...

In DS load your figure and add all the morphs you're going to use.

File > Export ... Choose CR2 as the format

Save it into a library mapped to Poser

You'll need to make sure all your textures are in that library too.

Open Poser and load the exported figure from Poser's library.

OK now for the bad news. There are several serious issues with this figure. First the scaling is totally hosed. Studio does not export any scaling information. You didn't lose anything over DSON cuz DSON doesn't get it right either. If you need to apply materials you will have to do that manually. Once again you haven't lost a lot because the conversion is only marginal at best. And if you're going to render in Octane you'll probably need to rework the materials any way.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Shameless plug for Dawn goes here.

Here's how to run a Gen figure in poser without the DSON plugin. Now you will need DS installed but just long enough to export what you need...

In DS load your figure and add all the morphs you're going to use.

File > Export ... Choose CR2 as the format

Save it into a library mapped to Poser

You'll need to make sure all your textures are in that library too.

Open Poser and load the exported figure from Poser's library.

OK now for the bad news. There are several serious issues with this figure. First the scaling is totally hosed. Studio does not export any scaling information. You didn't lose anything over DSON cuz DSON doesn't get it right either. If you need to apply materials you will have to do that manually. Once again you haven't lost a lot because the conversion is only marginal at best. And if you're going to render in Octane you'll probably need to rework the materials any way.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Shameless plug for Dawn goes here.

DO NOT use this method to export genesis figures. This method predates the DSON importer and is the the reason the DSON importer was created. If you follow Joepublics instructions to load the figure with the importer you will get a much better functioning figure and you're able to apply materials from material files (to the UV that you exported that is)  and properly use scaling. Only thing that doesn't work is HD morphs due to the implementation of the Pixar subdivision. Nerd, you gotta do your research on this subject if you're going to do your job properly because you're like two years behind on the importer and a year on Joepublic's method.

EDIT: If you're trying to do cross platform development for Dawn then you could use the exporter to get a cr2 to fix in Poser and adjust the weight maps.

This is a Poser forum after all ... just for myself.  I don't care for the DS interface nor will it run properly on my machine (yes I have asked DAZ about it SEVERAL times and gave up).  Just keep that in mind.  You can use DS, that's fine, but this is Poser's forum. Thanks.  Let's not have a software war.  Please.

Good to hear I'm not the only one that has problems with DS running on my machines. I load it, crash, hit reset, and that's on two different machines.  Same result, win7, 12 gig memory in each, 3.1 and 3.4 ghz quad cores, both intel.  Uninstall, reinstall, same thing again.  Config?  something else?  when I have to hit the reset, no chance to find out what it is.  Oh, well, gave up on that long ago anyhow. Doric

This is a Poser forum after all ... just for myself.  I don't care for the DS interface nor will it run properly on my machine (yes I have asked DAZ about it SEVERAL times and gave up).  Just keep that in mind.  You can use DS, that's fine, but this is Poser's forum. Thanks.  Let's not have a software war.  Please.

Good to hear I'm not the only one that has problems with DS running on my machines. I load it, crash, hit reset, and that's on two different machines.  Same result, win7, 12 gig memory in each, 3.1 and 3.4 ghz quad cores, both intel.  Uninstall, reinstall, same thing again.  Config?  something else?  when I have to hit the reset, no chance to find out what it is.  Oh, well, gave up on that long ago anyhow. Doric

Sounds like a personal issue as a lot more people have it working. I got it working on three PCs (all Intel I7s) and a mac. I have poser working on 2 pcs and the mac. But again, what does this have to do with getting genesis to work in Poser?

Here's how to run a Gen figure in poser without the DSON plugin. Now you will need DS installed but just long enough to export what you need...

In DS load your figure and add all the morphs you're going to use.

File > Export ... Choose CR2 as the format

Save it into a library mapped to Poser

You'll need to make sure all your textures are in that library too.

Open Poser and load the exported figure from Poser's library.

OK now for the bad news. There are several serious issues with this figure. First the scaling is totally hosed. Studio does not export any scaling information. You didn't lose anything over DSON cuz DSON doesn't get it right either. If you need to apply materials you will have to do that manually. Once again you haven't lost a lot because the conversion is only marginal at best. And if you're going to render in Octane you'll probably need to rework the materials any way.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Shameless plug for Dawn goes here.

DO NOT use this method to export genesis figures. This method predates the DSON importer and is the the reason the DSON importer was created. If you follow Joepublics instructions to load the figure with the importer you will get a much better functioning figure and you're able to apply materials from material files (to the UV that you exported that is)  and properly use scaling. Only thing that doesn't work is HD morphs due to the implementation of the Pixar subdivision. Nerd, you gotta do your research on this subject if you're going to do your job properly because you're like two years behind on the importer and a year on Joepublic's method.

EDIT: If you're trying to do cross platform development for Dawn then you could use the exporter to get a cr2 to fix in Poser and adjust the weight maps.

Just presenting a way to do it without DSON for those who have problems with it is Poser. Like I said it's not perfect.

Just to add another confirmation that Genesis 2 works well in Poser - I use Poser almost exclusively (I use DAZ Studio to create Poser companion files for products that don't have them, and to convert textures across UV sets), and I use Genesis 2 (male/female) almost exclusively (I still use Apollo Maximus and James occasionally). The only gripe I have is that geo-grafting don't work in Poser (be aware of this before buying products that use it).

tl;dr: Genesis works REALLY well in Poser, but not geo-grafting.

Sounds like a personal issue as a lot more people have it working. I got it working on three PCs (all Intel I7s) and a mac. I have poser working on 2 pcs and the mac. But again, what does this have to do with getting genesis to work in Poser?

Goodie for you.  However, doesn't do anything for it crashing my machines and eternal frustration isn't my cup of tea.  "If at first you don't succeed, give up.  No sense in being hard headed about it." Doric

P.S. Shameless plug for Dawn goes here.

Ahhhh, yes, this lovely lady, who works in Poser without DSON or any other kludge because she's rigged natively for Poser?

Nerd, you gotta do your research on this subject if you're going to do your job properly because you're like two years behind on the importer and a year on Joepublic's method.

P.S. Just tested it again and using the latest public build of DSON it still doesn't export scaling. It's been broken since DSON was in beta. Still is. If there's a build of DSON that exports correct scaling it's not a public build.

Nerd, you gotta do your research on this subject if you're going to do your job properly because you're like two years behind on the importer and a year on Joepublic's method.

P.S. Just tested it again and using the latest public build of DSON it still doesn't export scaling. It's been broken since DSON was in beta. Still is. If there's a build of DSON that exports correct scaling it's not a public build.

As I said, don't export using this method. It hasn't been worked on because the DSON importer was the replacement for this method. The only value this has is if you're exporting clothing that you are making cross platform for Dawn.. but I think the ship has sailed on support on that figure a year ago.

A good one Male_M3dia, aca Terrance.

Just like  the DAZ ship sailed when they left Poser compatibility some years ago.
See ya, have a safe trip.

A good one Male_M3dia, aca Terrance.

Just like  the DAZ ship sailed when they left Poser compatibility some years ago.
See ya, have a safe trip.

As others have noted in the thread, they've gotten Genesis to work in Poser. Did you have any relevant to add to this thread or are you here just to start the app wars like the forum coordinator said NOT to do? This thread so the OP can get information on how to get Genesis working without the wars that some insists on adding to derail the thread, so let's be fair to your fellow Poser user. EDIT and yes both are my names as I buy content regularly from this site. Would you care to pull receipts to see who actually belongs here and who leaves? I'm quite sure you'll lose that bet.

And I thank you.

I'm seeing this thread rapidly deteriorating because of personal issues with the DAZ importer.  Some individuals have it working successfully, others are having agonizing nightmares.  I would suggest before posting anything, evaluate your response, and if it doesn't have any relevancy to the OP, refrain from posting.  This type of childish mentality only serves to inflame a topic that has locked many other threads before.

The OP's goal is to make V6 work in Poser and eventually render in Octane.

The OP has the following: Poser Pro 2014, DSON, and Octane

I've been using Poser since version 1. I've seen all the bad, the good, the improvements in over a decade. Then came DS (this is pertinent, cuz DSON is kinda related to DS). It had and stiil have issues. judging by all the complains from both sides. Both programs have strengths and weaknesses and both aren't perfect.

I've been using V4 for years, and just recently started to use G2F's in my renders. I have a similar setup with the OP.

From experience, DSON works adequate enough for me get some decent results. It is not perfect, but workable. Genesis 2 via DSON takes a bit longer to load and the whole process increases your workflow.  I notice the OP wants to use Octane to render his scenes. That itself will increase your workflow considerably. Granted that time spent isn't an issue for the OP, I would suggest to give it a swirl and see what kind of results you get.

Speculating what folks here say about shortcomings of softwares will not get you anywhere. I suggests you just roll up your sleeves and try it out.

one side note: set G2F/V6 subd level to 0 before taking it into Octane. Good luck.

Here are two WIPs. Both G2F

DSON>Poser Pro 2014>Octane.

JV

those look great, JV!

p.s.: now we got neologisms like "mansplaining" like in Dilbert, maybe we could add "dazsplaining" to list!

Nerd, you gotta do your research on this subject if you're going to do your job properly because you're like two years behind on the importer and a year on Joepublic's method.

P.S. Just tested it again and using the latest public build of DSON it still doesn't export scaling. It's been broken since DSON was in beta. Still is. If there's a build of DSON that exports correct scaling it's not a public build.

Exactly why should it export scaling, when Poser won't read it correctly anyway? Use the DSON importer, where the scaling is handled for you. Any other method you lose major reasons to use Genesis or Genesis 2 (Male or Female) in the first place.  Unless the Project Manager for Poser (Nerd3D) is going to put DSON file reading on the Poser Roadmap. 

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

DS HD is DAZ proprietary so that's not going to work in Poser with DSON.

Not at all true. HD works just fine using the DSON Importer for Poser. 

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Well, I I did And that was ignored

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Well, I I did And that was ignored

That is an interesting accusation. Reopen it and say I said to reopen it. (Or comment it if it isn't closed.) Note that if it isn't closed, then it isn't ignored either. 

I filed the bug reports in Mantis some 2 years ago shortly after the DSON importer was released.

A half year later most of them had not even been acknowledged and then access to mantis was removed and all issues were gone.

With each subsequent release I tried the DSON importer again and still my main problem remains: If you have a set of morph sets installed and you load multiple figures with clothing and hair, the UI will start to get slow and finally freeze up Poser. At that point you can only kill the app and lose your work what you have not saved. That is the main reason why it is unusable for me

Just a nit-picky note, the Poser plug-in is the DSON Importer. This matters, despite being nit-picky, because people see that "DSON is for Poser" and buy products with only a DSON Core installer (DS-native files) and no Poser CFs thinking that's all that is required (which, with the exception of morph sets with no user-facing files, isn't the case).

I filed the bug reports in Mantis some 2 years ago shortly after the DSON importer was released.

A half year later most of them had not even been acknowledged and then access to mantis was removed and all issues were gone.

With each subsequent release I tried the DSON importer again and still my main problem remains: If you have a set of morph sets installed and you load multiple figures with clothing and hair, the UI will start to get slow and finally freeze up Poser. At that point you can only kill the app and lose your work what you have not saved. That is the main reason why it is unusable for me

That sounds as if you made the report just before DAZ moved to handling bug reports through technical Support. I think the Mantis tickets ar still there, but make a new report (via the Zendesk Contact Us) and tell them Bruce sicced you on to them.

This will probably be my first and last participation in any threads like this - and I only do this tonight because I'm drunk enough :D - - - However, when waiting for a render to finish, reading threads like this is an entertaining pastime: Just to look at how people have a warped look at reality and defend that to the utter is absolutely hilarious. On the other hand, looking at how skilled certain posters are at interpreting the words of others to the opposite is "fascinating" (Copyright "Spock"). At least I know by now who's a respected poster, who's a dud, and who's a DAZ "submarine". So I know whom to take seriously. - - - But please, keep up your endless, futile fights, and continue to entertain me! A Kindergarden is a boring place to watch, compared to these threads :D - - - Carry on, carry on... - - - (and don't waste your time to male a reply to this statement, because I won't reply to them) - - - pp

I filed the bug reports in Mantis some 2 years ago shortly after the DSON importer was released.

A half year later most of them had not even been acknowledged and then access to mantis was removed and all issues were gone.

With each subsequent release I tried the DSON importer again and still my main problem remains: If you have a set of morph sets installed and you load multiple figures with clothing and hair, the UI will start to get slow and finally freeze up Poser. At that point you can only kill the app and lose your work what you have not saved. That is the main reason why it is unusable for me

That sounds as if you made the report just before DAZ moved to handling bug reports through technical Support. I think the Mantis tickets ar still there, but make a new report (via the Zendesk Contact Us) and tell them Bruce sicced you on to them.

Really?  If the tickets are still there, why should ANY user have to file a new report?
At some point, doesn't DAZ have some responsibility for managing the "conversion" they chose to undertake instead of telling customers who took the time to file a bug report, oh, just do it again so we can ignore you one more time?

I filed the bug reports in Mantis some 2 years ago shortly after the DSON importer was released.

A half year later most of them had not even been acknowledged and then access to mantis was removed and all issues were gone.

With each subsequent release I tried the DSON importer again and still my main problem remains: If you have a set of morph sets installed and you load multiple figures with clothing and hair, the UI will start to get slow and finally freeze up Poser. At that point you can only kill the app and lose your work what you have not saved. That is the main reason why it is unusable for me

That sounds as if you made the report just before DAZ moved to handling bug reports through technical Support. I think the Mantis tickets ar still there, but make a new report (via the Zendesk Contact Us) and tell them Bruce sicced you on to them.

Really?  If the tickets are still there, why should ANY user have to file a new report?
At some point, doesn't DAZ have some responsibility for managing the "conversion" they chose to undertake instead of telling customers who took the time to file a bug report, oh, just do it again so we can ignore you one more time?

The transition had to be made, one of the reasons it had to be made was the software being used, to include the inability to move it to another bug tracker. When it was made it was stated that if you had a bug that you wanted to still be able to track, you should refile it under the new system. If you did not refile it under the new system, it would still get looked at, but you would receive no notifications for it. 

You are making accusations with no basis in fact. Bugs that were filed in Mantis were not ignored. In fact, in particular, the above mentioned bug, several speed ups were added to the DSON importer for Poser code, since any Mantis bugs that were filed against speed. 

Currently, I can load Genesis 2 Female to include virtually all of her morphs, into Poser 2014, faster than I can load Victoria 4 and inject Morphs++ in Poser 2014. (And on one machine I have I can load that same Genesis 2 Female faster than I can load Roxie.) Of course I follow my own advice, which I have posted numerous times both here and at RDNA as to how to set up your content. YMMV, depending on hardware, and definitely dependent on how you have your content installed. 

One other point, note that there is a major speed up the Second and subsequent times you load a Tri-Ax Figure after installing new morphs. (It has to build the cache the first time you load it.) Note that is installing new content dependent, not closing Poser and opening Poser, the cache survives that. 

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Well, I I did And that was ignored

Me too.  I filed a report two years ago on the Limits issue with Genesis 1, which is now also in Genesis 2, and nothing was ever done.  Here is the bug, but my browser won't let me connect to the site : Connection Untrusted error....
https://bugs.daz3d.com/view.php?id=49954

Some discussion...

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/52819/

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Perfectly honest, I never have.  Nor have I ever filed bug reports on any freeware program.  There are two possibilities, A, it works.  B, it don't work.  If A, and it's of use, use it.  If B, give up and dump it. 

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Well, I I did And that was ignored

Me too.  I filed a report two years ago on the Limits issue with Genesis 1, which is now also in Genesis 2, and nothing was ever done.  Here is the bug, but my browser won't let me connect to the site : Connection Untrusted error....
https://bugs.daz3d.com/view.php?id=49954

Some discussion...

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/52819/

Yes, you get no connection to that address. What part of "When it was made it was stated that if you had a bug that you wanted to still be able to track, you should refile it under the new system. If you did not refile it under the new system, it would still get looked at, but you would receive no notifications for it." is so difficult to understand? Just because you have not received a notification, does not mean it has been ignored, it means that you aren't going to get notifications because you didn't refile it. Just because it hasn't been fixed, also does not mean it has been ignored, just not fixed. 

Maybe the new Project Manager for Poser should make sure improving Poser's API is on the roadmap. :) 

Here is a thought, lets stick to helping the OP do what they want to do.

There is no need to go a thousand other directions, because none of that will help the op a bit.

Can you get Genesis into Poser? Yes you can. Links to very detailed instructions have been posted. Alternate ways have been suggested.

Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one of those, we don't need to constantly see it in every thread asking an honest question about how to do something.

If the OP has more questions about it, it would be nice to be able to post in the thread they started before it gets locked due to the same old crap.

This is a forum for asking questions and learning. Not a place to constantly derail threads with totally unrelated bullshit.

Leave the ego's at the door, and stick to the thread. If you want to argue Mantis reports start your own thread in the relevant forum.

Thanks.

Yes, you get no connection to that address. What part of "When it was made it was stated that if you had a bug that you wanted to still be able to track, you should refile it under the new system. If you did not refile it under the new system, it would still get looked at, but you would receive no notifications for it." is so difficult to understand? 

Bruce, that's a HELL of a way to talk to a customer!   I never received any notification that anything had changed. 
I routinely use DSON, and I specifically answered the OP's question a page ago.    Did you take rabble-rousing lessons from Randall Lloyd?  ;)

Yes, you get no connection to that address. What part of "When it was made it was stated that if you had a bug that you wanted to still be able to track, you should refile it under the new system. If you did not refile it under the new system, it would still get looked at, but you would receive no notifications for it." is so difficult to understand? 

Bruce, that's a HELL of a way to talk to a customer!   I never received any notification that anything had changed. 
I routinely use DSON, and I specifically answered the OP's question a page ago.    Did you take rabble-rousing lessons from Randall Lloyd?  ;)

It has been explained dozens of times in threads you were active in, to include this one. My post was made more than 30 minutes before yours, Richard's a couple of hours before that. I never said you did not answer the OP's question.  If I misinterpreted your claim that you were ignored, especially after the explanation, because I took it as someone is not doing their job, then I apologize  for the misinterpretation. 

I apparently didn't refresh the thread before I posted, as the explanation was not there, so apology accepted. :)

However, this was the first I've heard from anyone from DAZ that their had been any change in the bug reporting, and I had noted over at DAZ that the bug link no longer worked.  As far as notifications in general, that has long been an issue at DAZ.  I never get notifications of subversion updates to Studio, going back to 4.0 (I do get the point version notices), and the thread in the Poser forum their regarding the DSON importer is still entitled "DSON Importer for Poser 1.1.3.50 General Release, Now Available!", even though 1.2.0.12 has been out for about two months. (So update your DSON Importer, folks!)

As I noted over at DAZ, the Limits bug report is two years old, and has propagated to Genesis 2.  I fix it manually when it is a problem, as I noted.

This is not intended to be a flame, but feedback from a  customer who is mostly satisfied, but is sometimes not....

PS: a note to Male_M3dia; I sent you a site mail here about someone over at the DAZ Poser Forum who is having issues with one of your products...

Funny thing, for all these complaints that people are making here about the DSON Importer for Poser, how many of you have filed bugs for this plug-in? 

Well, I I did And that was ignored

Me too.  I filed a report two years ago on the Limits issue with Genesis 1, which is now also in Genesis 2, and nothing was ever done.  Here is the bug, but my browser won't let me connect to the site : Connection Untrusted error....
https://bugs.daz3d.com/view.php?id=49954

Some discussion...

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/52819/

Yes, you get no connection to that address. What part of "When it was made it was stated that if you had a bug that you wanted to still be able to track, you should refile it under the new system. If you did not refile it under the new system, it would still get looked at, but you would receive no notifications for it." is so difficult to understand? Just because you have not received a notification, does not mean it has been ignored, it means that you aren't going to get notifications because you didn't refile it. Just because it hasn't been fixed, also does not mean it has been ignored, just not fixed. 

I swear I spit my drink out when I read this reply, it was so damn funny. "We didn't ignore you, we just didn't fix it." ROFL