greetings

working on a new series...or...trying to work on a new series of early man

i have a few really nice textures and morphs i picked up at philosophers egg for M4

and adopted morphs and textures for a female version

now trying to track down some tools and accessories

here is a short list:

-3 prong fishing spear rough looking

-shoulder and neck sling to carry a child around 9looks like a hammock that slings over shoulder and around neck bringing the child to front of mother

-scraping and cutting/grinding flint or obsideon tools and awls, and base stones or wood bowls

-textures of flecked flint to put on some of the props i already have found

There are a whole lot of cool clothes and weapons, tents and huts out there but not as realistic looking as i would like because of bad texturing I will be trying to re-texture my own but will need better textures to do that. I am searching but if anyone here knows of any good ones or a site many are already cozied away on would appreciate the addie.

-dugout log canoe

-wheat or grain stalks

-dead game i can put on a stick over fire or bits of meat or fish with bone showing. I am so surprised that with all the cool animals for poser noone has made a skinned or plucked version for cooking over an open fire. I tried using an older turkey dinner on a spit and though i thought it was a cool idea it did not look as realistic once set up. a fat turkey just doesn't look anything like quail or wilder small game bird.  :(

-fire pits and irregular burning sticks i can use as torches

-caves  though i have a few nice ones can't get enough caves especially for painting cave art onto

-pouches, bags, water shins and other leather products to sling over a shoulder or adding onto pack animals. I have a few pack carriers for horses and a real nice travois just need more fairly realistic containers and rolled furs etc i can add to it.

-dog harness to pull travois or add packs to

-head or shoulder harness for humans to carry stuff with. there is one image i have had in my picture files since i was a kid of a neolithic woman in fur skirt, bare breasted long stringy hair, holding a child's hand trudging along a trail on a hill rolling plains behind then, with a head harness strapped to her head, bent over with the weight of the burden she is carrying on her back in the harness.

Anything else of similar ilk you might know of would be appreciated.

thanks for stopping by and for any help you can provide.

shante

http://www.sharecg.com/v/76601/gallery/11/Poser/Baby-Sling-for-V4-M4-and-the-Poser-4-Infant Here is a baby sling. I don't know if it is what you're looking for but it might work.

LOL

Laughed my arse off when i saw that product image. the freaking baby has a head bigger than daddies.

poor vickie must have gone through delivery hell pushing that monster out.

But, thanks for the lead. Though i am not too familiar with working with dynamic cloth i will try messing with this.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/wigwam/93674/

Stone knife,axe,spear.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/primitive-weapons/29122/

I really think you would save time by downloading a copy of Wings3D and having a go at making this stuff. There couldn't be a better first project than crude sticks and stones. Even if it takes an hour to figure out how to make a stone or a pointy stick, after an hour you'll have a pointy stick and an hour of modelling experience. Then the the plucked bird is a not-too-difficult next step, and before you know it you'll be making anything you need.

Wings has all the tools you need for a project like this and it is easy to learn: Start with a primitive and bash it into the shape you want. All the tools are in right-click context menus, so it only offers you tools appropriate to your current selection (rather than bewildering you with all the tools all the time). While a tool is active it gives you hints at the bottom of the screen. It has pretty good UV mapping tools too.

Be careful with your neolithic chronology.  Styles of tools, weapons, habitats, and animal domestication span thousands of years and differ in many locations.  For example, dogs were domesticated between 30,000 BC and 15,000 BC around Eurasia.  And we are talking near relatives of wolves.  Horses around 4000 BC also throughout Eurasia.  Donkeys domesticated in Egypt 5000 BC.

Modern man appeared approximately 500,000 years, although there may evidence of earlier ancestors which may have interacted with Neanderthals.

Absolutely what obm890 said...

Anyway

http://www.sharecg.com/v/65132/gallery/5/3D-Model/Stoneage-Weapons-as-OBJ

Be careful with your neolithic chronology.  Styles of tools, weapons, habitats, and animal domestication span thousands of years and differ in many locations.  For example, dogs were domesticated between 30,000 BC and 15,000 BC around Eurasia.  And we are talking near relatives of wolves.  Horses around 4000 BC also throughout Eurasia.  Donkeys domesticated in Egypt 5000 BC.

Modern man appeared approximately 500,000 years, although there may evidence of earlier ancestors which may have interacted with Neanderthals.

HaHa!

You are right f course. Wasn't really planning on making this an historical treatise!

Interesting how interests flow in the Poser-verse.

As much as I have always loved ancient history (up until the Renaissance period or so) there is always something new being discovered so it is always in flux. I just find it all fascinating and no matter how many films I have seen on the times, from Discovery Channel or Nat Geo and of course Hollywood  none of them leave me feeling that whoever created them knew too damn much about what they were recording. Yeah they were only supposed to be giving a surface enlightenment....or, yeah......they were only entertainment and really cheesy and left me anyway, with a feeling of disbelief anyone could have been so lame as to meticulously clean up the figures or try obsessively to keep them from showing a breast or male appendage (though Quest for Fire with Ron Pearlman as the horny, dorky guy in furs and fleas  and the cute Rae Dawn Chong running around buck nekkid covered most of the time in nothing but gray clay was really pretty good at letting that all seem more natural), I would love to see some more contemporary attempts at this genre that has a bit more meat on its bones.

What was the last one "10 million BC" with the Sabretooth Tiger encounter with man or the sexy fur-bedecked Raquel Welch version years ago of similar title, more 'prudish' tit-ilation tease than story or "Clan of the Cave Bear" with the then skinny and unbelievable blonde Daryl Hannah (which was taken from a set of books which were pretty good and better than the film).

There were several European films also offered years ago which are impossible to find and definitely not on Netflix like "When Women Lost Their Tails" or "CroMagnon" I believe it was called. Like their Spaghetti Westerns, Less neatsy-poo and certainly offering more credible skin and dirt and sweat but realistic?  Not sure.

But as I said it is only supposed to be entertainment and being an amateur 3d picture maker (though it would be easier, I don't use the term "Artist" anymore despite my advanced degrees and training and years burdened by the starving profession) and even ranker Poser user, creating images for entertainment is the best I can hope for. I guess historically accuracy is not quite what I am going for as much as anything that does not smack of "Modern" times. Pre Bronze, Pre Copper, Pre Iron and Pre steel is fair game for this project. Stone, skin, horn and wood being the oldest materials  used to make implements tools and weapons, I gravitate to that most of all.

So getting my timeline crossed and murkied up is going to happen.....somewhat.  But thanks for the reminder. It is cool being reminded there are others out there who do know what they know. I just wish they/you would offer your services to the film industry to get their "entertainment" flack closer to "RIGHT".

I did know about the dogs/wolves domestication as I knew the horse was a pony and hunted for food long before it was used to ride off into the sunset. Plains Indians for example used harnessed dogs to pull stuff which is why I was looking for stuff for dogs/wolves in my list.

Thanks for commenting and sorry I got long winded.  ;)

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/wigwam/93674/

Stone knife,axe,spear.

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/primitive-weapons/29122/

The WigWam is nice. put it in my wish list. I picked up the whole Native American set fro DAZ for the Mil4 figures and kids and have been finding prehistoric stone weapons and tools anywhere I could find them including fantasy apocolyptical stuff. Great textures for V4 & M4 here and DAZ and RDNA too. Got a few pieces from Content Paradise but everything good costs money and being in a forced retirement that is getting rediculously endeavor to pursue so FREE is now for me. I think I have picked most of the free offerings and quite a few of the store items too to get started. Having been obsessively downloading and archiving Poser and related content since i joined this circus upon the release of Poser 4, I have some stuff that isn't even out there anymore.  :P

Those Primitive weapons are nice too and though there are a lot of post stone age items that span the time and cultural divides, the stone items in the set are beautiful. Into my Wish List they go until a big sale puts them into reach.

I picked up the whole Ooga set and a few others here and RDNA which offer textures and furs and weapons and am looking forward to using them.

Thanks for the input.

I really think you would save time by downloading a copy of Wings3D and having a go at making this stuff. There couldn't be a better first project than crude sticks and stones. Even if it takes an hour to figure out how to make a stone or a pointy stick, after an hour you'll have a pointy stick and an hour of modelling experience. Then the the plucked bird is a not-too-difficult next step, and before you know it you'll be making anything you need.

Wings has all the tools you need for a project like this and it is easy to learn: Start with a primitive and bash it into the shape you want. All the tools are in right-click context menus, so it only offers you tools appropriate to your current selection (rather than bewildering you with all the tools all the time). While a tool is active it gives you hints at the bottom of the screen. It has pretty good UV mapping tools too.

You are right of course if this was told to someone with a hunger and ABILITY to learn. Unfortunately I was never a fast learner when younger and in possession of more flexible brain matter. I actually took two 5 week coursed in RayDream. Was the hottest lower cost 3D app then. Unfortunately I was the slowest learner in the class setting everyone back asking the same questions over  and over from lack of GRASP of concepts. Oh, I passed the class, or rather got my stupid certificate showing the government I did so they would pay for it, moved on, though I would have failed in a more official academic environment. But, the worst lesson I got from that is none of this technology learning is for me.

Now older and even less flexible, stress is not something I can handle more than ever I really have to avoid. Trying to learn something that does not come easy causes me frustration, anger and stress. Not being fun pass-time if stressful, which is what Poser was originally meant to be for me, I just avoid it. Can't afford the stress.

Always having had problems with names, dates, numbers and timelines/sequences, the fundamental necessities for learning stuff like this, I just can't wrap my head around it all. You can't imagine how freaking hard it has been trying to use even Poser. From P4 to my current PP2014 I have actually not learned most of the most desired functions:  Cloth room, magnets and morph tools, advanced Materials room functions, morph transfers, Face Room,  Animation..........get the picture.

So, though I appreciate your valuable advice and could add Wings3D to my existing collection of other 3D apps like Carrara and Hexagon and Bryce (which I have never used, getting anxiety attacks just contemplating it!) I am going to just keep it on the low and easy beg, borrow, steal or buy what I need from whatever I can find out there or beg others with more flexible curious  creative minds to make for me.

So, off to take my sedatives!  :)

Have another prop I need to find for this project.

A Venus fertility icon like this:

There are so many versions from so many periods I didn't have time to find the exact one i would like to duplicate but will sttle for whatever i can find.