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Subject: Gallery changes feedback


CleonXXI ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:29 PM ยท edited Mon, 04 November 2024 at 5:10 PM

Recognizing that the new is always controversial, and that people like myself staid in their old habits dislike changing them, I would still like to point out my main issue with the new gallery system: It is less functional than the old one. Before, one could search specific times of posting for every imaginable identifying factor in the galleries. It may be that one can still do this, but it isn't intuitively clear to me as to how it would be done. I liked the old system for image searching much better than the new one.


KimberlyC ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:44 PM

Thank you for your input! I will be looking into the search. :)



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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:46 PM

Everything can be gotten used to in the Gallery changes except the Upload Limits, they're just wrong for digital art


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cosmo71 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:48 PM ยท edited Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:50 PM

@4220449

what about the new image size restrictions? Tell me one reason for this.

Undo the new image size restritions and the thumbnail thing and everything is okay. If not I will not upload more images here and if I buy new stuff at your store I am not sure. I do not like to buy stuff at a company that gives one a slap in the face.


cosmo71 ( ) posted Tue, 18 August 2015 at 1:50 PM


JohnDelaquiox ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 11:02 AM

I have not posted an image to the gallery here in over a year because I got sick of all of the limitations. Do you know how hard it is to shrink an image from 5 megs to 512 k without losing its integrity? Now the Gallery has Infinite Scroll. That means I will no longer even visit the gallery.

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tiggersprings ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 11:52 AM

Wow... The new gallery is um... Interesting. Can it please be changed in at least one respect... If we mess up when posting a pic based on the new rules, it seems we have to start all over, rather than use the browser back button. This may well keep me from posting a lot here. And let's face it, when people post their art with Renderosity products, it's advertising for Renderosity... Many people often buy the things they see in gallery pics.


ptousig ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 1:06 PM
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Agreed. There have definitely been cases where having renders in the gallery convinced me to buy something when the vendor's own renders left me unsure I liked it enough.

On that basis alone, I'd recommend not dissuading folks from posting gallery images. (Presumably, unintentional dissuasion, but still.)


A_Joker_B ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 2:08 PM ยท edited Wed, 19 August 2015 at 2:11 PM

When I saw that there was going to be website overhaul I was personally excited. Having seen website updates in Render over the years the changes made have certainly been incremental but the underlying layout/information available and usabilty was the same - consistency was appreciated. So with this revamp I'm thinking not only will they do away with limitations but there will be more features, customization etc etc. So after seeing the 'big' changes in effect here's my take on them:

  • Gallery presentation. The way images are presented works great for the likes of tumbler and other sites but for the presention of images for an artist there's something to be said about uniformity and easy on the eye. If someone chooses to post a series of different sized images in a particular sequence it is very hard for the eye to follow this sequence.

  • Reduced Image size limitations (biggest grievance). I am truly astonished that someone would actually OK this, especially as someone else aptly put it, how can you sell a product when you can't assess the quality and detail? Personally for me this change does not take into consideration panoramic formats of which majority of my works are. I struggled with the old limitations but these put a further shackle on the quality that I can post.

  • Removal of Auto-thumbnail generation. Do you know how much time this saved when it was implimented? I refused to use it initally, but once I did use it, that was time saved where I wasn't having to create another image. Uploaded one image, done.

  • Lack of Statistics/Information. Simple imformation like how many posts one has made allows one to maybe prepare something special for a milestone number.

Ultimately alot of the issues I have and many others have is that somethings were fine as they were. Change is good, but would it have been hard to offer it as an option? How about this, offer the changes as a choice befitting the artist: A crowded gallery or a uniform gallery?, More image info or less image info? Etc etc.

I truly hope concerns listened to and in the least allow us a choice?


JohnDelaquiox ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 3:31 PM

I've been a member of the site since around 2006.The one thing I have learned is. Renderosity does not care what any of us have to say. As long as the site continues to generate money, they will continue to run it what ever way they see fit with complete and utter disregard for the community. Even if that means running it into the ground, Which is what they have been doing. This site went from being the best to being thee very worst of digital content sites.

This site has lost some of its best artist, artist who do promotional work for the vendors exclusively. Its lost some of their best members and vendors. The few big vendors they have left, many of them no longer have exclusivity to Renderosity. Off the top of my head I can name at least five other digital content sites that I prefer over Renderosity.


123frogman ( ) posted Wed, 19 August 2015 at 4:10 PM

I would like to be able to turn the page and not wat for the scrolling to finish, it tacks too long. Can you put the page system back? Or at least allow us to turn the pages ourselves? Thanks


DocMikeB ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2015 at 7:37 AM

Renderosity is dead... Flickrosity is born... and - sorry if I am blunt - I don't like it.
Another (once) beautiful site killed by this insane smartphone-frenzy. It's likely that many of the old members (PC users) will leave.
Goodbye and good luck with the new & future members belonging to the crowd that enjoys to tap all the day those tiny 3" x 3" screens.


JohnDelaquiox ( ) posted Thu, 20 August 2015 at 4:17 PM

Per usual, the layout is also inconsistent. When you browse a members gallery it uses the page system while the main page and searches still use infinite scroll which I hate.


tiggersprings ( ) posted Mon, 24 August 2015 at 5:55 PM

Gallery credits sill aren't working right. I had only credited one vendor, went to credit Danie for Metal World... And got "Loading Failed" again. This really is an issue, because people are going to quit trying to credit vendors. rendoloadingcreditsfails.jpg


tiggersprings ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2015 at 12:35 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 August 2015 at 12:35 PM

Citing my "Loading Failed" directly above. Even worse now... I just uploaded a pic and couldn't add a single image credit for products used that came directly here from Renderosity. This really should be a matter of concern, because as already stated, people sometimes buy based things they see credited for images.

Additionally, as a customer, when I clicked on "Gallery" tab of several product pages this morning, there were no images showing (in cases where I know there should have been).

Am I the only one that preferred, as a gallery-using customer (not as a vendor), the text-link list on credits? The new thumbnail system looks like a bunch of ads (and someone I know said as much). She was like, "Why are there a bunch of ads on your picture?" I looked and realized she was confusing ads with the credits list...


hopeandlove ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2015 at 12:44 PM

Hey @tiggersprings-- It seems that when the system cannot find the type of vendor products, it says, "loading failed." This might be a dumb question, but you're sure the vendor and vendor product matches correct?

Hope Kumor

Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine


tiggersprings ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2015 at 2:38 PM ยท edited Tue, 25 August 2015 at 2:38 PM

I really don't understand what you mean... This morning, it wouldn't let me put anything at all there. On the very first attempt to credit someone's product, it started saying "Loading Failed."

I wasn't trying to credit my own stuff, if that's what you mean...

So, here's the pic I was posting and was trying to add credits for:

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/lovely-laschae/2638543

Of the Renderosity products (that are still actively available), the credits should have looked something like this:

Fabiana - Eternal Kyra
Fabiana - Warm & Soul Lights
Ilona - Emotional Layers
ironman13 - Real Details
Lilflame - Extra Large Earrings

The form wouldn't accept a single credit at all from above. The minute I tried to credit the first vendor, I got "Loading Failed."

If it matters, I'm using Firefox 40.0.2.


hopeandlove ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2015 at 2:48 PM

Please try using Chrome and let me know what happens.

Thanks!

When I tried using Chrome, it worked for me. View my screenshot below:

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Hope Kumor

Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine


tiggersprings ( ) posted Tue, 25 August 2015 at 3:15 PM

I don't have another pic ready to upload. I'm not sure I'll have one today. I really don't use Chrome on a day-to-day basis, though.


tiggersprings ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 10:55 AM

Hope, I tried uploading in Chrome ( 44.0.2403.157). I could add credit until I got to the fourth one, then got "Loading Failed). However, when I pressed the button to submit, I just got a white page, with no error. And it did not look like my image posted.

Retried in Firefox (40.0.2), and still got the "Loading Failed" on credits when I tried adding a third credit, but submission went through at least twice...

The whole site is very, very slow in Chrome 44.0.2403.157 and we have a very fast broadband connection. Firefox is my browser of choice, so i hope that the programmers aren't concentrating on Chrome entirely for compatibility.

Please also consider doing away with the infinited scrolling in the gallery pages. It keeps making both browsers hang up.


A_Joker_B ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 4:17 PM

I have noticed that the thumbnails in the Marketplace now present in a nice orderly uniform sizes which makes viewing alot more easier on the eye. When will this format be available/transferred to artists gallery thumbnails?? - I dislike the messy presentation with a passion, the eye just goes everywhere.


hopeandlove ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 5:00 PM

Hi @A_Joker_B-- Please see the thread that talks about the new image sizes below:

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2893261

The thumbnail is optional now and "will be automatically generated on upload if left blank." The gallery stats are a combination of products, free stuff, and gallery stats. As for the gallery concern, we appreciate your feedback and will take it into consideration.

@Tiggersprings-- Let me look into why when you wanted to add a 4th credit, it failed. Thanks so much for letting us know!

Hope Kumor

Editor-in-chief of Renderosity Magazine


A_Joker_B ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 5:21 PM

Sorry Hope, I just want to clarify something as I don't think my last question was answered.

Seeing that automatic thumbnails are now turned on, does this mean that the thumbnail generated will have the same size irrespective of the actual image itself? So say if I posted 4 images of different sizes, the automatic thumbnails generated will all present in a unform line just like they did before the upgrade?

If yes, then will there be some automatic update of the existing thumbnails as I do not think manually re-autothumbnailing every image in my gallery is acceptable.

If no, then I ask again, seeing at the Marketplace seems to have images displayed with uniform thumbnails, when will this be coming to artist galleries? (IMHO If it can be done with Marketplace, then it can be done with other peoples galleries).


Giana ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 6:01 PM

yes!! uniform thumbnail sizes would go a LONG way to improving the galleries... much much easier on the eyes, and in some cases, the wellness factor for those who might have physical issues that involve eyes/eyesight/etc.


bwsupport ( ) posted Wed, 26 August 2015 at 11:33 PM
Site Admin

@everyone I've made a few more tweaks to the galleries, for clarification on all the updates check out this thread


tiggersprings ( ) posted Fri, 28 August 2015 at 4:49 PM ยท edited Fri, 28 August 2015 at 4:51 PM

Is there a limit on how many Renderosity products we can now credit?

I made it to six, but gone one wrong (chose wrong product). Went back to fix it. So, I removed number six and... Now I cannot go any further, because I get the loading failed message.

I also had several other currently active products from the marketplace to credit. sigh

II use Firefox 40.0.2.


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